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Confused DS posters
I notice a frequent thing on these boards where posters seem to get confused.
Its ok to dislike a character in a soap. Some of them do despicable and redeemable things. Ronnie gets a hard time on here for the baby snatch etc. But why on EARTH would you call for these characters to go? They are the foundation of the entertainment. Its ok i get that you would want nothing to do with them in real life but Eastenders needs the villains. Jane Beale is a fascinating character, she did a terrible thing out of desperation to protect her child. THAT is what we are here for. The complex characters. Why keep saying things like 'she's evil she needs to go' NO we need characters like that |
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I admit I want rapist Dean gone. The actor is doing a great job though in making me hate Dean. Then there are other characters I want gone as the actors and actress are terrible. Shane Richie and the Alfie cheeky chappy routine is unbearable. Antony Cotton as Sean Tully is unbearable. Letitia Dean as Sharon in Eastenders is unbearable. OK it's not actual pain but yeah they're painfully bad at acting.
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Gone are the days when people just sit and enjoy the show for what it is.
It's a soap A bit of escapism |
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Agreed. A lot of people on here and on the Eastenders Facebook page call for great characters (especially the villains) to be axed or killed off. The show would be boring without Ronnie, Jane, Phil ect.
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Agreed. A lot of people on here and on the Eastenders Facebook page call for great characters (especially the villains) to be axed or killed off. The show would be boring without Ronnie, Jane, Phil ect.
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No confusion here.
People like Ross Barton and Robert Sugden get on my wick and I was happy when Ross 'died'... unfortunately, it wasn't for long. I understand where you're coming from - I absolutely adore Charity Dingle, my favourite character probably ever in soap, and she's no saint, but we don't all have the same tastes nor do we have the same ideas of who or what makes a decent/interesting character. I generally love the more innocent, kinder characters. People like Victoria, Kirin and Vanessa are much more watchable because they're relatable. They're not constantly plotting or always making snide remarks, they're much more like a real human being. With the exception of Charity, I much prefer those types of characters over the "entertaining" ones any day. I'm sick and tired of everyone murdering and raping one another (and getting away with it). I'm sick and tired of everyone having absolutely no loyalty or compassion as they sleep around. I'm sick and tired of everyone having absolutely no morals whatsoever. It isn't entertaining, and those sort of characters can do one. Time the crew got off their arses and earned their wages instead of relying on these lazy plots all the time. |
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No confusion here.
People like Ross Barton and Robert Sugden get on my wick and I was happy when Ross 'died'... unfortunately, it wasn't for long.I understand where you're coming from - I absolutely adore Charity Dingle, my favourite character probably ever in soap, and she's no saint, but we don't all have the same tastes nor do we have the same ideas of who or what makes a decent/interesting character. I generally love the more innocent, kinder characters. People like Victoria, Kirin and Vanessa are much more watchable because they're relatable. They're not constantly plotting or always making snide remarks, they're much more like a real human being. With the exception of Charity, I much prefer those types of characters over the "entertaining" ones any day. I'm sick and tired of everyone murdering and raping one another (and getting away with it). I'm sick and tired of everyone having absolutely no loyalty or compassion as they sleep around. I'm sick and tired of everyone having absolutely no morals whatsoever. It isn't entertaining, and those sort of characters can do one. Time the crew got off their arses and earned their wages instead of relying on these lazy plots all the time. |
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It's not confusion but taste in which we all differ. I bet even the OP wants someone to go that others do not. As for villains the trouble in soaps now, particularly EE is that everyone is one. Who'd have though Jane would be a villain
![]() I think people just want to see people actually punished for their crimes which is fair enough to me. |
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I'm not sure it's confusion as much as wanting to see the character get their comeuppance, whether that means the character is written out permanently or temporarily is up to writers.
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It's not confusion but taste in which we all differ. I bet even the OP wants someone to go that others do not. As for villains the trouble in soaps now, particularly EE is that everyone is one. Who'd have though Jane would be a villain
![]() I think people just want to see people actually punished for their crimes which is fair enough to me. BIB 2 Personally I like seeing some characters like Ross Barton getting away with their crimes. I root for Ross when he's up to no good!
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I love Ross Barton and Robert Sugden. I agree that Charity is brilliant though. I do prefer the more criminally minded characters in Emmerdale over the "kinder" (boring) characters. I find Victoria just so yawn boring. Kirin and Vanessa are OK but there is Rakesh being bad that makes those two more interesting plus Adam thinking the kid is his.
The Bernice/Lawrence plot has been fantastic. The run up to the wedding/Bernice sleeping with Andy was excellently written. At first I was rolling my eyes that another character had cheated on her partner, but Chrissie telling her father immediately (i.e. not dragging it out) and the heartbreaking scenes that followed were brilliant. That sort of writing made me care for all the characters involved - Andy, Lawrence, Chrissie and Bernice. I could see all their view points clearly and it all made sense. If they made that sort of effort with every character and storyline, then those 'boring' characters would stop being neglected and maybe wouldn't be so boring anymore. I love a good bad boy/bitch as much as anyone, but when a good chunk of the cast is supposedly one, they all sort of just merge into one and overpower the show and it's just such a lazy route for the producers to take. |
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I'm not sure it's confusion as much as wanting to see the character get their comeuppance, whether that means the character is written out permanently or temporarily is up to writers.
As for the soaps I think if a criminal is charming, funny, charismatic and hot like Ross or Charity in Emmerdale people will root for the characters even if they are criminals. If they're made to look creepy like Dean in Eastenders people will really hate them. I think Jane Beale is a great character and I'll be sorry to see her go. Yes she did something very bad but I think a lot of parents would empathise with Jane and root for her. |
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I notice a frequent thing on these boards where posters seem to get confused.
Its ok to dislike a character in a soap. Some of them do despicable and redeemable things. Ronnie gets a hard time on here for the baby snatch etc. But why on EARTH would you call for these characters to go? They are the foundation of the entertainment. Its ok i get that you would want nothing to do with them in real life but Eastenders needs the villains. Jane Beale is a fascinating character, she did a terrible thing out of desperation to protect her child. THAT is what we are here for. The complex characters. Why keep saying things like 'she's evil she needs to go' NO we need characters like that |
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I love Ross Barton and Robert Sugden. I agree that Charity is brilliant though. I do prefer the more criminally minded characters in Emmerdale over the "kinder" (boring) characters. I find Victoria just so yawn boring. Kirin and Vanessa are OK but there is Rakesh being bad that makes those two more interesting plus Adam thinking the kid is his.
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BIB 1 Yes, this is true. I'm not confused. I like what I like and that's just me and my taste.
BIB 2 Personally I like seeing some characters like Ross Barton getting away with their crimes. I root for Ross when he's up to no good! ![]()
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Fair enough, however I think arguably, a character like Ross Barton is boring because he is one dimensional in the sense that he can only really get involved in petty crimes again and again with no real depth to his character. The quicker he leaves the better
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I hate it when posters try and take the moral highground when it comes to characters like Deano and demand he goes but when "legends" like Phil are behaving in a scumbag manner it's all good. Phil is past it, finished, a joke and deserves to go. Up and coming characters deserve more of a chance.
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I hate it when posters try and take the moral highground when it comes to characters like Deano and demand he goes but when "legends" like Phil are behaving in a scumbag manner it's all good. Phil is past it, finished, a joke and deserves to go. Up and coming characters deserve more of a chance.
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I hate it when posters try and take the moral highground when it comes to characters like Deano and demand he goes but when "legends" like Phil are behaving in a scumbag manner it's all good. Phil is past it, finished, a joke and deserves to go. Up and coming characters deserve more of a chance.
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For some characters like rapist Dean on EE then yes I want his comeuppance and I want to see the back of his creepy ass. I agree too that we're not confused. To tell other people they are "confused" because they want characters they hate gone is a bit condescending. If I'm watching a gory film about a dad tearing a man who raped his daughter limb from limb then I'm glad the rapist gets killed in such a barbaric way. However I would root for the dad even if he is very violent and would want him to have a happy ending living a peaceful life with his family in the countryside near the sea
As for the soaps I think if a criminal is charming, funny, charismatic and hot like Ross or Charity in Emmerdale people will root for the characters even if they are criminals. If they're made to look creepy like Dean in Eastenders people will really hate them. I think Jane Beale is a great character and I'll be sorry to see her go. Yes she did something very bad but I think a lot of parents would empathise with Jane and root for her. I agree about Dean. It's beyond time he got his comeuppance. |
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I hate it when posters try and take the moral highground when it comes to characters like Deano and demand he goes but when "legends" like Phil are behaving in a scumbag manner it's all good. Phil is past it, finished, a joke and deserves to go. Up and coming characters deserve more of a chance.
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I love a badass & a villain as much as anybody but there needs to be layers to them & more than one facet to their character if they are going to be long term characters!! One of the most boring characters in soap to me is Tracy Barlow simply because she is so utterly one dimensional!!
I would happily lose her from Corrie tomorrow & replace her with a more rounded & interesting 'villainess'!!!! |
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I see DTC has got himself an alias
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And yet they bring in amazing new villains like Claudette and people are calling for her To go because she's nasty
Such an unlikely villainess. I hope she stays for a long time.
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I notice a frequent thing on these boards where posters seem to get confused.
Its ok to dislike a character in a soap. Some of them do despicable and redeemable things. Ronnie gets a hard time on here for the baby snatch etc. But why on EARTH would you call for these characters to go? They are the foundation of the entertainment. Its ok i get that you would want nothing to do with them in real life but Eastenders needs the villains. Jane Beale is a fascinating character, she did a terrible thing out of desperation to protect her child. THAT is what we are here for. The complex characters. Why keep saying things like 'she's evil she needs to go' NO we need characters like that Exactly. That's why I like Neighbours, because they recognise the importance of having a villain. Paul Robinson for example has a nasty streak and is one of Neighbour's central characters. |
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