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Old 20-09-2016, 11:26
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Lol!!! Not sure which is the biggest shock, me being right about design or Anna Windass wearing a £25 pinny to work in a greasy spoon!!
The latter. But well spotted!!!

And why does Todd have Phelan's number programmed into his phone?

In the cafe it looked like Cathy was counting the takings, so why was it obvious the paper was only printed on one side?
Really?!!! Must take another look.

To be fair they are on show so often, that he probably doesn't bother anymore.
I'm surprised they don't get a mention in the cast credits!!

yes he is, but it's a
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Old 20-09-2016, 11:42
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People were saying Roy wouldn't get into another relationship after Hayley died. I am saying he might.

You were saying that you see no chemistry or believability in the Roy/Cathy relationship, which is down to bad writing/poor choice of actress. That has nothing to do with whether or not Roy would love another woman.

I like Melanie Hill and I think she does her best with the crapola she's given to work with but the whole Roy/Cathy relationship has been poorly conceived and badly executed - from their original meeting at the long forgotten allotment, to her hoarding problem and her lovely house, which is presumably still out there in the burbs.

They (and 95% of all the 'couples' on the Street) have had no meaningful dialogue together to make us buy into their romance or whatever it's supposed to be.

Sally & Tim are just about believable if they resist going too far down the comedic route, Jack & Vera they are not. As for the rest .....

Michelle & Steve
Fizz & Tyrone
Kevin & Anna
Aiden & Eva
Beth & Kirk
Ches & Sinead
Nazirs Senior
Zeedan & Rana
Gandy & Steph
Todd & Billy
Nick & Leanne (again)
Dev & Erica
Eileen & Pat
Johnny & Jenny

NOTHING, NIL, NONE, ZILCH, ZERO
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Old 20-09-2016, 13:26
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I don't think Corrie have had a new believable couple since Peter and Carla.
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Old 20-09-2016, 19:57
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He's going to secure a mortgage on his minimum wage couple of hours in the cafe earnings obviously.

Why is Cathy so desperate for him to even have that flat? If she wants him to live by himself why doesn't she suggest he move in to her old EMPTY house.

And why would he even think to ask Roy first? Thanks for letting me kip on your sofa, after I've only known you a few months ...... now can I have 15k?

And Cathy works with Anna day in day out. She would know at least some of Anna's history with Phelon and she trusts her enough to discuss her bedroom arrangements with her. Surely Cathy would take Anna's word over Eileen's.
This scenario is dotty. Cathy fired with a great sense of urgency over a flat that hasn't gone beyond the stage of planning permission for her nephew who obviously could never afford to buy a new flat of any kind on what he earns. It would be unkind to allow Alex to believe that he has a chance to get this flat, hypothetical as it is.
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Old 20-09-2016, 21:47
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This scenario is dotty. Cathy fired with a great sense of urgency over a flat that hasn't gone beyond the stage of planning permission for her nephew who obviously could never afford to buy a new flat of any kind on what he earns. It would be unkind to allow Alex to believe that he has a chance to get this flat, hypothetical as it is.
they are just using alex to show how bad phelan is to con a man with a learning difficult
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Old 20-09-2016, 22:42
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So where did the money come from to finance the fully kitted out Portacabins?

Surely they wouldn't have been ready and delivered in that time scale?
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Old 20-09-2016, 23:41
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My car locks itself if the key's out of the ignition for 5 minutes.
So does mine, but I still wouldn't just walk off and not bother to lock it.

It has to be left unlocked so that the security can take it back to the Granada secure compound, ready for its next appearance. Next year?
... so true.
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Old 21-09-2016, 04:51
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It's not that unusual for people in relationships to have each other's PIN. Although, it's usually for people in longer relationships than Billy and Todd.
Really?
Blimey, is there any privacy at all in relationships these days?! To me, wanting to know your partner's PIN suggests trust issues and I'd be highly insulted if mine demanded to know my PIN.
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Old 21-09-2016, 08:56
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they are just using alex to show how bad phelan is to con a man with a learning difficult
They have probably realised that viewers don't have much sympathy for Phalan's other victims so have gone for the sympathy for a victim with learning difficulties angle this time around to try and change that.
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Old 21-09-2016, 09:29
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This scenario is dotty. Cathy fired with a great sense of urgency over a flat that hasn't gone beyond the stage of planning permission for her nephew who obviously could never afford to buy a new flat of any kind on what he earns. It would be unkind to allow Alex to believe that he has a chance to get this flat, hypothetical as it is.
I'm no expert, but would people hand over a £15k deposit for a flat on which construction hasn't even started yet? Wouldn't the process need to be further down the line? All Phelan has is planning permission for a theoretical development of apartments.
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Old 21-09-2016, 09:39
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Really?
Blimey, is there any privacy at all in relationships these days?! To me, wanting to know your partner's PIN suggests trust issues and I'd be highly insulted if mine demanded to know my PIN.
Don't have my phoned locked. Neither does my husband. There's nothing on either that needs to be kept secret. We also know each others passwords for everything.

I assume that when you do set a PIN, you have to enter that before you can answer a call, although I don't know because I don't do it. You never see anyone in Corrie doing that.
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Old 21-09-2016, 09:40
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Really?
Blimey, is there any privacy at all in relationships these days?! To me, wanting to know your partner's PIN suggests trust issues and I'd be highly insulted if mine demanded to know my PIN.
We know each other's PIN, not because either of us has 'demanded' it but because there have been numerous occasions during the time we have been together where on of us has been going to the cashpoint and the other has said something like 'draw me some money while you're there'.

We know each other's main computer passwords too, just through paying for stuff like holidays on whoever's card has money on it. We can both be open because we have nothing to hide, and don't think we'd steal from each other.

It doesn't indicate trust issues at all, quite the opposite, although I'd also have no problem with anyone thinking that these things should be totally secret because that's the official advice and I can see that it's entirely sensible. It's just that in the day to day practicalities of living together, these things have gradually become things that are 'couple' rather than 'individual' things.

Billy & Todd though - far too soon.
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Old 21-09-2016, 09:47
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All this talk of PIN numbers for phones, did either Sean or Billy actually enter a PIN on Todd's phone from what I saw it didn't look like they did, which suggests that the phone was not locked so didn't require a PIN to access it.
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Old 21-09-2016, 10:04
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I'm no expert, but would people hand over a £15k deposit for a flat on which construction hasn't even started yet? Wouldn't the process need to be further down the line? All Phelan has is planning permission for a theoretical development of apartments.
It's not unknown where punters buy off-plan and unseen, but more likely when it's a super-super swanky development, and when money has to be got out of (e.g.) Ruritania fairly pronto, if not quicker. Those are the sort of people who can afford to tie up their money and wait for a couple of years. But then again, "due diligence" is carried out first, as opposed to what seems to be happening here.

I've just caught up after two weeks away: if Caz is looking for a job, i see that there are four pages of them in the Gazette.
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Old 21-09-2016, 10:22
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I assume that when you do set a PIN, you have to enter that before you can answer a call, although I don't know because I don't do it. You never see anyone in Corrie doing that.
No, you can answer a call without entering the PIN.

You can also call the emergency services without a PIN.
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Old 21-09-2016, 10:46
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They have probably realised that viewers don't have much sympathy for Phalan's other victims so have gone for the sympathy for a victim with learning difficulties angle this time around to try and change that.
That's a very good point and Corrie will expect us to feel sympathy for Alex; a person with learning difficulties.

The only trouble is; I won't feel sympathy for him or Cathy who is likely to go off on one when the dastardly plan is revealed. Even with a learning difficulty Alex is not likeable and neither is Cathy. She's a user as she expected Roy to stump up a large deposit for the flat.
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Old 21-09-2016, 10:52
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It's not unknown where punters buy off-plan and unseen, but more likely when it's a super-super swanky development, and when money has to be got out of (e.g.) Ruritania fairly pronto, if not quicker. Those are the sort of people who can afford to tie up their money and wait for a couple of years. But then again, "due diligence" is carried out first, as opposed to what seems to be happening here.

I've just caught up after two weeks away: if Caz is looking for a job, i see that there are four pages of them in the Gazette.
Caz - the only woman on the street who can't find a job within a few metres of her front door!

Mind you, she'd have those yappy little bitches; Sophie and Kate snapping at her ankles if she did.
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Old 21-09-2016, 12:33
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Don't have my phoned locked. Neither does my husband. There's nothing on either that needs to be kept secret. We also know each others passwords for everything.
I presume its not a smartphone, then, with access to emails, etc? If it is that is fairly careless/dangerous. It is recommended to PIN-protect a phone especially a smartphone.


I assume that when you do set a PIN, you have to enter that before you can answer a call, although I don't know because I don't do it. You never see anyone in Corrie doing that.
No, you don't need to enter a PIN to answer a call.
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Old 21-09-2016, 13:54
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Alex won't be the only local that Phelan fleeces. I suppose for maximum impact they will have Roy agree to pay his deposit. That cowsey wowsey Cathy will work on him and Roy will agree. I really hope this leads to the end of her and her nephew. Can't stand either of them.

When it all finally comes out, and Eileen finds out Todd knew all along, she will no doubt kick him out, say she wants nowt to do with him..........blah blah blah.............then a few months later .......rinse and repeat....... she'll say family is so important..........blah blah blah.............and forgive him and take him back in. There'll be no long term consequences for him at all.

It's soooooooo pathetically predictable............. predictably pathetic.
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Old 21-09-2016, 13:55
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I presume its not a smartphone, then, with access to emails, etc? If it is that is fairly careless/dangerous. It is recommended to PIN-protect a phone especially a smartphone.



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I assume you mean for protection in general, rather than to hide them from one's other half?

Re phelan and the police - so did they actually come about the flats, or did todd just say he was worried about his mum?
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Old 21-09-2016, 14:39
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Don't have my phoned locked. Neither does my husband. There's nothing on either that needs to be kept secret. We also know each others passwords for everything.

I assume that when you do set a PIN, you have to enter that before you can answer a call, although I don't know because I don't do it. You never see anyone in Corrie doing that.
But one would hope that you and your husband are not like Todd!
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Old 21-09-2016, 14:41
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All this talk of PIN numbers for phones, did either Sean or Billy actually enter a PIN on Todd's phone from what I saw it didn't look like they did, which suggests that the phone was not locked so didn't require a PIN to access it.
That was the whole original point, they didn't, so no PIN was required to access it. Which was a purely contrived plot device, as it is a massive SOR that Todd wouldn't have a PIN on his phone.
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Old 21-09-2016, 14:45
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That's a very good point and Corrie will expect us to feel sympathy for Alex; a person with learning difficulties.

The only trouble is; I won't feel sympathy for him or Cathy who is likely to go off on one when the dastardly plan is revealed. Even with a learning difficulty Alex is not likeable and neither is Cathy. She's a user as she expected Roy to stump up a large deposit for the flat.
I know it's dangerous ground to criticise an actor with a learning disability but the problem with the Alex actor is that he simply can't act.
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Old 21-09-2016, 15:19
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they are just using alex to show how bad phelan is to con a man with a learning difficult
Don't have any concerns for Alex.
Alex is a bag man for Phelan. Most likely on a good commission and a percentage of the take. When every dime is extracted from every pocket possible they'll fold it like a cheap suit. Alex will have his own condo in Florida with an ocean view. It's what Phelan would want for him.
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Old 21-09-2016, 16:22
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I'm no expert, but would people hand over a £15k deposit for a flat on which construction hasn't even started yet? Wouldn't the process need to be further down the line? All Phelan has is planning permission for a theoretical development of apartments.
Earlier in the process didn't Alex say that he and his friends watched films there and there were other community groups in the building they were going to convert? But the place they took Eileen to was a huge deserted mill/factory. At least that's what it looked like. It would have taken millions to convert that into flats, surely. And has anyone suggested they've actually been there to look?

It isn't as if there's a flat shortage round Weatherfield! I can't believe that anyone would be so stupid as to give £15k to two dodgy-looking blokes, one of whom recently went bankrupt and is working in someone else's scruffy yard in a tiny back street business.
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