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Old 04-01-2016, 13:09
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There are only 12 PDC weekends, all in the UK bar one (in ireland) where you travel to with the chance of winning nothing, you only travel to the other events if you have qualified for them and you a guaranteed at least a grand for doing so. And anyone living within an hour of Crawley, Barnsley, Wigan etc.. will not be spending money at all on hotels some weekends.

Where on earth have you pulled the figure of £25k from?

These days promotors will be paying for travel/entries for some players, in a return for a cut from exbos. Some take as much as 50% (Modus/MDA).

Players travel on both sides of the divide, lest we forget.

I echo a previous posters sentiments about Waites, the moment for him switching has passed, never built on his momentum after winning the Worlds and the Slam.
Well regardless of whether you have qualified to play overseas or not it is still your cost, even though you will get it back in winnings. So therefore you add that to your expenses for the year. Taxman will want your expenses and your income so two different columns.
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Old 04-01-2016, 13:13
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I still dont see how you get anywhere near a figure of £25k for the full tour. In any case, surely any BDO top player should be backing himself to earn it back and more. Look at what Norris has achieved in his first year, in one year in the PDC he is only £14k shy of the entire career earnings of Glen Durrant!

Of course, its not for everyone, as most will sink without trace (look at Hankey for example)
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Old 04-01-2016, 13:23
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I still dont see how you get anywhere near a figure of £25k for the full tour. In any case, surely any BDO top player should be backing himself to earn it back and more. Look at what Norris has achieved in his first year, in one year in the PDC he is only £14k shy of the entire career earnings of Glen Durrant!

Of course, its not for everyone, as most will sink without trace (look at Hankey for example)
It was a figure I was told, maybe that was for the full two years of a pro tour card and i have got it arse way round.
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Old 04-01-2016, 16:31
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Further to the above, I asked Chris Mason on twitter and he said between 10 and 15 grand a year now most qualifiers are in UK
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Old 04-01-2016, 18:43
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Some great matches on tonight, including the lovely Aileen!
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Old 04-01-2016, 19:26
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Some great matches on tonight, including the lovely Aileen!
Ted v Martin Phillips could be a good un
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Old 04-01-2016, 19:56
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Yeah looking forward to Phillips V Hankey, think Martin is too canny to fall for any of Teds nonsense but we shall see!

Tony on the womens game again looks like you're right Darren they're putting him on the matches where he can cause least damage
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Old 04-01-2016, 21:01
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Montgomery taking a right kicking by Hughes in this game!
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Old 04-01-2016, 21:30
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Ted Hankey is coming The best entrance of all time

The Dark man cometh

This is my territory

Be on your way
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Old 04-01-2016, 21:38
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Haha Teds calling someone out in the crowd already after 1 leg!!
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Old 04-01-2016, 21:44
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This has to be the worst i have seen Ted Hankey play in a long time
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Old 04-01-2016, 21:46
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This has to be the worst i have seen Ted Hankey play in a long time
Playing dire stuff. He's going to blow up with someone or over something soon that's his usual way of trying to pump himself up.
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Old 04-01-2016, 21:48
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Playing dire stuff. He's going to blow up with someone or over something soon that's his usual way of trying to pump himself up.
Do you think if he faced Lisa Ashton she would beat him
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Old 04-01-2016, 21:51
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I know that we'd all like to see the old Ted Hankey back and he is the bigger name but can't the tv crew give Martin Phillips any respect at all?
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Old 04-01-2016, 22:02
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Do you think if he faced Lisa Ashton she would beat him
The non dart player who answered the questions on bullseye would have had a chance of beating him tonight let alone Lisa Ashton!
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Old 04-01-2016, 22:07
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Im sorry but this match looked suspicious as Ted Hankey looked like he lost that match on purpose i know i could be wrong but the way he was playing definitely looked dodgy What do you guys think
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Old 04-01-2016, 22:32
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Pretty poor night of darts. Not been great all round in honesty; Waites looking something like what he used to be has been the high point so far. Unfortunate that the draw has got him and Durrant possibly against each other in the next round.
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Old 04-01-2016, 23:32
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Why were the crowd booing Hankey?
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Old 04-01-2016, 23:34
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The BBC in their late night highlights show are showing matches which I already saw this afternoon - I want to see the untelevised evening matches.
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Old 05-01-2016, 02:44
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Im sorry but this match looked suspicious as Ted Hankey looked like he lost that match on purpose i know i could be wrong but the way he was playing definitely looked dodgy What do you guys think
I don't think he lost it on purpose. That's a pretty serious allegation. Rather Ted had an off day - a very off day indeed.

Well done to Martin Phillips.
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Old 05-01-2016, 04:50
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I don't think he lost it on purpose. That's a pretty serious allegation. Rather Ted had an off day - a very off day indeed.

Well done to Martin Phillips.
There were two times during the match where Ted had thrown his third dart away when the leg was getting away with him. First time was when 0-1 down in sets, 0-2 down in legs when he needed double 10, missed first dart and got single 15 with the second. Second time was when he needed 120 in the third set, got single 20, then treble 5. Both times Martin put away the leg at his next visit so it can't be said to have changed the outcome.
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:28
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Ted Hankey is an utter embarrassment. Cant seem to win a darts match by playing normally these days and has to try and resort to dragging his opponent down to a level so pathetic it is almost too bad for television.

As for Montgomery, there is a glorious clip on Vimeo of him storming out of the players bar with his coat

EDIT - here it is, https://vimeo.com/150721897
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:35
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The BBC in their late night highlights show are showing matches which I already saw this afternoon - I want to see the untelevised evening matches.
I wish the deal was BT in the day and live BBC in the evening - even if only available on line / red button. There must be loads of people like me who miss the afternoon action because they're at work all day and the evening play through not having BT sport. Be semi final time before I get to see any live play again
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Old 05-01-2016, 09:20
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Ted Hankey is an utter embarrassment. Cant seem to win a darts match by playing normally these days and has to try and resort to dragging his opponent down to a level so pathetic it is almost too bad for television.

As for Montgomery, there is a glorious clip on Vimeo of him storming out of the players bar with his coat

EDIT - here it is, https://vimeo.com/150721897
What did he say when leaving?
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Old 05-01-2016, 09:42
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What did he say when leaving?
Havent a clue, didnt watch the whole match. Apparently they also buggered up his walk-on music, so no doubt he will use that as the excuse. Nothing at all to do with the fact he isnt anywhere near as good as he thinks he is.
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