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Old 29-10-2016, 11:22
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I've always thought William Roach was a rubbish actor, but his woeful portrayal of a someone who has had a stroke is pathetic. Have the producers even bothered to research this, or will it be another story for a couple of weeks and all forgotten about. (Sadly I've spent the last 3 years around stroke victims).

I keep expecting Ken to say 'ar jim lad' at the end of every sentence, he's so awful.

Still, Steve is ok (no suprise there) so the whole stoyline seems a waste of time, except to tell us how wonderful Michelle is. Its so obvious her and Robert will get it on very shortly.
Or maybe Robert is the new Carla!

Perhaps when Michelle finds out about Leanne, she'll run to Robert for support. After all he works in the bistro with Leanne. There so much potential for lots of showdowns in the bistro - Leannne - shouting, Nick - me-brain-hurts, Steph - frowning and Michelle - arm-folding and eye-swivelling.
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Old 29-10-2016, 12:54
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In my area, one of the Heath trusts has been criticised by a coroner and there could be a court case over a woman who jumped from a bridge over a motorway after her family could not get her help. They phoned for help and was told they'd have to manage the best they could because the office was closing for the weekend.

Now, not only are the family suffering, but the driver who hit and killed her is too. But heyho, the trust concerned has apologised. That makes it all right then doesn't it?

In David's case, Anna is in hospital, but no-one else was injured so the writers will now forget that David had serious mental problems, which have been miraculously cured by his shock at what happened, and they will concentrate on Anna for a couple of weeks until she's fit and healthy again with no sign of any problems.


Poor misunderstood David, who hasn't a bad bone in his body and who would never harm a fly.

Apart from pushing his mother down the stairs, causing his brother serious brain injury and going to prison for criminal damage.

All say AARRHH for poor David.
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Old 29-10-2016, 13:00
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If Steve hasn't inherited the gene responsible, then he won't have the condition and neither will anyone following him.

Skipping a generation is a bit of a myth. For instance, if the disorder is carried on the female X chromosome a male XY will have the condition and pass the affected gene on to a daughter on the X, but not on the Y to a son.

His daughter XX she will only have the condition if the other X also carried the affected gene. If the other X doesn't carry the affected gene she will not have the condition. It's masked by the unaffected one. She has a 50/50 chance of passing on an affected X to her son or daughter. It would then appear that it had skipped a generation.

Myotonic dystophy doesn't appear to be specific to the either X or Y chromosomes and if present on one of them could be passed on to either a son or a daughter, who will have the condition and won't skip a generation. It can also be caused by a gene mutation. Again it's 50/50 - either they will inherit the affected gene or they won't, and from last night's episode Steve hasn't, so all that wailing and moaning from Michelle was completely over the top. Why didn't she just wait until the afternoon to find out?

The one who needs to be tested is Andy, Steve's brother.
Thanks Janet for that interesting explanation, you learn something new every day, the problem is it doesn't always stick in the memory!
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Old 29-10-2016, 13:25
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Another big SOR is quickly shutting the laptop lid when trying to hide something.

Who does that in real life? You would just change tabs, not shut it completely like Michelle did. It arouses more suspicion.
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Old 29-10-2016, 13:33
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Another big SOR is quickly shutting the laptop lid when trying to hide something.

Who does that in real life? You would just change tabs, not shut it completely like Michelle did. It arouses more suspicion.
You seem to know a lot about this, Aaron!
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Old 29-10-2016, 13:35
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You seem to know a lot about this, Aaron!
Well it's common sense to be fair.
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Old 29-10-2016, 13:52
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Well it's common sense to be fair.

Sorry, you are on the wrong thread if you are expecting any common- sense on here!
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Old 29-10-2016, 15:36
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Just catching up.

Amy's acting when she was kicking the post box was AWFUL!!!

And now I'm into the 2nd half and it seems its the Michelle Connor Show!

And how did Nick know what was in the letter for Leanne? It was sealed!

And the Oscar for dramatic crying without ANY tears goes to Caz (although Ken is a close second with his facial expressions....is it rude of me to laugh when he tries to speak? At one point I thought his head was gonna swivel round like the Exorcist!)

And still about Caz, wouldn't Tryone know Maria better than Caz and know that Maria wouldn't be ringing Caz all hours of the day...its out of character for her.

And finally, would Steve really tell his test results to his mother in the middle of the pub???
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Old 29-10-2016, 16:26
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I've always thought William Roach was a rubbish actor, but his woeful portrayal of a someone who has had a stroke is pathetic. Have the producers even bothered to research this, or will it be another story for a couple of weeks and all forgotten about. (Sadly I've spent the last 3 years around stroke victims).

I keep expecting Ken to say 'ar jim lad' at the end of every sentence, he's so awful.

Still, Steve is ok (no suprise there) so the whole stoyline seems a waste of time, except to tell us how wonderful Michelle is. Its so obvious her and Robert will get it on very shortly.
Why does everyone keep reminding Michelle that she's so strong and brave???
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Old 29-10-2016, 16:51
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Why does everyone keep reminding Michelle that she's so strong and brave???
Because she is, she is the best thing that has happened to this country since they invented Marmite.

And is just as well liked!
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Old 29-10-2016, 17:52
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In my area, one of the Heath trusts has been criticised by a coroner and there could be a court case over a woman who jumped from a bridge over a motorway after her family could not get her help. They phoned for help and was told they'd have to manage the best they could because the office was closing for the weekend.

Now, not only are the family suffering, but the driver who hit and killed her is too. But heyho, the trust concerned has apologised. That makes it all right then doesn't it?

In David's case, Anna is in hospital, but no-one else was injured so the writers will now forget that David had serious mental problems, which have been miraculously cured by his shock at what happened, and they will concentrate on Anna for a couple of weeks until she's fit and healthy again with no sign of any problems.
And Janet, let's not forget the woman who has walked away with a huge golden handshake in all this atrocity.

The interview with that poor woman's family outside of the inquest was heart breaking.
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Old 29-10-2016, 17:56
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All the criticism of Kens acting!!!!!!

It's a joy to see a different facial expression from the norm!
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Old 29-10-2016, 18:31
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Amy's pouting and sad face

the emoticon above acts better


I see that she has had extensive arm folding lesson from the one and only demi god that is miss pouty foldy arms herself, Michelle
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Old 29-10-2016, 19:17
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I'm getting close to stopping watching this show. Tonight's rubbish with Amy kicking the postbox, the rubbish with the other kebab show owner and the uniforms, Caz crying and Tyrone giving symphony when he's never spoken to her and the sudden fawning over Michelle from Robert.
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Old 29-10-2016, 19:17
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Just catching up.

Amy's acting when she was kicking the post box was AWFUL!!!

And now I'm into the 2nd half and it seems its the Michelle Connor Show!

And how did Nick know what was in the letter for Leanne? It was sealed!

And the Oscar for dramatic crying without ANY tears goes to Caz (although Ken is a close second with his facial expressions....is it rude of me to laugh when he tries to speak? At one point I thought his head was gonna swivel round like the Exorcist!)

And still about Caz, wouldn't Tryone know Maria better than Caz and know that Maria wouldn't be ringing Caz all hours of the day...its out of character for her.

And finally, would Steve really tell his test results to his mother in the middle of the pub???
BIB Caz could compete with Michelle on the crying without tears, it it dreadful. Michelle has "cried" frequently lately but never a tear in sight, just the same with Caz (worse corrie actress for a long time and that is saying something!)

Regarding Ken, last night he reminded me of John Hurt as the Elephant Man
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Old 29-10-2016, 19:21
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What is the point of Caz?

She just hangs around the Street like a bad smell, crying with no visible tears, peddling her sob story to anyone who will listen.

Get rid, please
I completely agree. Although the "no visible tears" is surely deliberate? We're supposed to know that she's faking it, but no one else is supposed to!
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Old 29-10-2016, 20:26
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The symptoms of Myotonic Dystrophy, which is the one Jim MacDonald has, don't appear until adulthood.
Ah, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks Janet.
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Old 29-10-2016, 20:44
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If Steve hasn't inherited the gene responsible, then he won't have the condition and neither will anyone following him.

Skipping a generation is a bit of a myth. For instance, if the disorder is carried on the female X chromosome a male XY will have the condition and pass the affected gene on to a daughter on the X, but not on the Y to a son.

His daughter XX she will only have the condition if the other X also carried the affected gene. If the other X doesn't carry the affected gene she will not have the condition. It's masked by the unaffected one. She has a 50/50 chance of passing on an affected X to her son or daughter. It would then appear that it had skipped a generation.

Myotonic dystophy doesn't appear to be specific to the either X or Y chromosomes and if present on one of them could be passed on to either a son or a daughter, who will have the condition and won't skip a generation. It can also be caused by a gene mutation. Again it's 50/50 - either they will inherit the affected gene or they won't, and from last night's episode Steve hasn't, so all that wailing and moaning from Michelle was completely over the top. Why didn't she just wait until the afternoon to find out?

The one who needs to be tested is Andy, Steve's brother.
It's a dominant condition, meaning if you have the mutated version of the gene then you will have the condition as only one effected copy is required. In Steve's case he did not inherit the effected gene from Jim so he has no chance of passing it on to his off spring.
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Old 29-10-2016, 21:36
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I completely agree. Although the "no visible tears" is surely deliberate? We're supposed to know that she's faking it, but no one else is supposed to!
And I agree with you! She wasn't really upset. Therefore, there was no real emotion. The SOR was that anyone believed her!
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Old 29-10-2016, 21:52
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Ugh I'm struggling to watch it I really am. My dad had a major stroke when he was 65 and I was 25. (We're 74 and 34 now). It was so hard to deal with as the only child and my parents divorced. I watched him struggle to speak - his entire right side drooped and he had probably 10% if that of his vocabulary - he could only say yes and no at the start. You don't talk out of one side of the mouth conciously like a flipping pirate telling a secret! And it's rare you'd have a stroke of that magnitude and be able to hold a perfectly sensible conversation just with a wonky mouth. Has there been no research at all? It's so insulting. No doubt by Christmas he'll be tucking his paper under his arm and popping to the library. Humph.
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Old 29-10-2016, 23:27
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Because she is, she is the best thing that has happened to this country since they invented Marmite.

And is just as well liked!


Ugh I'm struggling to watch it I really am. My dad had a major stroke when he was 65 and I was 25. (We're 74 and 34 now). It was so hard to deal with as the only child and my parents divorced. I watched him struggle to speak - his entire right side drooped and he had probably 10% if that of his vocabulary - he could only say yes and no at the start. You don't talk out of one side of the mouth conciously like a flipping pirate telling a secret! And it's rare you'd have a stroke of that magnitude and be able to hold a perfectly sensible conversation just with a wonky mouth. Has there been no research at all? It's so insulting. No doubt by Christmas he'll be tucking his paper under his arm and popping to the library. Humph.
Someone should send the Corrie scriptwriters a tape of Patrick Truman's stroke on EE........now that was properly researched stuff.

Bunch of amateurs run the show.
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Old 30-10-2016, 08:56
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It's a dominant condition, meaning if you have the mutated version of the gene then you will have the condition as only one effected copy is required. In Steve's case he did not inherit the effected gene from Jim so he has no chance of passing it on to his off spring.
Also as it's not associated with the X or Y chromosomes, (i.e. not gender specific) Andy does need to get tested - he could have inherited it while Steve did not. It's a 50/50 chance with an existing dominant condition.

Although I expect now that Kim Marsh had had a chance to demonstrate her 'acting' skills of wailing and moaning, which turned out to be a waste of time if only she'd waited until the afternoon for the result, it will all be forgotten and it will never been mentioned to poor Andy.
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Old 30-10-2016, 09:19
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Ugh I'm struggling to watch it I really am. My dad had a major stroke when he was 65 and I was 25. (We're 74 and 34 now). It was so hard to deal with as the only child and my parents divorced. I watched him struggle to speak - his entire right side drooped and he had probably 10% if that of his vocabulary - he could only say yes and no at the start. You don't talk out of one side of the mouth conciously like a flipping pirate telling a secret! And it's rare you'd have a stroke of that magnitude and be able to hold a perfectly sensible conversation just with a wonky mouth. Has there been no research at all? It's so insulting. No doubt by Christmas he'll be tucking his paper under his arm and popping to the library. Humph.
Totally agree, and this is what I tried to say in an earlier post - but not as well as you Sorry, to hear about your dad, I'm in a similar situation at the moment with mine, and the current Corrie stroke acting is insulting.
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Old 30-10-2016, 09:24
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Another big SOR is quickly shutting the laptop lid when trying to hide something.

Who does that in real life? You would just change tabs, not shut it completely like Michelle did. It arouses more suspicion.
I presume Michelle was looking up the abortion clinic on the laptop, which she closed suddenly? Yet Amy saw it on the tablet?
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Old 30-10-2016, 09:27
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I presume Michelle was looking up the abortion clinic on the laptop, which she closed suddenly? Yet Amy saw it on the tablet?
I think it was one of those 2 in 1 laptop tablet things that Michelle has.

Also, Michelle would definitely have a passcode on it.
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