I predict that many areas will still have terrible reception indoors from EE and Three and O2/Vodafone will be the only network providing some level of service.
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Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“I predict that 2016 is the year when that changes in a big way.”
“I predict that 2016 is the year when that changes in a big way.”
I predict that I will be happy to see that!
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“I predict that many areas will still have terrible reception indoors from EE and Three and O2/Vodafone will be the only network providing some level of service.”
“I predict that many areas will still have terrible reception indoors from EE and Three and O2/Vodafone will be the only network providing some level of service.”
The places with no reception on EE/3 also have no reception on o2/voda that I find.
It could be the year of Sky mobile as that is rumoured to arrive
Also how will this play out on demands of the network and priority. We know Tesco is no.2 and rest no.3 at the moment, but are sky going to accept this?
Also how will this play out on demands of the network and priority. We know Tesco is no.2 and rest no.3 at the moment, but are sky going to accept this?
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“I predict that many areas will still have terrible reception indoors from EE and Three and O2/Vodafone will be the only network providing some level of service.”
“I predict that many areas will still have terrible reception indoors from EE and Three and O2/Vodafone will be the only network providing some level of service.”
Funny as most indoor places that have poor indoor signal down this way on EE have WiFi... Hello WiFi calling.... a service that also supports SMS
There are quite a few places in Plymouth that drop to EDGE on Vodafone but have 4-5 bars of EE 4G
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“The places with no reception on EE/3 also have no reception on o2/voda that I find.”
“The places with no reception on EE/3 also have no reception on o2/voda that I find.”
That is true to an extent but in rural areas like here VO2 still are king for actual coverage (2G mostly).
My Devon bunker is only served by one mast (Marley Head on the A38).
It has all services on it. VO2 2G, Three 3G and EE 2G/3G/4G.
Outside my house VO2 is about 3-4 bars 2G. EE2G about 2-3 bars.
EE and Three 3G if you hold the phone in the air.
EE4G if you go up the yard a bit and wave the phone about.
Indoors in the kitchen, no EE or Three of any kind but put a VO2 phone on the table and it'll show 1-2 bars and will ring and you can answer it although it's recommended at that point to run to the back kitchen or go outside for best quality.
When EE roll out 800 assuming 1800 will go up to 2G levels as well, 4G1800 will be available outside and I'm guessing 800 will work in the kitchen.
1. It's 100Mhz lower
2. It's more robust.
Might still drop out a bit but it will be the first time in the history of cellular that a proper call will be able to be made in my kitchen.
I predict that when Vodafone finally get 4G800 here it might work indoors but probably not since it will have to be running lower than 900.
It will be very interesting to see what happens.
I might have a long time to wait though.
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“Funny as most indoor places that have poor indoor signal down this way on EE have WiFi... Hello WiFi calling.... a service that also supports SMS
There are quite a few places in Plymouth that drop to EDGE on Vodafone but have 4-5 bars of EE 4G”
“Funny as most indoor places that have poor indoor signal down this way on EE have WiFi... Hello WiFi calling.... a service that also supports SMS
There are quite a few places in Plymouth that drop to EDGE on Vodafone but have 4-5 bars of EE 4G”
Indeed and in fact I won't be using the 800 even if it does work as I will be on WC.
This is what EE want of course. get as many people off 800 as possible to free up capacity for those that really need it... stranded...... in a ravine.....
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“That is true to an extent but in rural areas like here VO2 still are king for actual coverage (2G mostly).
My Devon bunker is only served by one mast (Marley Head on the A38).
It has all services on it. VO2 2G, Three 3G and EE 2G/3G/4G.
Outside my house VO2 is about 3-4 bars 2G. EE2G about 2-3 bars.
EE and Three 3G if you hold the phone in the air.
EE4G if you go up the yard a bit and wave the phone about.
Indoors in the kitchen, no EE or Three of any kind but put a VO2 phone on the table and it'll show 1-2 bars and will ring and you can answer it although it's recommended at that point to run to the back kitchen or go outside for best quality.
When EE roll out 800 assuming 1800 will go up to 2G levels as well, 4G1800 will be available outside and I'm guessing 800 will work in the kitchen.
1. It's 100Mhz lower
2. It's more robust.
Might still drop out a bit but it will be the first time in the history of cellular that a proper call will be able to be made in my kitchen.
I predict that when Vodafone finally get 4G800 here it might work indoors but probably not since it will have to be running lower than 900.
It will be very interesting to see what happens.
I might have a long time to wait though.”
“That is true to an extent but in rural areas like here VO2 still are king for actual coverage (2G mostly).
My Devon bunker is only served by one mast (Marley Head on the A38).
It has all services on it. VO2 2G, Three 3G and EE 2G/3G/4G.
Outside my house VO2 is about 3-4 bars 2G. EE2G about 2-3 bars.
EE and Three 3G if you hold the phone in the air.
EE4G if you go up the yard a bit and wave the phone about.
Indoors in the kitchen, no EE or Three of any kind but put a VO2 phone on the table and it'll show 1-2 bars and will ring and you can answer it although it's recommended at that point to run to the back kitchen or go outside for best quality.
When EE roll out 800 assuming 1800 will go up to 2G levels as well, 4G1800 will be available outside and I'm guessing 800 will work in the kitchen.
1. It's 100Mhz lower
2. It's more robust.
Might still drop out a bit but it will be the first time in the history of cellular that a proper call will be able to be made in my kitchen.
I predict that when Vodafone finally get 4G800 here it might work indoors but probably not since it will have to be running lower than 900.
It will be very interesting to see what happens.
I might have a long time to wait though.”
But you have a 3G signal box for EE?
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“There are quite a few places in Plymouth that drop to EDGE on Vodafone but have 4-5 bars of EE 4G”
“There are quite a few places in Plymouth that drop to EDGE on Vodafone but have 4-5 bars of EE 4G”
Yeah I don't know if you noticed lately but EE are going bat-shit crazy down here at the mo.
There are engineers hanging out of masts all over the place.
I was in Vue the other day, first day of The Force Awakens, in a VIP seat, screen 9 (obviously) with a JD and coke, 1KG of pick and mix, my beautiful kids all around me and.... AND about 60 meg download.....
YEESSSSS. Welcome to the future I thought to myself.
The kids will have me locked up way before I'm 60!
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“But you have a 3G signal box for EE?”
“But you have a 3G signal box for EE?
”
Yes yes. I also have WC.
I was just making the point that I think that after 20 years of VO2's 900 always being "the best" for coverage, there is about to be a complete reversal of that situation.Because EE will have 800 running at full tilt but VO2 will be power limited.
I may occasionally turn off WiFi and wallow in some 800 loveliness, just to prove a point!!
They won't activate 800 on my mast now!
Hahahaha
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“That is true to an extent but in rural areas like here VO2 still are king for actual coverage (2G mostly).
My Devon bunker is only served by one mast (Marley Head on the A38).
It has all services on it. VO2 2G, Three 3G and EE 2G/3G/4G.
Outside my house VO2 is about 3-4 bars 2G. EE2G about 2-3 bars.
EE and Three 3G if you hold the phone in the air.
EE4G if you go up the yard a bit and wave the phone about.
Indoors in the kitchen, no EE or Three of any kind but put a VO2 phone on the table and it'll show 1-2 bars and will ring and you can answer it although it's recommended at that point to run to the back kitchen or go outside for best quality.
When EE roll out 800 assuming 1800 will go up to 2G levels as well, 4G1800 will be available outside and I'm guessing 800 will work in the kitchen.
1. It's 100Mhz lower
2. It's more robust.
Might still drop out a bit but it will be the first time in the history of cellular that a proper call will be able to be made in my kitchen.
I predict that when Vodafone finally get 4G800 here it might work indoors but probably not since it will have to be running lower than 900.
It will be very interesting to see what happens.
I might have a long time to wait though.”
“That is true to an extent but in rural areas like here VO2 still are king for actual coverage (2G mostly).
My Devon bunker is only served by one mast (Marley Head on the A38).
It has all services on it. VO2 2G, Three 3G and EE 2G/3G/4G.
Outside my house VO2 is about 3-4 bars 2G. EE2G about 2-3 bars.
EE and Three 3G if you hold the phone in the air.
EE4G if you go up the yard a bit and wave the phone about.
Indoors in the kitchen, no EE or Three of any kind but put a VO2 phone on the table and it'll show 1-2 bars and will ring and you can answer it although it's recommended at that point to run to the back kitchen or go outside for best quality.
When EE roll out 800 assuming 1800 will go up to 2G levels as well, 4G1800 will be available outside and I'm guessing 800 will work in the kitchen.
1. It's 100Mhz lower
2. It's more robust.
Might still drop out a bit but it will be the first time in the history of cellular that a proper call will be able to be made in my kitchen.
I predict that when Vodafone finally get 4G800 here it might work indoors but probably not since it will have to be running lower than 900.
It will be very interesting to see what happens.
I might have a long time to wait though.”
Considering that VO2 have not considered Beacon Hill worth doing yet, I suspect Marley Head is way, way down the order. Shame. Shame on them. Pathetic. Utter rubbish.
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“The places with no reception on EE/3 also have no reception on o2/voda that I find.”
“The places with no reception on EE/3 also have no reception on o2/voda that I find.”
Never find that myself to be honest. I very rarely have no signal at all on O2 but I often have a weak signal on Three/EE, or no signal at all.
It's only in a few distinct areas but these areas have been the same for years and years and they're places I go a lot so I'll keep my O2 SIM around until EE/Three can match the coverage O2 provides.
You can't make the full change to EE until you get an iPhone and join the dark side....
Sorry, I'll get my coat.....
Sorry, I'll get my coat.....
Originally Posted by Stereo Steve:
“Considering that VO2 have not considered Beacon Hill worth doing yet, I suspect Marley Head is way, way down the order. Shame. Shame on them. Pathetic. Utter rubbish.”
“Considering that VO2 have not considered Beacon Hill worth doing yet, I suspect Marley Head is way, way down the order. Shame. Shame on them. Pathetic. Utter rubbish.”
God, I just checked O2 for Marldon and no 3G!!!! WTF???
A major major transmitter. NO 3G??
Better still Vodafone no 3G but hey look, our 3G is really 2G.
Planned coverage? NO 3G???? or 4G or anything.
Just what is that all about?
They are run by morons aren't they?
What other explanation is there?
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“Yeah I don't know if you noticed lately but EE are going bat-shit crazy down here at the mo.
There are engineers hanging out of masts all over the place.
I was in Vue the other day, first day of The Force Awakens, in a VIP seat, screen 9 (obviously) with a JD and coke, 1KG of pick and mix, my beautiful kids all around me and.... AND about 60 meg download.....
YEESSSSS. Welcome to the future I thought to myself.
The kids will have me locked up way before I'm 60!
”
“Yeah I don't know if you noticed lately but EE are going bat-shit crazy down here at the mo.
There are engineers hanging out of masts all over the place.
I was in Vue the other day, first day of The Force Awakens, in a VIP seat, screen 9 (obviously) with a JD and coke, 1KG of pick and mix, my beautiful kids all around me and.... AND about 60 meg download.....
YEESSSSS. Welcome to the future I thought to myself.
The kids will have me locked up way before I'm 60!
”
As soon as we got the emergency services contract that starts in Feb 2017, our engineers have been in overdrive. They need to get rural areas covered - and fast. Hence the work you see down here.
Expect a huge rollout in 4G coverage in 2016. And I mean HUGE. By this day next year you'll be amazed.
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“As soon as we got the emergency services contract that starts in Feb 2017, our engineers have been in overdrive. They need to get rural areas covered - and fast. Hence the work you see down here.
Expect a huge rollout in 4G coverage in 2016. And I mean HUGE. By this day next year you'll be amazed.”
“As soon as we got the emergency services contract that starts in Feb 2017, our engineers have been in overdrive. They need to get rural areas covered - and fast. Hence the work you see down here.
Expect a huge rollout in 4G coverage in 2016. And I mean HUGE. By this day next year you'll be amazed.”
Yes and I think 3800+ 800 masts is an estimation or a start.
I think there will be more.
Frankly if every EE mast had 1800 running at max power it would be pretty amazing.
As I have said a few times, 3G has masked how good 1800 is. Even just orange or TM on their own.
But we have never experienced a full power combined TM and Orange 1800 network before and when it happens it will be awesome.
Add the 800 sites in and I think personally down here coverage will be approaching blanket to all intents and purposes.
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“God, I just checked O2 for Marldon and no 3G!!!! WTF???
A major major transmitter. NO 3G??
Better still Vodafone no 3G but hey look, our 3G is really 2G.
Planned coverage? NO 3G???? or 4G or anything.
Just what is that all about?
They are run by morons aren't they?
What other explanation is there?”
“God, I just checked O2 for Marldon and no 3G!!!! WTF???
A major major transmitter. NO 3G??
Better still Vodafone no 3G but hey look, our 3G is really 2G.
Planned coverage? NO 3G???? or 4G or anything.
Just what is that all about?
They are run by morons aren't they?
What other explanation is there?”
Indeed. How much ground would that bad boy cover? They surely can't complain about access or backhaul. It must be ducted to everywhere. It's a TV and radio mast. Loads of fibre going in there and not difficult to add a bit more. The fact that VO2 have not done Beacon Hill tells me all I need to know about their roll out plans. Same old same old. Fail.
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“If they move to VO2 there's going to be an awful lot of shit hit a big fan when half the VM population wake up to 2G only!”
“If they move to VO2 there's going to be an awful lot of shit hit a big fan when half the VM population wake up to 2G only!”
It would cause a lot of uphieval as well where those topped up each month to receive 3GB of data but not used up any of their top up credit would need to use all their credit or lose it before a certain date while Virgin switch networks.
Just hope Virgin never switch to using the vodafone network.
Originally Posted by Stereo Steve:
“BT will buy EE and remove 3G and 4G coverage from any property which currently doesn't have fibre as we clearly don't need any sort of decent data service or we would have moved by now.”
“BT will buy EE and remove 3G and 4G coverage from any property which currently doesn't have fibre as we clearly don't need any sort of decent data service or we would have moved by now.”
BT are anti competitive by name, anti competitive by nature.
I notice there's a vacancy for CEO at Openreach.
Swantee anyone?
If he moved there and got Snook back to run EE (assuming he hasn't died from chain smoking or excessive colonic irrigation) , then we'd be getting somewhere.
100% mobile, 100% fibre.
Job done!
hahahahahaha
Swantee anyone?
If he moved there and got Snook back to run EE (assuming he hasn't died from chain smoking or excessive colonic irrigation) , then we'd be getting somewhere.
100% mobile, 100% fibre.
Job done!
hahahahahaha
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“As soon as we got the emergency services contract that starts in Feb 2017, our engineers have been in overdrive. They need to get rural areas covered - and fast. Hence the work you see down here.
Expect a huge rollout in 4G coverage in 2016. And I mean HUGE. By this day next year you'll be amazed.”
“As soon as we got the emergency services contract that starts in Feb 2017, our engineers have been in overdrive. They need to get rural areas covered - and fast. Hence the work you see down here.
Expect a huge rollout in 4G coverage in 2016. And I mean HUGE. By this day next year you'll be amazed.”
Are they basically going to attempt to do the next two years work (90% geo by 2017 etc...) in the next 12-14 months?
That's what it sounds like.
At a kind of rough calculation of land mass and counties I should imagine that most of the major macro (sectored) sites in Devon will go 800 due to the geography. Cornwall too.
With 1800 at high power and 800 widespread it'll be bonkers.
Proper usable signal (4G as well) in the Pub, for the first time in 20 years.
Awesome!
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“If he moved there and got Snook back to run EE (assuming he hasn't died from chain smoking or excessive colonic irrigation) , then we'd be getting somewhere.”
“If he moved there and got Snook back to run EE (assuming he hasn't died from chain smoking or excessive colonic irrigation) , then we'd be getting somewhere.”
According to Wikipedia he's running some health shops and is on the board of a Thai mobile company. Wonder if you could get him to give up Thailand and return to the famously sunny United Kingdom?
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“Are they basically going to attempt to do the next two years work (90% geo by 2017 etc...) in the next 12-14 months?
That's what it sounds like.
At a kind of rough calculation of land mass and counties I should imagine that most of the major macro (sectored) sites in Devon will go 800 due to the geography. Cornwall too.
With 1800 at high power and 800 widespread it'll be bonkers.
Proper usable signal (4G as well) in the Pub, for the first time in 20 years.
Awesome!
”
“Are they basically going to attempt to do the next two years work (90% geo by 2017 etc...) in the next 12-14 months?
That's what it sounds like.
At a kind of rough calculation of land mass and counties I should imagine that most of the major macro (sectored) sites in Devon will go 800 due to the geography. Cornwall too.
With 1800 at high power and 800 widespread it'll be bonkers.
Proper usable signal (4G as well) in the Pub, for the first time in 20 years.
Awesome!
”
The Landlord to cheap have Free WiFi for you regulars?
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