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Old 09-02-2016, 15:47
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Indeed, and who can blame him, the BDO organisation of these new events has been a disgrace. The next one is meant to start 6 weeks on Friday, now try and go and find a ticket for it...
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Old 09-02-2016, 18:28
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Even as someone who considers himself vastly more of a fan of the PDC I take no pleasure in watching the BDO suffer what seems to be a slow, lingering, self inflicted death all in public.
I honestly think that when Hearn offered to buy out the BDO a few years ago they should of ripped his hand off.
I realise he's not to everyone's taste but his record in the sport should command respect.
Where next for the BDO?
Are they over as a top level darts organisation and only now able to run the counties etc?
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Old 09-02-2016, 18:28
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Sad day, I remember watching my first BDO final John Part v's Bobby George as a kid in 1994 and all the greats have played at Lakeside But I can't blame the BBC for wanting PDC darts. I do hope that the BDO gets a TV deal from somewhere for the sake of the players.
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Old 09-02-2016, 19:18
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Five weeks is a long time in darts:

“We have started to move forward. We have new events coming on board, new sponsors, so we are in a very good position. I’m confident about the future. We would like to improve the prize-money, of course, and that is something under discussion with all our partners.”*

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/g...-a6801286.html
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Old 09-02-2016, 20:12
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Five weeks is a long time in darts:

“We have started to move forward. We have new events coming on board, new sponsors, so we are in a very good position. I’m confident about the future. We would like to improve the prize-money, of course, and that is something under discussion with all our partners.”*

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/g...-a6801286.html
I'm amazed they announced new tournaments without having everything finalised and definite. That's amateur hour stuff.
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Old 09-02-2016, 23:45
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As I said in the PDC thread. As an overall darts fan, today is a good day and also a bad day
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Old 10-02-2016, 10:14
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I guess BT wont take it on as there production costs will double being sole broadcaster.
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Old 10-02-2016, 11:37
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Even as someone who considers himself vastly more of a fan of the PDC I take no pleasure in watching the BDO suffer what seems to be a slow, lingering, self inflicted death all in public.
I honestly think that when Hearn offered to buy out the BDO a few years ago they should of ripped his hand off.
I realise he's not to everyone's taste but his record in the sport should command respect.
Where next for the BDO?
Are they over as a top level darts organisation and only now able to run the counties etc?
This paragraph sums it up perfectly for me. The key words being self inflicted too

I know many on here say "get rid of the BDO" but they don't say what to do with the county or womens games. Well one poster on here said get rid of the womens game but that is just total sexism. Would the PDC care about the county game and bringing through the talent ? If the answer is no then the long term future of darts wouldn't be healthy.
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Old 10-02-2016, 12:32
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Christ. Prats galore on that website, full of PDC "fanboys" obsessing over a BDO fans facebook page. Cringeworthy.
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Old 10-02-2016, 12:35
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Anyway, as a DARTS fan, I'm gutted about this news. Used to enjoy taking a week off in January after Xmas to sit down and watch the Lakeside and now it may never happen again. Yes it's good that there is more darts on free to air TV, but it's disappointing that a tournament as well known and with such history as the Lakeside is just being discarded away like a used paper cup.
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Old 10-02-2016, 13:56
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This paragraph sums it up perfectly for me. The key words being self inflicted too

I know many on here say "get rid of the BDO" but they don't say what to do with the county or womens games. Well one poster on here said get rid of the womens game but that is just total sexism. Would the PDC care about the county game and bringing through the talent ? If the answer is no then the long term future of darts wouldn't be healthy.
Like I said in the other topic, learn to read and get it right and stop branding me that, just because I hate the BDO and criticised the womens standard does not make me sexist, I actually said scrap the BDO as a whole that is both men and womens do you understand?
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Old 10-02-2016, 16:43
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Anyway, as a DARTS fan, I'm gutted about this news. Used to enjoy taking a week off in January after Xmas to sit down and watch the Lakeside and now it may never happen again. Yes it's good that there is more darts on free to air TV, but it's disappointing that a tournament as well known and with such history as the Lakeside is just being discarded away like a used paper cup.
Absolutely. That's how I feel and said as much during this year's tournament. Lakeside always made a very grim time of the year more bearable.

Not sure what will happen in 2017, but if Lakeside is behind an (expensive) pay-wall then it's not looking like the future is very bright for the BDO (sadly)

It feels like the end of an era.
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Old 10-02-2016, 17:01
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Like I said in the other topic, learn to read and get it right and stop branding me that, just because I hate the BDO and criticised the womens standard does not make me sexist, I actually said scrap the BDO as a whole that is both men and womens do you understand?
So you would scrap womens darts. That is a fact. And that fact makes it a sexist statement. You kept saying if the women want to play they should play with the men.

And I am STILL waiting for you to explain how the county game would work if they scrapped the BDO like you keep saying.

Full of suggestions but very light on solutions.

And PS. I didn't mention you or identity you, you identified yourself
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Old 10-02-2016, 20:25
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So you would scrap womens darts. That is a fact. And that fact makes it a sexist statement. You kept saying if the women want to play they should play with the men.

And I am STILL waiting for you to explain how the county game would work if they scrapped the BDO like you keep saying.

Full of suggestions but very light on solutions.

And PS. I didn't mention you or identity you, you identified yourself
No because they are both poor standard and the womens even more so, I have made this clear in the past why would you think it's because they are women? I feel the same for the men so I must be sexist to the them too right?

Darts will live on fine without the BDO.
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Old 10-02-2016, 21:25
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No because they are both poor standard and the womens even more so, I have made this clear in the past why would you think it's because they are women? I feel the same for the men so I must be sexist to the them too right?

Darts will live on fine without the BDO.
It wouldn't it would be in turmoil you don't see what the bdo does for darts the pdc would have to expand and change a lot of tournaments , all the new ones seem to be top 8 top 16 which does nothing for the lower ranked players , you would have to go to Q school as well and all the expenses too to fork out the system shows what works best the pdc has been going 24 years and produced 1 world champion of its own of the current top 10 only 2 came through the PDC without the BDO

Two main factor is called pressure and nerves the BDO players aren't used to big stages and big crowds you only have see what happens with the top PDC players they get used to it and the ladies are the same it affected Lisa and Fallon this year
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Old 10-02-2016, 21:36
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No because they are both poor standard and the womens even more so, I have made this clear in the past why would you think it's because they are women? I feel the same for the men so I must be sexist to the them too right?

Darts will live on fine without the BDO.
Would it ? Please explain how ( for the umpteenth time ). If you don't know just admit it.

And I stand by the sexist statement. Women tennis players should compete with the men ? Women's football teams should be in the same league as the guys ? Women's darts is not a poor standard you are just blinkered in your view. They have as much right to play as men. You are saying, correct me if I am wrong, that the PDC should be the only darts organisation. Correct ? They don't have a womens championship so therefore you are saying 'no womens darts'.
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Old 10-02-2016, 22:23
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Would it ? Please explain how ( for the umpteenth time ). If you don't know just admit it.

And I stand by the sexist statement. Women tennis players should compete with the men ? Women's football teams should be in the same league as the guys ? Women's darts is not a poor standard you are just blinkered in your view. They have as much right to play as men. You are saying, correct me if I am wrong, that the PDC should be the only darts organisation. Correct ? They don't have a womens championship so therefore you are saying 'no womens darts'.
Yes the PDC should be the only organisation, and it's closer than ever to happening.
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Old 11-02-2016, 10:30
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Yes the PDC should be the only organisation, and it's closer than ever to happening.
So in summary, you have absolutely no idea ?? You cannot answer my question and you cannot back down from your sexist comment. That is what you are saying isn't it ? I have asked you countless times how the PDC would run the counties etc and why you think women shouldn't be allowed to play and you keep refusing to answer. You clearly do not know the answer, you just make daft statements based on no knowledge.
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Old 11-02-2016, 16:21
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NIDO already run the county system in Northern Ireland.

Therefore the SDA can run the Scottish counties, and the EDO/WDO can run the English and Welsh ones.

There, problem solved.
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Old 11-02-2016, 17:45
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Also chances are PDC would just take over the mantle and probably just increase the funding the county games get or make the county games link to the challenger tour.
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Old 11-02-2016, 18:01
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Also chances are PDC would just take over the mantle and probably just increase the funding the county games get or make the county games link to the challenger tour.
Not a chance. The county game has thousands and thousands of players. The Challenger tour, doesn't.
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Old 11-02-2016, 18:04
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NIDO already run the county system in Northern Ireland.

Therefore the SDA can run the Scottish counties, and the EDO/WDO can run the English and Welsh ones.

There, problem solved.
And the women's game ? I know you hate the BDO so much which means you will never offer a reasoned argument. They could offer a million pound prize money, have 25 9 darters and come up with a cure for the common cold and you'd still hate them Bradders
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Old 11-02-2016, 18:09
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Not a chance. The county game has thousands and thousands of players. The Challenger tour, doesn't.
Still doesn't stop them linking the County games to the Challenger tour by having a pathway to reach the World championship or majors.

Anyway I suspect The county games is the least challenging aspect of a possible merger or buy out of the organisation.
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Old 11-02-2016, 18:23
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And the women's game ? I know you hate the BDO so much which means you will never offer a reasoned argument. They could offer a million pound prize money, have 25 9 darters and come up with a cure for the common cold and you'd still hate them Bradders
What about the ladies? The national organisations carry on running county the way it is run now, with women's and mens events. The EDO, SDA and WDO already run numerous events for women, men and even youth. So there is no need for the BDO if the national organisations take over the functions.

You seem to have a been in your bonnet about the women, im not the one saying get rid of them: that is someone else

And there is nothing wrong with my reasoning here. No other part of the world has two national organisations. The Dutch just have the NDB. So why does England need two as it does now? And don't say because it's tradition, because tradition doesn't pay the bills. The EDO and the respective bodies in Wales and Scotland would do a much better job at running county than the BDO do. In any case county runs itself to an extent, once given the fixture list and the dates they are left to their own devices and just email the results in on Sunday night.
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Old 13-02-2016, 21:27
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Scott Waites was interviewed on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert (Letterman's replacement).

Must be one of the most bizarre bookings ever!
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