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Old 27-12-2015, 03:31
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What were you hoping for in the Christmas Episode of Eastenders?

I thought/hoped that Bobby and Denny would actually be involved in a scene together (The promos pointed toward it) I thought that there would be a confrontation between the two boys that would lead to Bobby deliberately and seriously injuring Denny.

I'm interested to know what other people were hoping would happen.
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Old 27-12-2015, 04:14
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I suppose a bit of clarity ... something that made sense.

But DTC has made everything a lot more murkier with the existing storylines and thrown in a whole new set of storylines at us to 1) distract us from dodgy storyline twists from elsewhere and 2) to storyblock other storylines that would otherwise reach a conclusion - such as the Shabnam - Kush - Carmel - Stacey storyline, with Stacey now
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I mean what was the point of getting rid of Fatboy and the contortions DTC had to get his scriptwriters to go through to throw people off the scent that is was Fatboy that would end up dead while making us think Vincent then Claudette then Dennis then Phil then whoever may be the one that died on Christmas Day. It was DTC himself that said a character would die on Christmas Day in order to drum up viewers. The point had nothing to do with character development and everything to do with creating a "who gets killed" story.

It is also becoming clear that the Bobby - Lucy storyline has become so convoluted that it is going to be apparently impossible to have Bobby be taken to the police - because they would have to lock up half the square for perjury and lying to police. It looks like Bobby is going to be sent away to boarding school.

Ps: Perhaps they will send him to Ireland where Charlie Cotton is hiding. New Zealand, Germany and Pakistan are other destinations they send EE characters off to or maybe they will give him a motorised scooter so that he could join up with Carol to travel the world.
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Old 27-12-2015, 04:25
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I suppose a bit of clarity ... something that made sense.

But DTC has made everything a lot more murkier with the existing storylines and thrown in a whole new set of storylines at us to 1) distract us from dodgy storyline twists from elsewhere and 2) to storyblock other storylines that would otherwise reach a conclusion - such as the Shabnam - Kush - Carmel - Stacey storyline, with Stacey now
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I mean what was the point of getting rid of Fatboy and the contortions DTC had to get his scriptwriters to go through to throw people off the scent that is was Fatboy that would end up dead while making us think Vincent then Claudette then Dennis then Phil then whoever may be the one that died on Christmas Day. It was DTC himself that said a character would die on Christmas Day in order to drum up viewers.

It is also becoming clear that the Bobby - Lucy storyline has become so convoluted that is going to be apparently impossible to have Bobby be taken to the police - because they would have to lock up half the square for perjury and lying to police. It looks like Bobby is going to be sent away to boarding school.
Terrible idea Ian and Jane.

They know he's violent, they know he has murdered. They now know he is fully aware that he's done this and that Jane moved her body to the woods.

They think that this child is best sent to a boarding school, to people who have no idea how much a nutter he is, where he will have access to younger children, who are going to be in danger of his violent outbursts.

He could reveal to anybody at any time the events of April 2014, why are they thinking boarding school is a good idea?
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Old 27-12-2015, 04:30
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Terrible idea Ian and Jane.

They know he's violent, they know he has murdered. They now know he is fully aware that he's done this and that Jane moved her body to the woods.

They think that this child is best sent to a boarding school, to people who have no idea how much a nutter he is, where he will have access to younger children, who are going to be in danger of his violent outbursts.

He could reveal to anybody at any time the events of April 2014, why are they thinking boarding school is a good idea?
I don't think we have to think what the characters themselves think - we have to get into the mind of DTC as he tries to work out a satisfactory path out of the now convoluted storyline mess which involves half of the square. The storyline has served DTC well it is all part of a continuation of the Lucy Murder storyline which was his big idea and created multiple duf duf duf moments. I am sure he got this job by selling the Lucy Murder storyline idea and it has run and run and taken on a life of its own.
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Old 27-12-2015, 04:34
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I don't think we have to think what the characters themselves think - we have to get into the mind of DTC as he tries to work out a satisfactory path out of the convoluted storyline mess (which has served himself well - the Lucy murder was his big idea and has created multiple duf duf duf moments).
It could have been so different too.

Bobby going to Boarding school is not actually a conclusion. Max is still in prison, the story will never be over until Maxs' name is cleared.
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Old 27-12-2015, 04:41
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It could have been so different too.

Bobby going to Boarding school is not actually a conclusion. Max is still in prison, the story will never be over until Maxs' name is cleared.
The ramifications of having an innocent man in jail are enormous and wide-ranging. DTC has to be very careful how to handle it. He also has to think what are the consequences of having Max revealed to be innocent and what storylines will that initiate and affect - and can EE handle them. How will Max's re-entry to Walford Square be handled, what effect will that have on Lauren in New Zealand, Cindy & Liam in Germany .. and so forth. I am sure DTC will have to have us swallow various ludicrous inconsistencies in order to get the matter resolved no matter how it is resolved. It is the penalty DTC is prepared to take having created so many duf duf duf previous moments.

Look how the Charlie Cotton storylines were resolved. His mother went back to Ireland. Nick Cotton died. Dot went to prison. Charlie vanished - and we were later told he is too scared to return to Walford Square and too scared too ring up Dot. Ronnie has his baby - but baby Matthew has had to be storyblocked out. All the yearning of Ronnie for a baby, all that protecting the baby stuff and now where is the baby. DTC has Ronnie doing other things.
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Old 27-12-2015, 04:46
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I'm pretty happy Fatboy is dead but somehow I can't see it sticking. We didn't see a body and that means he's probably still alive.

I knew **** and Dopey were coming back so I prepared myself for the indignity of it. Thankfully they barely appeared but I'm sure we have weeks of their histrionics to look forward to. The joy...

I don't like Stacey, Martin, Shabnam or Kush. They're all dull and depressing. Not one of them is likeable in the slightest. Stacey has a face like a slapped arse and Shabnam seems to be on her period 24/7. Martin and Kush haven't got a braincell between them.

I wanted the Bobby storyline to end but I just knew it wouldn't. I now officially detest Ian Beale. Kathy got on my wick and rendered her return to the Beale family pointless since all she's done is enable the farce to continue. I admit I love Jane. She's a seriously messed up woman but she's so watchable. The saving grace of the Beales.

I enjoyed the Phil scenes since I adore the character and the actor is great. The storyline with Dennis was decent. I like the new actor. I'm enjoying the Sharon/Gavin retcon extravaganza despite myself. I'm glad Sharon told the vile Ian to go **** himself.

The Carters were the only light relief. I like them more when they don't have dramatic scenes to be honest. Shirley made my day slapping the shit out of that twisted rapey brat of a son of hers.

I can't believe Jack Branning has been brought back to regurgitate the same storyline with Ronnie. But the most shocking thing about it is that DTC and Lamb thought this was a secret worth keeping for 6 months. Jack is a plank of wood!

Since Twatboy had already left on Xmas Eve I'd have loved the person in the boot to be the annoyance known as Kim. Maybe next year.
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Old 27-12-2015, 09:06
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For the Bobby storyline to end. I'd been sure it would end on Christmas Day. The Beales hoping for a nice christmas only to have it all fall apart and their son carted off by the police seemed obvious.
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Old 27-12-2015, 09:09
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To see more of the goose, maybe chasing Mick around the square.
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Old 27-12-2015, 10:04
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Lets just say it involves MyLauren and MyCindy.
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Old 27-12-2015, 10:13
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I wanted some redemption for someone, anyone would do. Instead we got a pity fest. Are meant to feel sorry for poor Jane and Ian because they really, really love poor Bobby and are going to spend a small fortune to send him away. Then there is poor Phil who's liver is about to explode, and Sharon, who's precious baby is lying in a coma (only we know they'll both be fine). Were we also meant to feel sorry for Ronnie for being devastated over killing the wrong bloke, after all, she cried.
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Old 27-12-2015, 10:44
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Well, I read Dean was going to be caught out at last. Where did that storyline disappear to?
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Old 27-12-2015, 11:01
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I don't think we have to think what the characters themselves think - we have to get into the mind of DTC as he tries to work out a satisfactory path out of the now convoluted storyline mess which involves half of the square. The storyline has served DTC well it is all part of a continuation of the Lucy Murder storyline which was his big idea and created multiple duf duf duf moments. I am sure he got this job by selling the Lucy Murder storyline idea and it has run and run and taken on a life of its own.
Sooooooo fed up with this Lucy storyline now. I am sure the producer is playing it by ear and making it up as he goes along, so messy. Will they, won't they dob the awful child to the Police, one minute it is certain, next minute not.......too obvious as well and takes reality to a new low. Then sending him off to boarding school, what a cop out for the writers, they don't have to deal with the mess this has created. What about Stacey and who is the father now........they kept focussing on Dean, was it him wot done the dirty deed. Oh dear. I also thought Fatboy would be the one to go because he had little part to play of late then all of a sudden he was in everything - a sure sign he was to be bumped off in some way. I thought it was Claudette in the boot, the Mother from hell who is prepared for her Son to be banged up for bumping off a Mitchell......any Mitchell will do.......if she is so passionate, then why not do something herself instead of goading her Son all the time.
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Old 27-12-2015, 11:16
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Mainly I just wanted the Lucy storyline to end. Seriously it's conclusion is sending Bobby away, and it's not even a conclusion, it's just put on the backburner for another time. Why do they tease the viewers that the Beales are going to the police, Jane was going to do the right thing and Ian the twit stopped her. I only like Jane out of the Beale's now, she's brilliant to watch because of how screwed up she is.

I liked the car crash, that was good. I also liked Jane's nightmare at the beginning of the episode too, as well as the street light coming on then flickering off. The Carters were good light relief and I hope New Year is good too. I'm glad Shirley slapped child acting Dean, he deserved it.

I didn't want Fats to die though, or rather not die in such a horrible way. The whole Mitchell v Hubbard feud is crap, it's so ridiculous it's not actually drama or engaging, it's just so funny to watch.

Overall though the actual Christmas Day ep was good, I liked it, but yesterdays was a complete u-turn.
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Old 27-12-2015, 11:24
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Lady Di having somewhat of an involvement. So underrated. No wonder the actress is rumoured to be at logger heads with DTC and Dyer.
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Old 27-12-2015, 12:02
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For the Bobby storyline to end. It's a shame it didn't. Also, some
slightly better duff duffs.

Apart from that, I thought it was fine.
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Old 27-12-2015, 12:10
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I wanted Ronnie to die. Honestly, I've watched EE since day one in 1985, and I've seen some terrible characters come and go, and she is honest to God one of the worst. She's shouty, miserable, and a massive hypocrite to boot. Can't stand her, and hit mute when she's on.
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Old 27-12-2015, 15:11
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I'm a little confused about what happened in the woods with Bobby and Denny. Jane said that Bobby took Denny to the woods to keep Sharon quiet about going to the police. But did he hit Denny there or shove him etc.? It was a bit vague.
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Old 27-12-2015, 15:13
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I was expecting/hoping the Bobby storyline would conclude. Xmas Day was good and Boxing Day too until the Boarding school rubbish.
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Old 27-12-2015, 15:34
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I was hoping for a Babe, Dot and Paddy threesome but apparently that is lined up for Easter.
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Old 27-12-2015, 16:10
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I was finally hoping it would end with Jane going to the police for the 100th time, and max would be released off screen,

The problem is now is in order to do it they have to write Jane out, they can easily afford to lose bobby but I don't want Jane to leave so they have well and truly backed themselves into a corner
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Old 27-12-2015, 17:04
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I would have been happy with the end of the Bobby storyline which seems to be just going around in circles now and is turning the Beale family into an absolute joke!

I would have been delighted to see Ronnie pay the price for her attitude towards everyone and everything. What if by some huge twist Roxy had ended up in the boot of the car, maybe cos of her 'goons' double crossing her and putting her sister where Vincent was meant to be? Ronnie would then have to live with the guilt of having caused her sister's death, and the way she obsesses over Roxy she would probably kill herself over it.

I wouldn't have killed Fatboy, I would have given him a happy ending, maybe having Vincent's story to Dot being true, but with everyone knowing and saying goodbye to him. How many more times will we have Dot taking a young man under her wing, only for them to have a sticky exit?

I would have held off on Kat and Alfie's arrival until the new year. At times it felt like they were trying to squeeze in too many storylines into the one episode.
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