or going into the kabin for his usual cigars

I would go with coripedia to be honest as it is totally corrie based IMDB is worldwide so dont often get their facts right. even seen a DOB for an actor ten years out so his role as a teen in a 1984 film when his dob is 1974 is a tad confusing (should have said 1969)

What does Eileen think about all this Billy and Shona stuff?!

Andy and his writing - what was the point in that?

Toyah is only looking for work at the Rovers so that can stick the knife in!


Please no. Adam is a git.


Contrived nonsense indeed. Bl@@dy OTT contrived nonsense. Cigars, whisky and a coat just like Mike's. All never to be seen ever again.

Never mind that - what does the almighty all knowing Phelan think? Everything seems to revolve around him.

It seems he has been too busy being involved in everything else to have met another fellow dodgy character like her.

ShiftyShona sleeps in bus shelters and doesn't wash yet manages to have perfect eye make up and thick false lashes.

having arranged to have his hire casr stolen and chatted about it on his mobile with a mate, his credit card was refused in the Rovers and he's obviously broke. Gives all the indications that he' another wrongun. Just what the street could do with. Yawn.

Definitely living up to ITV's own description that it's "the story of the everyday lives of ordinary folk living in a northern town called Weatherfield."

even blockbuster movie makers made that cock up where all the orphans in the 2005 Oliver twist film had baggy clothes, dirty faces and amazingly clean hair

For a vagrant she seems to carry a rather large wardrobe.

This 'Shona' is another in a long line of wayward, gobby brats who will, eventually, be accepted despite her previous misdemeanours. Jenny, Leanne, Toyah, Fiz, Becky, Tina, Kylie, Maddeh, Gemma have all seen the light and breathed in the Weatherfield air, now it's Shona's turn.

As for Billy, I wish he'd do one. Corrie have a lot of pointless characters, but he takes the biscuit. Hardly ever seen doing his 'vicar' job, he besmirched a dead man's name and revelled in sin. And if that wasn't enough he's now treating nut-job Shona as his social experiment.

You're right owl, the only thing that will force ITV to take action to improve things is if the ratings decline sharply and they are in danger of losing advertising revenue. It's a sad state of affairs that they clearly don't give a shite about the quality of the show. Unfortunately many people continue to watch out of habit. It would be great if something could be organised over social media encouraging viewers who aren't happy with the show to switch off on a certain date but I doubt it would work.

I'm aware that all TV shows have suffered a loss of viewers due to streaming services and people recording or watching on catch up but I do find it interesting that Corrie's viewing figures have declined sharply over the past 10 years as (imo) this is when the quality started to decline. As an example Ken and Deirdre's 2nd wedding in 2005 attracted 17 million viewers. I know this was a special episode but I also looked at ratings for normal episodes in 2008/2009 and they generally attracted an average of 10 million viewers. That's 3 million viewers lost. I can accept some is due to catch up TV etc, but I suspect an equal number is due to the dip in quality since that time. Interestingly, this very thread was also set up in 2009. I think this was when the show really started to go down the toilet. I've waited patiently for it to improve over the past 7/8 years but I'm losing faith that it ever will. It's going to take a pretty big change high up at ITV to make it happen. Unfortunately the only thing they care about is milking the show for all its worth. Adding a 6th episode a week is only going to make things 10 times worse

Sorry for the long depressing rant! On the bright side it means lots more material for us to take the piss out of on this thread!

Vagrant Shona better be on her guard if shes still around when Sophie returns as she will drive our sophie into a frenzy and will be persued relentlessly until she gets her wicked way with her.

Also, when Shona posted David's wallet she did not have her rucksack with her but did in scenes either side. I wonder where she left it, and whether she is indeed homeless or just looking for sympathy from people such as Billy?

This really winds me up! Why are none of the women ever allowed to look rough? They wake up fully caked in make up with perfect her. And then there's the outfits. Most of them dress as if they're going on a hot date or to a wedding; not to work in a knicker factory or backstreet pub.

You and Cool_Mate both.

That factory must make amazing profits to pay the salaries of so many bosses. Is Carla still a part owner?

Similarly, Eva asking Toyah Has your hair always been that length? Most people's hair does grow!

I doubt it!

Indeed, I wonder if she is too embarrassed to say hello to everyone?

When Peter and Toyah were in his flat and Toyah supposedly got wet paint in her hair it looked like someone had started to strip the walls but they hadn't been painted over yet as there were different patches of colour. If that wall had been painted then whoever did it did a pretty shit job!

After Todd has split so many relationships - Sean & Billy, Marcus & Maria and Jason & Eva - it would be great if Shona, without actually seducing Billy, pulls the right sympathetic heartstrings of Billy, drives Todd scatty and breaks this relationship of Todd's.

I'd like to know why Jenny has been singled out by Johnny as nasty. Lots of Corrie folk are nasty. Johnny himself is nasty.

He cheated on his wife when he sh@gged Carla's mother which resulted in his wife's death and he didn't bother to tell his children until recently. Nasty.

His daughter Kate treated Caz like sh!te when they split and then she changed her allegiances and was concerned for Caz and treated Maria like sh!te. Nasty.

Aidan is cheating on Eva with Maria and he goes round punching people. Nasty.

Then there's his newly found daughter, Carla. No explanation needed. Nasty.

Then there's his distant relation Michelle. See above. Nasty.

Maria is a relation by marriage. She's carrying on with Aidan. Nasty.

Eva didn't even bother to establish the facts or ask if she could leave her job before dashing into her flat and ranting and raving and smashing stuff. And she's had a bitch at Jenny. Yet Johnny thinks she's a saint. Nasty.

And there's plenty more nasty folk in Corrie.

IIRC she sold out to Aidan and Johnny.

Maybe it was an all day breakfast.

No make up = insomnia, or you are loony.

Once upon a time you had the likes of Bet Lynch slobbering on the couch, disheveled, drinking a cuppa with a face pack on.

Now the modern Corrie woman looks super glamorous, layered in make up, hair so sleek you'd think they used a pork chop to comb it! They are superficial and high maintenance, sadly it's a sign of the times with the 'fashion' industry. I dread to think how long the likes of Eva spend in the dressing room. If only Corrie put more focus into rehearsals........no wonder Julie Goodyear was aghast when she returned!

And where has she been living prior to Billy taking her on? Don't get this storyline at all - ridiculous.

Yes I noticed that too, also couldn't see any paint in her hair. And why go round to Ken's with wet hair?