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Coronation Street - Suspension of Reality (Part 10)
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jackol
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by STUFFY:
“I don't understand why folks are going on about Ken's portrayal of "a stroke" as if there is just one way that a stroke can affect people.

There are so many ways that people can be affected, from someone not even knowing that one has occurred, putting it down to "having a funny turn"' to someone else being totally incapacitated, with permanent brain damage!

There is just no right or wrong way to act like someone who "has had a stroke".

If you want to criticise any silly way to portray a medical condition, look no further than Anna the fishwife. For anyone to act as she is doing just a short time after serious burns on her legs and extensive skin grafts is just beyond credibility and is just insulting the viewers intelligence!”

Agree about your stroke rant. The only problem is Ken was in hospital for quiet awhile meaning it must of been a fairly severe stroke. A friend of mine had a stroke about 3 years ago and she is still not well as it affected her brain. Another friend had a stroke, was in hospital overnight and discharged to the Stroke team. He was signed off work for a month, told he coudnt drive during that period and that was it. He was fine within a matter of weeks
Same with Anna. Most skin grafts are ok after 2 weeks and she would be released but seen regularly at a Burns Center clinic. Someone would come out daily to change her dressing. Burns victims are only kept in hospital if there is a fear of infection.
Tippy Toes
27-11-2016
OK, I admit to dropping off during episodes but Friday's double bill and the timelines had me shaking my head in disbelief.

The last things I remember about the previous couple or so episodes :

1. Gail sitting in the pub lamenting her latest dearly departed
2. Ken preparing to leave hospital with the Addams Family
3. Zeedan proposing marriage to the glamour puss nursey
4. Maria's arrest (OK that was a bit earlier but really nothing else mentioned in the interim). Has she been charged?
5. Phelan getting kicked out of Eileen's love nest
6. Anna home from hospital

So Friday, I wake up to find

1. Funeral over
2. Ken sitting in the pub
3. Talk about a wedding next week
4. Still nothing about Maria
5. Phelan back at the said love nest
6. Anna turning up in various places and scenes

Is it me?

Have I been unwittingly abducted by Aliens and returned to Earth several weeks later?

I know there has to be some artistic licence to hurry along storylines and not get bogged down in irrelevant details, but really! Are people really paid to write the sh!ite we are watching? How are we supposed to feel any connection with the characters and their stories when nothing makes any sense.
STUFFY
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Tippy Toes:
“OK, I admit to dropping off during episodes but Friday's double bill and the timelines had me shaking my head in disbelief.

The last things I remember about the previous couple or so episodes :

1. Gail sitting in the pub lamenting her latest dearly departed
2. Ken preparing to leave hospital with the Addams Family
3. Zeedan proposing marriage to the glamour puss nursey
4. Maria's arrest (OK that was a bit earlier but really nothing else mentioned in the interim). Has she been charged?
5. Phelan getting kicked out of Eileen's love nest
6. Anna home from hospital

So Friday, I wake up to find

1. Funeral over
2. Ken sitting in the pub
3. Talk about a wedding next week
4. Still nothing about Maria
5. Phelan back at the said love nest
6. Anna turning up in various places and scenes

Is it me?

Have I been unwittingly abducted by Aliens and returned to Earth several weeks later?

I know there has to be some artistic licence to hurry along storylines and not get bogged down in irrelevant details, but really! Are people really paid to write the sh!ite we are watching? How are we supposed to feel any connection with the characters and their stories when nothing makes any sense.”

Sorry to be the one to have to tell you.

You haven't been returned to the real world, but you are stuck in an alternative universe.

You will never return to reality until you stop watching certain TV programmes.

Total abstinence from all television is your only real hope!
ewoodie
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by jackol:
“Agree about your stroke rant. The only problem is Ken was in hospital for quiet awhile meaning it must of been a fairly severe stroke. A friend of mine had a stroke about 3 years ago and she is still not well as it affected her brain. Another friend had a stroke, was in hospital overnight and discharged to the Stroke team. He was signed off work for a month, told he coudnt drive during that period and that was it. He was fine within a matter of weeks
Same with Anna. Most skin grafts are ok after 2 weeks and she would be released but seen regularly at a Burns Center clinic. Someone would come out daily to change her dressing. Burns victims are only kept in hospital if there is a fear of infection.”

Exactly and there were cries of 'He could die,' being flung around. But as soon as everyone who was coming back had turned up, he was discharged and supping in the Rovers within the week. Anna's SL has been no better.


Oh and all these bl@@dy weddings that are coming up - Roy and Cathy, Zeedan and Rana and
Spoiler
Phelan and Eileen. Three!
Tippy Toes
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by STUFFY:
“Sorry to be the one to have to tell you.

You haven't been returned to the real world, but you are stuck in an alternative universe.

You will never return to reality until you stop watching certain TV programmes.

Total abstinence from all television is your only real hope! ”

Thank you for the advice, though probably won't take it, I'll just keep on ranting!
STUFFY
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Exactly and there were cries of 'He could die,' being flung around. But as soon as everyone who was coming back had turned up, he was discharged and supping in the Rovers within the week. Anna's SL has been no better.


Oh and all these bl@@dy weddings that are coming up - Roy and Cathy, Zeedan and Rana and
Spoiler
Phelan and Eileen. Three!
”

I wouldn't mind betting sixpence that Gail is at again within a twelve month.
doormouse
27-11-2016
I think we should produce an alternative show to gogglebox. Show us all getting enraged due to the farce that is CS-it would be mainly bleeps if they filmed us at our house though! 😜
Meldrewman
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by doormouse:
“I think we should produce an alternative show to gogglebox. Show us all getting enraged due to the farce that is CS-it would be mainly bleeps if they filmed us at our house though! 😜”

Here, we have a good line in expressions of silent disbelief for such a programme.
RickLopez
27-11-2016
I think the Barlow kitchen layout is right - you just never see the extended bit to the side.
heiker
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by STUFFY:
“I wouldn't mind betting sixpence that Gail is at again within a twelve month. ”

With Dev, I hope
callumfreeman
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Tippy Toes:
“OK, I admit to dropping off during episodes but Friday's double bill and the timelines had me shaking my head in disbelief.

The last things I remember about the previous couple or so episodes :

1. Gail sitting in the pub lamenting her latest dearly departed
2. Ken preparing to leave hospital with the Addams Family
3. Zeedan proposing marriage to the glamour puss nursey
4. Maria's arrest (OK that was a bit earlier but really nothing else mentioned in the interim). Has she been charged?
5. Phelan getting kicked out of Eileen's love nest
6. Anna home from hospital

So Friday, I wake up to find

1. Funeral over
2. Ken sitting in the pub
3. Talk about a wedding next week
4. Still nothing about Maria
5. Phelan back at the said love nest
6. Anna turning up in various places and scenes

Is it me?

Have I been unwittingly abducted by Aliens and returned to Earth several weeks later?

I know there has to be some artistic licence to hurry along storylines and not get bogged down in irrelevant details, but really! Are people really paid to write the sh!ite we are watching? How are we supposed to feel any connection with the characters and their stories when nothing makes any sense.”

Corrie's timing and continuity is very weird, especially when it concerns Maria. As said before those closest to her don't seem to have realised she has been charged with Caz's "murder", Luke is too busy eyeing up Tracy (someone he has suddenly started interacting with) despite his previous suspicions about Caz. Even Tyrone (a supposed close friend of Maria) went on as normal. Heck, even Michelle is happily strutting around pretending to be a wedding planner, despite her nephew's mother being banged up.

I know it is early days yet, but there doesn't seem to be any actual repercussions for Phelan. Hardly any of the residents seem overly upset at losing their money (apart from maybe Yasmeen who has enough to deal with) and as you said is suddenly back with Eileen, despite her slapping him and sending him on his way the night before. I wonder if anyone will bother going to see if there was any progress on the flats, or will just leave it. Andy seems suspicious, but no doubt if he tries to get to the bottom of it people will tell him to let it go and move on. *rolls eyes*
callumfreeman
27-11-2016
So, Norris wondered how he would fit two lodgers in the house and had to come up with a solution to the problem. However across the wall from him, Ken is quite easily managing to have 5 people living with him.
RickLopez
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“So, Norris wondered how he would fit two lodgers in the house and had to come up with a solution to the problem. However across the wall from him, Ken is quite easily managing to have 5 people living with him. ”

I know, this is ridiculous. They're making a big thing about Norris having two bedrooms upstairs, but in Ken's house they have Ken, Peter, Tracy, Adam and Daniel all needing bedrooms, minus the front room that must mean there are four upstairs.

Even if Daniel and Adam are sharing (which I doubt it) there's till three. Totally unrealistic.
Boz_Lowdownl
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Brummy Girl:
“Two sons and a grandson (Adam is his late daughter Susan's son with Mike Baldwin).

I knew his stroke recovery wouldn't last long. Corrie are very impatient when it comes to showing recoveries from injuries. It's like well we've shown the big dramatic incident but we can't have the individual in hospital too long so we'll get them on the road to recovery in no time.

Patrick in EE took a good 18 months/2 years to recover from his stroke”

Out of all the SORs in CS, Adam remains the biggest one. Aborted when his mother was pregnant, then miraculously came back to life again 14 years later.
Osusana
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“I know, this is ridiculous. They're making a big thing about Norris having two bedrooms upstairs, but in Ken's house they have Ken, Peter, Tracy, Adam and Daniel all needing bedrooms, minus the front room that must mean there are four upstairs.

Even if Daniel and Adam are sharing (which I doubt it) there's till three. Totally unrealistic.”

There are several 'tardis' houses on CS, with them all crammed in like sardines in some houses, meanwhile, writers have just remembered that the flat above Dev's shop is empty.............( for Adam and Daniel to share)
Also, in another suspension of any reality, Maria is charged with murder with no evidence of a body and as yet no lawyer who would have her released in a few minutes.
Tippy Toes
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Osusana:
“There are several 'tardis' houses on CS, with them all crammed in like sardines in some houses, meanwhile, writers have just remembered that the flat above Dev's shop is empty.............( for Adam and Daniel to share)
Also, in another suspension of any reality, Maria is charged with murder with no evidence of a body and as yet no lawyer who would have her released in a few minutes.”

But has she been? Did we ever see her again after she was banged up by the only Lady Plod who picked her up in the Street?
Meldrewman
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Tippy Toes:
“But has she been? Did we ever see her again after she was banged up by the only Lady Plod who picked her up in the Street?”

If she hasn't, she should be out by now. If she had she'd be either held on remand or out on bail.

Either way, the writers seem to have become bored with the story. (as do most of her friends and relatives!)
Janet43
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“Out of all the SORs in CS, Adam remains the biggest one. Aborted when his mother was pregnant, then miraculously came back to life again 14 years later.”

Are you mixing up Adam and Daniel?

Susan admitted that she had lied about the abortion and had Adam. He even spent time with Mike in 2001. Then his mother died and he went to boarding school, returning to Underworld until his father Mike died, then moving to Portsmouth to open a betting shop with Peter.

Daniel is Ken's son with Denise, the hairdresser, Ken moving in with them when Tracey was sent to prison. Ken and Deirdre later got back together.
Osusana
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Tippy Toes:
“But has she been? Did we ever see her again after she was banged up by the only Lady Plod who picked her up in the Street?”

My bad, I should have said she was arrested on suspicion of murder, she hasn't been charged as far as we know. But still, no body .......
jackol
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Meldrewman:
“If she hasn't, she should be out by now. If she had she'd be either held on remand or out on bail.

Either way, the writers seem to have become bored with the story. (as do most of her friends and relatives!)”

No bail once charged with murder, straight to remand. The only conclusion is she hasnt been charged but has been released on police bail
Soapster1
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by stevepjk:
“how the hell did he live alone for six years as a teen and nobody noticed, stupid story

what about parents evenings, permission slips for school trips and such, needing parents signatures for stuff. and neighbours would notice an abandoned teen as well”

Exactly. She left him a Debit card apparently.
Which presumably he used very wisely and never treated his friends to lunches at McDonalds every week, or buying rakes of cans and having parties over at his parentless pad every weekend??
He's looking pretty good for a lad that has eaten takeaway food for 6 years, or do we believe he was peeling spuds and cooking himself nutritious meals every night, before popping his school uniform in the wash and doing his homework.
Did he ever need to get a plumber or electrician in? Did they not think it was a bit odd.
Did Denise text him every Tuesday to say 'I know I walked out on you but remember to put the bins out, luv'???
Meldrewman
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by jackol:
“No bail once charged with murder, straight to remand. The only conclusion is she hasnt been charged but has been released on police bail”

Not necessarily ... BUT the biggest SOR is that, bail or no bail - no-one seems bothered!
MartinRosen
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“
Oh and all these bl@@dy weddings that are coming up - Roy and Cathy, Zeedan and Rana and
Spoiler
Phelan and Eileen. Three!
”

How many do we think will actually happen?
jackol
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Meldrewman:
“Not necessarily ... BUT the biggest SOR is that, bail or no bail - no-one seems bothered!”

No bail after a charge of murder as a magistrate has no power to give bail after a charge of murder has been submitted.http://www.courtroomadvice.co.uk/you...on-arrest.html
Meldrewman
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by jackol:
“No bail after a charge of murder as a magistrate has no power to give bail after a charge of murder has been submitted.http://www.courtroomadvice.co.uk/you...on-arrest.html”

From the CPS site ...

"Section 114 of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 amends Schedule 1 to the Bail Act 1976. Section 114(2) provides that bail may not be granted to someone charged with murder unless the court is satisfied that there is no significant risk that, if released on bail, that person would commit an offence that would be likely to cause physical or mental injury to another person. In coming to that decision, the court must have regard to the nature and seriousness of the offence, the suspect's character and antecedents and his record in relation to previous grants of bail."

but, let's just agree to disagree and wonder why Maria's predicament seems to have been forgotten. Maybe because the writers have realsied they've written themselves into an inextricable maze of improbability?
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