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Old 26-12-2015, 21:25
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First of all, may I say Claudette has been the most fascinating new character to go into show. What a twisted, crazy woman she is underneath that warm, bubbly, ultra smooth persona she puts across. Like how understanding and supportive she was of Les' alter ego Christine.

Now I get what Aunt Sal meant when she said her true colours are bad. Her relationship with Vincent is manipulative and self-serving. She made him into the thug he is today using his dad's death as the device to spur him on. But this what is interesting. She occasionally slips up her story about his dad's death which Vincent noticed tonight but she rebuked that and he automatically accepted it probably cause she is his mum.

I have a feeling that Claudette murdered her husband because he was a weak man probably not herself by a hitman or some sorts while she was having an affair with Eric and probably annoyed when Eric wouldn't leave Peggy for her.

Also even though, she is so passionate about getting revenge on the Mitchells for her husband's death. It isn't about him at all, it is about how Eric rejected her and it is still making her bitter to this day.

I'm excited to see this character develop in 2016. So glad Ellen Thomas has been given a character so complex to play.
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:31
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I think she paid a Mitchell to kill her husband and he either took the money and didn't do the job or told her husband so she killed him herself.

She is deliciously devious, I am loving the character. I do feel sad for Fatboy caught up in their games though and Claudette as as much blood on her hands as Ronnie does
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:32
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That's an interesting theory.
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:33
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Absolutely love this character

What a complex and twisted woman

She eats up the scenery.
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:33
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I agree, I'm quite intrigued by Claudette. I like the way she spins and is manipulating everything. It keeps the storyline ticking along nicely....!
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:37
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The only manipulators are the fans coming with these crazy theories in attempt to take the heat off the thuggish Mitchells. No doubt the spinless writers of the show will comply though and Phil will win again.
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:39
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The only manipulators are the fans coming with these crazy theories in attempt to take the heat off the thuggish Mitchells. No doubt the spinless writers of the show will comply though and Phil will win again.
I'm getting a bit frustrated by people wanting highly watchable characters to be written out

Phil IS Eastenders
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:42
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She's a manipulator for sure in some ways and very driven because of her grudge but not a master manipulator for the simple reason she still hasn't after all these years achieved her main goal and passion of taking down the Mitchells.
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:43
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The only manipulators are the fans coming with these crazy theories in attempt to take the heat off the thuggish Mitchells. No doubt the spinless writers of the show will comply though and Phil will win again.
How does any of the actions of another character take the heat off the Mitchells? Other people being bad doesn't make them less bad.
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:45
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Convinced she killed her husband
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:47
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I'm getting a bit frustrated by people wanting highly watchable characters to be written out

Phil IS Eastenders
Phil is finished. A few years ago I would have agreed with you, but hiis legacy shouldn't be able to save him anymore for me. It's getting beyond insane how he keeps on winning, keeps on "owning" these young guys. I burst out laughing when the doctor told him he didn't have much time left. As if these spineless morons would ever kill him off.

How does any of the actions of another character take the heat off the Mitchells? Other people being bad doesn't make them less bad.
True but it did sound pretty good when I typed it
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:48
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Phil is finished. A few years ago I would have agreed with you, but hiis legacy shouldn't be able to save him anymore for me. It's getting beyond insane how he keeps on winning, keeps on "owning" these young guys.



True but it did sound pretty good when I typed it
So we write out a legacy character because you don't like him?

What an idiotic thing to suggest
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:51
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So we write out a legacy character because you don't like him?

What an idiotic thing to suggest
Because the character has become a joke. The writers have ruined him and are ruining other characters at the expense of keeping him on. How can people not see that?
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:54
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Convinced she killed her husband
That or he's still alive.
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:54
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tell you what though the poor woman must walk round with a bad back
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Old 26-12-2015, 21:56
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Because the character has become a joke. The writers have ruined him and are ruining other characters at the expense of keeping him on. How can people not see that?
How are they ruining him?

This has always been Phil

He's always come out on top. It's why he's so loved

We want drama and secrets and murders because they're interesting.

We moan when there aren't any dramatic episodes and we moan when there are
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Old 26-12-2015, 22:02
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First of all, may I say Claudette has been the most fascinating new character to go into show. What a twisted, crazy woman she is underneath that warm, bubbly, ultra smooth persona she puts across. Like how understanding and supportive she was of Les' alter ego Christine.

Now I get what Aunt Sal meant when she said her true colours are bad. Her relationship with Vincent is manipulative and self-serving. She made him into the thug he is today using his dad's death as the device to spur him on. But this what is interesting. She occasionally slips up her story about his dad's death which Vincent noticed tonight but she rebuked that and he automatically accepted it probably cause she is his mum.

I have a feeling that Claudette murdered her husband because he was a weak man probably not herself by a hitman or some sorts while she was having an affair with Eric and probably annoyed when Eric wouldn't leave Peggy for her.

Also even though, she is so passionate about getting revenge on the Mitchells for her husband's death. It isn't about him at all, it is about how Eric rejected her and it is still making her bitter to this day.

I'm excited to see this character develop in 2016. So glad Ellen Thomas has been given a character so complex to play.
I don't think daddy hubbard is dead . I think he is alive and thriving somewhere else . I think he did a runner from claudette because either she was cuckolding him , or was doing his head in .
Sal sure as hell knew her and she knew sal . Maybe she was the local bike (sorry to be so graphic) and mr hubbard couldn't take it any more .
I'm tellin' ya, there's a stash of letters to little boy vincent from his daddy hidden somewhere in walford . You read it here first .
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Old 26-12-2015, 22:07
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They need to write her a bit better, she came out with some right clangers tonight. Especially that line about "that fateful night." But I agree she's an interesting character and very well acted.
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Old 26-12-2015, 22:56
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The only manipulators are the fans coming with these crazy theories in attempt to take the heat off the thuggish Mitchells. No doubt the spinless writers of the show will comply though and Phil will win again.
The Mitchells are here to stay. Get used to it.
And its not crazy theories if you actually follow the story you will know Claudette was behind Fatboy's death. Ronnie and Vincent were the pawns in her bid to continue the feud with Phil.
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Old 26-12-2015, 22:59
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Still think Claudette is brilliant to watch. She's such a manipulator
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Old 26-12-2015, 23:05
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She is a strong character played by a good Actress.

Hard to believe she was Grace Olunmbi in the same show!
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Old 26-12-2015, 23:23
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I can't stand her!!
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Old 26-12-2015, 23:25
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I never really got why Vincent wanted to kill Phil. I mean it was Eric who killed his Dad and not Phil, but its clear in tonights episode he does not want to kill Phil for himself, but for his mother.
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Old 26-12-2015, 23:28
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She's quite a fantastic bitch, isn't she. Really starting to enjoy this character now.
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Old 27-12-2015, 00:04
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What's so interesting about her is this very clear split in her personality - she has a brutal, cruel, evil streak up there with anyone, but on the other side she is this amazing, compassionate woman, who has been amazing with foster kids, and with her friends...it's really interesting to see a villain that is so faceted and multi-dimensional.

What she did to Fatboy was beyond anything I ever thought she'd be capable of though.
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