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Old 26-12-2015, 23:24
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Did Claudette manipulate Fatboy so that he was in Vincent's place? The insinuation was that she saw Ronnie make a call and saw the ice, she then must have told Vincent she would get the ice. Did she then ask Fatboy to get the ice instead as she thought something was going to happen?. She was very conveniently away for the night as well? Did she in fact set Fatboy up for a fall, she is one cold biach!!
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Old 26-12-2015, 23:25
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Yes, that's how I saw it.
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Old 26-12-2015, 23:31
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I don't think there was any manipulation of Fatboy involved, I think she out and out set him up...after the way he left, there was zero percent chance that he was going to do any favours for Vincent or Claudette. I think she knew he was a way to ignite the feud between the Mitchells and Vincent, and like the cold blooded, effective cow that she is, she decided he was expendable and set the goons on him and paid them off. I do think that Ronnie was telling the truth about never intending to kill Vincent, but I think Claudette has no issue with a wee bit of bloodshed.

I really felt sorry for Vincent tonight, but I think he's starting to realise that his mother is deranged.
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Old 26-12-2015, 23:38
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I don't think there was any manipulation of Fatboy involved, I think she out and out set him up...after the way he left, there was zero percent chance that he was going to do any favours for Vincent or Claudette. I think she knew he was a way to ignite the feud between the Mitchells and Vincent, and like the cold blooded, effective cow that she is, she decided he was expendable and set the goons on him and paid them off. I do think that Ronnie was telling the truth about never intending to kill Vincent, but I think Claudette has no issue with a wee bit of bloodshed.

I really felt sorry for Vincent tonight, but I think he's starting to realise that his mother is deranged.
I've just watched tonight's ep this is exactly how I saw it, oh she is evil poor Fats and Vincent I am pleased Vincent is realising what she is really like.
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Old 27-12-2015, 00:01
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Oh definitely Claudette must know more than she's letting on.
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Old 27-12-2015, 00:16
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I don't think there was any manipulation of Fatboy involved, I think she out and out set him up...after the way he left, there was zero percent chance that he was going to do any favours for Vincent or Claudette. I think she knew he was a way to ignite the feud between the Mitchells and Vincent, and like the cold blooded, effective cow that she is, she decided he was expendable and set the goons on him and paid them off. I do think that Ronnie was telling the truth about never intending to kill Vincent, but I think Claudette has no issue with a wee bit of bloodshed.

I really felt sorry for Vincent tonight, but I think he's starting to realise that his mother is deranged.
She is one scary woman and I am sure she offed her husband as well , what will Vincent do when he realises this?
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Old 27-12-2015, 00:25
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Ahh for crying out loud not another one. The Mitchells killed him. No one else.
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Old 27-12-2015, 00:29
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Claudette had to kill Fatboy as he recognised her as Mrs Olubunmi , his mother in law.
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Old 27-12-2015, 00:35
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Who would we say is to blame then Ronnie or Claudette
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Old 27-12-2015, 00:43
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Who would we say is to blame then Ronnie or Claudette
For me I think that Ronnie intended to scare him (Vincent) not kill him, I think Claudette has alot to answer for as she was the one egging everyone on and she also could have stopped this at any time but chose not to, including deliberately setting up an innocent patsy and I think she the guys to do more. For me she is more guilty or perhaps it is also the fact that she doesn't seem to care he is dead and Ronnie was mortified that she might have killed anyone.
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Old 27-12-2015, 00:56
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Who would we say is to blame then Ronnie or Claudette
Claudette, Ronnie wanted to scare Vincent not kill him.
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Old 27-12-2015, 03:00
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There is no evidence to say that Ron did not want to kill whoever was in the boot, she went to the Arches to taunt V, & then the car got towed on a holiday. They don't tow cars on holidays unless they are paid & also a bit (a lot) dodgy. So she knew what she was doing.
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Old 27-12-2015, 03:18
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Claudette had to kill Fatboy as he recognised her as Mrs Olubunmi , his mother in law.
Strange to think the same actress who played that character is partly responsible for Twatboy's death
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Old 27-12-2015, 03:23
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There is no evidence to say that Ron did not want to kill whoever was in the boot, she went to the Arches to taunt V, & then the car got towed on a holiday. They don't tow cars on holidays unless they are paid & also a bit (a lot) dodgy. So she knew what she was doing.
Ronnie said the car was never meant to go to the scrapyard, presumably Claudette sorted this part out.
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Old 27-12-2015, 03:35
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This is my theory.

It was a dark night. Fatboy was waiting for a train at walford station heading off to his dad. Then he shouted sod it and ran back into walford square. He could see Claudette struggling with two big geezers and got scared. He saw that the boot of Vincent's car was open so thought he would hide there until the coast was clear. Claudette escapes and decides to go somewhere for the rest of the evening and most of Christmas day because she is scared. The two big geezers shut the boot locking fatboy inside they then move Vincent's car into the arches.

Fatboy is terrified and tries to strangle himself with his bare hands. This is when Ronnie appears and hears Fatboy struggling to strangle him self, but Ronnie believes he is Vincent. Later the two geezers take the car to the car crusher. This is when Vincent arrives having run all the way from Walford square. Vincent opens the boot and sees that Fatboy has strangled himself to death. Vincent is extremely shocked. Vincent is so shocked he grabs Fatboys necklace and then crushes the car with his bare hands. When Ronnie arrives he tells her there was no-one in the car because he doesn't want to upset her and make her cry.
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Old 27-12-2015, 03:48
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This is my theory.

It was a dark night. Fatboy was waiting for a train at walford station heading off to his dad. Then he shouted sod it and ran back into walford square. He could see Claudette struggling with two big geezers and got scared. He saw that the boot of Vincent's car was open so thought he would hide there until the coast was clear. Claudette escapes and decides to go somewhere for the rest of the evening and most of Christmas day because she is scared. The two big geezers shut the boot locking fatboy inside they then move Vincent's car into the arches.

Fatboy is terrified and tries to strangle himself with his bare hands. This is when Ronnie appears and hears Fatboy struggling to strangle him self, but Ronnie believes he is Vincent. Later the two geezers take the car to the car crusher. This is when Vincent arrives having run all the way from Walford square. Vincent opens the boot and sees that Fatboy has strangled himself to death. Vincent is extremely shocked. Vincent is so shocked he grabs Fatboys necklace and then crushes the car with his bare hands. When Ronnie arrives he tells her there was no-one in the car because he doesn't want to upset her and make her cry.
What the ****?
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Old 27-12-2015, 10:45
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There is no evidence to say that Ron did not want to kill whoever was in the boot, she went to the Arches to taunt V, & then the car got towed on a holiday. They don't tow cars on holidays unless they are paid & also a bit (a lot) dodgy. So she knew what she was doing.
She ran to the Arches when she realised it wasn't Vincent in the boot - she didn't think the car wouldn't be there. She had no intention of the car really being crushed.
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Old 27-12-2015, 10:49
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Did Claudette manipulate Fatboy so that he was in Vincent's place? The insinuation was that she saw Ronnie make a call and saw the ice, she then must have told Vincent she would get the ice. Did she then ask Fatboy to get the ice instead as she thought something was going to happen?. She was very conveniently away for the night as well? Did she in fact set Fatboy up for a fall, she is one cold biach!!

That could be, I hadn't seen it that way. What makes me mad though, if she has all this anger, and she loves her Son.......why put him in the firing line, why hasn't she done something hereself if she is that fired up about it. Manipulation taken to the extreme. Can't understand why Vincent didn't tell Ronnie that she had murdered Fatboy......very strange.
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Old 27-12-2015, 11:13
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Didn't Vincent realise his car wasn't in front of his house on Christmas Day?
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Old 27-12-2015, 11:37
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Didn't Vincent realise his car wasn't in front of his house on Christmas Day?
He thought Claudette had it, which is why he originally thought she was the one in the boot when he realised what Ronnie had done.
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Old 27-12-2015, 11:42
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He thought Claudette had it, which is why he originally thought she was the one in the boot when he realised what Ronnie had done.
Thanks shrinkingviolet. For all its faults atm Vincent and Claudette seem to have everyone talking. I really can't stand Claudette and her portrayal. I can understand people are enjoying it though.
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Old 27-12-2015, 12:32
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I wonder when the Storyline will pop up again.
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