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Coronation Street - Suspension of Reality (Part 10)
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cedricthedog
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ten_Ben:
“So why haven't the cops arrested Daniel for the murder of his mother? Do they need to check all the scissors he had in the flat first?
.”

We said the same! "Ah, so your mother has 'disappeared' you say? So, I think you must have murdered her!"

And another thing on this same scene.... The Policewoman asked Daniel what his mum was wearing, when she left home six years ago, and he started with

"A pair of black pants"



How did he know what colour his mum's underwear was? (unless it was that weird thing about CS referring to trousers as pants again? )
dobbybear
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by cedricthedog:
“We said the same! "Ah, so your mother has 'disappeared' you say? So, I think you must have murdered her!"

And another thing on this same scene.... The Policewoman asked Daniel what his mum was wearing, when she left home six years ago, and he started with

"A pair of black pants"



How did he know what colour his mum's underwear was? (unless it was that weird thing about CS referring to trousers as pants again? )”

Yes very strange that Daniel who is so very northern and probably never travelled anywhere would use the American term for trousers by referring to them as pants

Also how over the top was the woman in the Rovers who was chatting up Peter? I do not believe that any woman would be so bloody forward, especially seemingly sober and in a back street pub. Also checking his wedding ring finger for a ring and saying he is single( which yes I know he is). This doesn't prove anything, my husband doesn't wear a wedding ring
stevepjk
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by dobbybear:
“Yes very strange that Daniel who is so very northern and probably never travelled anywhere would use the American term for trousers by referring to them as pants
”

noticed a lot of Americanisms leaking into scripts on lots of programmes. Will we have steve putting gas in the taxi and Sarah changing Harry's diaper and giving him his pacifier. Amy is wearing a retainer and Max has cavities

it is very annoying and rather offensive to our mother tongue
BlueEyedMrsP
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Redpoppy:
“When did Liam become ginger?”

He looks like Kirk's mini-me.

Regarding Aiden... what a prat. Taking the kid back home hoping to interrupt Maria with a bloke, and ruining Liam's Christmas surprise in the process.
davejc64
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by dobbybear:
“Yes very strange that Daniel who is so very northern and probably never travelled anywhere would use the American term for trousers by referring to them as pants

Also how over the top was the woman in the Rovers who was chatting up Peter? I do not believe that any woman would be so bloody forward, especially seemingly sober and in a back street pub. Also checking his wedding ring finger for a ring and saying he is single( which yes I know he is). This doesn't prove anything, my husband doesn't wear a wedding ring”

Steady now or you will get accused of making sexist remarks.
dobbybear
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by davejc64:
“Steady now or you will get accused of making sexist remarks. ”

Haha
mrsdaisychain
08-12-2016
I could be wrong and missed it but Cathy is very forgiving of her sister when she had an affair with her husband producing a son.
I don't think there has been a mention of it. I know I wouldn't want any sister of mine near me again after doing that.

Loved the way Norris got a bit emotional when Mary told her story to him, proves he is her friend. Lets hope if they do find her son, it does not end like Michelle finding her baby swap son never to be mentioned again..
ewoodie
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by stevepjk:
“noticed a lot of Americanisms leaking into scripts on lots of programmes. Will we have steve putting gas in the taxi and Sarah changing Harry's diaper and giving him his pacifier. Amy is wearing a retainer and Max has cavities

it is very annoying and rather offensive to our mother tongue”

Really? I hadn't noticed. But how bl00dy dare Corrie use Americanisms to that extent. No wonder it's a mess. Corrie cling onto the Albert Tatlock and the Duckies and their living museums, yet have all these Americanisms in the prog.

Weird.

Too many colloquialisms and the viewers wouldn't understand. But there are some here which they could use. I'm not a Manc but I know a lot of them.


Chewing gum - a sweetened and flavored preparation for chewing

Manc saying: Chuddy or chud

Example: "Do you want a chuddy?"

Bother - trouble or aggravation

Manc saying: Mither

Example: "I can't be mithered with all this", or "I'm in a bit of mither."

Thirsty - in need of a drink

Manc saying: Gaggin'

Example: "I'm gaggin' for a drink."

Very - extremely

Manc saying: Dead

Example: "That exam was dead 'ard."

Alley - a passage through a continuous row of houses, permitting access from the street to backyards or garages.

Manc saying: Ginnel

Example: "He got away by running up that ginnel."

Excellent - very good

Manc saying: Nice one/Top one

To fix - repair or mend

Manc saying: Fettled

Example: "I am taking my car in to get fettled.

Great - excellent, very good.

Crying - to weep; shed tears

Manc saying: Scrikin'

Example: "What's up with the baby, he won't stop scrikin"

Tantrum - outburst of temper

Manc saying: Strop

Example: "He threw a strop."

Fool - silly or stupid person

Manc saying: Daft 'apeth

Example: "Stop being such a daft 'apeth."

Generic term of endearment - mate or dear

Manc saying: Cock

Scrounge - ask for or obtain (something to which one is not strictly entitled).

Manc saying: Cadge

Example "I need to cadge a lift off someone"

" I'm feeling rather hungry "

Manc saying: "Mi stomach thinks mi throat's cut"

Have the refuse collectors been yet, mother?

Manc saying: "Ast bin men bin mam?"

" Fish, chips and peas with the water they were cooked in. "

Manc saying: "Fish, chips and peas with pea wet "

" You have a rather poor haircut "

Manch saying: "What did they cut your hair with, a knife and fork?"

Close friend or sibling

Manc saying: "Our Kid"

Example: "Y'all right our kid?"

Excuse me?

Manc saying: "Ee are.."

Example: "Ee are, what you doing?

You cannot get something for nothing.

Manc saying: "You don't get owt for nowt."

Shut the door.

Manc saying: "Put wood int' 'ole."

Sat waiting for someone else.

Manc saying: "Sat here like piffy on a rock."

He has bandy-legs.

Manc saying: "He couldn't stop a pig in a ginnel."

Your hair is very knotted.

Manc saying: "Your hair is full o' lugs."
ayrshire lass
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by stevepjk:
“noticed a lot of Americanisms leaking into scripts on lots of programmes. Will we have steve putting gas in the taxi and Sarah changing Harry's diaper and giving him his pacifier. Amy is wearing a retainer and Max has cavities

it is very annoying and rather offensive to our mother tongue”

I agree about all these annoying Americanisms that are being used now, just couldn't believe it when Daniel used the word pants, I thought he was talking about her knickers! Then it dawned on me, I remember Kevin using the word "slacks" when he was talking about his trousers, another Americanism .
However, the one that annoys me most is people saying " I'm good " when someone asks how they are, instead of saying I'm fine, or I'm OK, Even Roy used it one time, which someone like him would never do in real life!
Ondine
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by mrsdaisychain:
“I could be wrong and missed it but Cathy is very forgiving of her sister when she had an affair with her husband producing a son.
I don't think there has been a mention of it. I know I wouldn't want any sister of mine near me again after doing that.

Loved the way Norris got a bit emotional when Mary told her story to him, proves he is her friend. Lets hope if they do find her son, it does not end like Michelle finding her baby swap son never to be mentioned again..”

It will be exactly the same. Long lost baby will be found, there will be issues for a few weeks and then baby will be written out and never mentioned again.
chestfield
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by ayrshire lass:
“I agree about all these annoying Americanisms that are being used now, just couldn't believe it when Daniel used the word pants, I thought he was talking about her knickers! Then it dawned on me, I remember Kevin using the word "slacks" when he was talking about his trousers, another Americanism .
However, the one that annoys me most is people saying " I'm good " when someone asks how they are, instead of saying I'm fine, or I'm OK, Even Roy used it one time, which someone like him would never do in real life!”

And it's often "to go" in Roy's
ayrshire lass
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ondine:
“It will be exactly the same. Long lost baby will be found, there will be issues for a few weeks and then baby will be written out and never mentioned again.”

Or when Mary finally meeets him, he will just forget about the parents who brought him up ( if he was adopted), and the life he has known for about 30/40 years and move to the Street if there's a flat available or a room in someone's house ( which there always is) and end up working in factreh, Streetcars, Roys or the pub. Would not surprise me!
ayrshire lass
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by chestfield:
“And it's often "to go" in Roy's”

Another annoying one to add to the list. Along with "Tuna on brown, no mayo!" Arghh!!
Belligerence
08-12-2016
"Can I get a coffee to go, Roy?"
helen_w
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ten_Ben:
“This is one of Corrie's many problems at the moment.”

apart from eva conveniently having reasons to be off-screen quite a few times on monday (i laughed out loud at the milk one!), corrie's definitely improving under kate oates' reign in my opinion. i actually watch it now, rather than have the it on as a habit.
ayrshire lass
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“"Can I get a coffee to go, Roy?" ”

No more, PLEASE!
Gulftastic
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by stevepjk:
“noticed a lot of Americanisms leaking into scripts on lots of programmes. Will we have steve putting gas in the taxi and Sarah changing Harry's diaper and giving him his pacifier. Amy is wearing a retainer and Max has cavities

it is very annoying and rather offensive to our mother tongue”

Next thing you know, they'll be getting their post put into a bread bin on a pole in their front garden...
Lost Tripper
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Really? I hadn't noticed. But how bl00dy dare Corrie use Americanisms to that extent. No wonder it's a mess. Corrie cling onto the Albert Tatlock and the Duckies and their living museums, yet have all these Americanisms in the prog.

Weird.

Too many colloquialisms and the viewers wouldn't understand. But there are some here which they could use. I'm not a Manc but I know a lot of them.


Chewing gum - a sweetened and flavored preparation for chewing

Manc saying: Chuddy or chud

Example: "Do you want a chuddy?"

Bother - trouble or aggravation

Manc saying: Mither

Example: "I can't be mithered with all this", or "I'm in a bit of mither."

Thirsty - in need of a drink

Manc saying: Gaggin'

Example: "I'm gaggin' for a drink."

Very - extremely

Manc saying: Dead

Example: "That exam was dead 'ard."

Alley - a passage through a continuous row of houses, permitting access from the street to backyards or garages.

Manc saying: Ginnel

Example: "He got away by running up that ginnel."

Excellent - very good

Manc saying: Nice one/Top one

To fix - repair or mend

Manc saying: Fettled

Example: "I am taking my car in to get fettled.

Great - excellent, very good.

Crying - to weep; shed tears

Manc saying: Scrikin'

Example: "What's up with the baby, he won't stop scrikin"

Tantrum - outburst of temper

Manc saying: Strop

Example: "He threw a strop."

Fool - silly or stupid person

Manc saying: Daft 'apeth

Example: "Stop being such a daft 'apeth."

Generic term of endearment - mate or dear

Manc saying: Cock

Scrounge - ask for or obtain (something to which one is not strictly entitled).

Manc saying: Cadge

Example "I need to cadge a lift off someone"

" I'm feeling rather hungry "

Manc saying: "Mi stomach thinks mi throat's cut"

Have the refuse collectors been yet, mother?

Manc saying: "Ast bin men bin mam?"

" Fish, chips and peas with the water they were cooked in. "

Manc saying: "Fish, chips and peas with pea wet "

" You have a rather poor haircut "

Manch saying: "What did they cut your hair with, a knife and fork?"

Close friend or sibling

Manc saying: "Our Kid"

Example: "Y'all right our kid?"

Excuse me?

Manc saying: "Ee are.."

Example: "Ee are, what you doing?

You cannot get something for nothing.

Manc saying: "You don't get owt for nowt."

Shut the door.

Manc saying: "Put wood int' 'ole."

Sat waiting for someone else.

Manc saying: "Sat here like piffy on a rock."

He has bandy-legs.

Manc saying: "He couldn't stop a pig in a ginnel."

Your hair is very knotted.

Manc saying: "Your hair is full o' lugs."”


thanks for that but as a born and bred Mancunian i cannot see it being of much use use in the Manchester area. sounds like some cockney comedian doing a weak impersonation on a northerner or one of the corrie writers who come up with their ridiculous ideas of what life is like 'oop north'
STUFFY
08-12-2016
I don't understand the comment about pants being an American expression, at school in the forties we always referred to our trousers as pants.

As youngsters we always wore short pants, and couldn't wait to be "dropped" into long pants when about thirteen, it showed you where no longer a child.
However in the Boy Scouts we wore shorts until becoming a Senior Scout.

Trousers were 'posh'.
tuppencehapenny
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by dobbybear:
“Yes very strange that Daniel who is so very northern and probably never travelled anywhere would use the American term for trousers by referring to them as pants

Also how over the top was the woman in the Rovers who was chatting up Peter? I do not believe that any woman would be so bloody forward, especially seemingly sober and in a back street pub. Also checking his wedding ring finger for a ring and saying he is single( which yes I know he is). This doesn't prove anything, my husband doesn't wear a wedding ring”

I seem to remember we've had this conversation before. Pants for trousers isn't an Americanism - we say this where I live, some miles north of Manchester. Pants go over the top of underpants. I don't think I heard 'pants' being used to mean knickers/underpants till I left my home town and went to university. And that's a long time ago!
cedricthedog
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by ayrshire lass:
“I agree about all these annoying Americanisms that are being used now, just couldn't believe it when Daniel used the word pants, I thought he was talking about her knickers! Then it dawned on me, I remember Kevin using the word "slacks" when he was talking about his trousers, another Americanism!”

I think Kevin used pants for trousers (as in used the word, not the apparel!) a few months back and we discussed it on this thread. Also noticed another character use it a couple of weeks back, can't recall who at the mo....
cedricthedog
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“I seem to remember we've had this conversation before!”

We did! (see above) Seem to recall that we decided it was indeed more of a regional thing than an Americanism, but not sure what regions use pants as opposed to trousers. Would be good if it was Manchester of course!

Also the notion of "underpants" going beneath "pants" is indeed the logical etymology
RealityRocks
08-12-2016
I live in Manchester and yes, pants are trousers, Corrie was being quite accurate for once! I grew up in Yorkshire though (where trousers are trousers and pants cover your bum!) so when I moved here nearly 10 years ago and someone asked if I liked their pants I was most shocked!!
daisydee
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Really? I hadn't noticed. But how bl00dy dare Corrie use Americanisms to that extent. No wonder it's a mess. Corrie cling onto the Albert Tatlock and the Duckies and their living museums, yet have all these Americanisms in the prog.

Weird.

Too many colloquialisms and the viewers wouldn't understand. But there are some here which they could use. I'm not a Manc but I know a lot of them.


Chewing gum - a sweetened and flavored preparation for chewing

Manc saying: Chuddy or chud

Example: "Do you want a chuddy?"

Bother - trouble or aggravation

Manc saying: Mither

Example: "I can't be mithered with all this", or "I'm in a bit of mither."

Thirsty - in need of a drink

Manc saying: Gaggin'

Example: "I'm gaggin' for a drink."

Very - extremely

Manc saying: Dead

Example: "That exam was dead 'ard."

Alley - a passage through a continuous row of houses, permitting access from the street to backyards or garages.

Manc saying: Ginnel

Example: "He got away by running up that ginnel."

Excellent - very good

Manc saying: Nice one/Top one

To fix - repair or mend

Manc saying: Fettled

Example: "I am taking my car in to get fettled.

Great - excellent, very good.

Crying - to weep; shed tears

Manc saying: Scrikin'

Example: "What's up with the baby, he won't stop scrikin"

Tantrum - outburst of temper

Manc saying: Strop

Example: "He threw a strop."

Fool - silly or stupid person

Manc saying: Daft 'apeth

Example: "Stop being such a daft 'apeth."

Generic term of endearment - mate or dear

Manc saying: Cock

Scrounge - ask for or obtain (something to which one is not strictly entitled).

Manc saying: Cadge

Example "I need to cadge a lift off someone"

" I'm feeling rather hungry "

Manc saying: "Mi stomach thinks mi throat's cut"

Have the refuse collectors been yet, mother?

Manc saying: "Ast bin men bin mam?"

" Fish, chips and peas with the water they were cooked in. "

Manc saying: "Fish, chips and peas with pea wet "

" You have a rather poor haircut "

Manch saying: "What did they cut your hair with, a knife and fork?"

Close friend or sibling

Manc saying: "Our Kid"

Example: "Y'all right our kid?"

Excuse me?

Manc saying: "Ee are.."

Example: "Ee are, what you doing?

You cannot get something for nothing.

Manc saying: "You don't get owt for nowt."

Shut the door.

Manc saying: "Put wood int' 'ole."

Sat waiting for someone else.

Manc saying: "Sat here like piffy on a rock."

He has bandy-legs.

Manc saying: "He couldn't stop a pig in a ginnel."

Your hair is very knotted.

Manc saying: "Your hair is full o' lugs."”

I'm originally a Yorkshire lass - haven't heard many of these for years. Although we pronounced ginnel as jennel, even now, I put 'our' before the name of a brother or sister. 'hair full of lugs' I haven't heard since I was a child! Nevertheless - it's all 'normal' language to me.

BTW a woman's knickers are 'panties'.
tuppencehapenny
08-12-2016
From ewoodie's list: Sat waiting for someone else. Manc saying: "Sat here like piffy on a rock."

Round here, it's 'like cheese at fourpence'.
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