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Alright let's all calm down.
Will EE become BT Mobile do we think? |
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During the last year, EE have been offering free SIMs with 100GB data a month for the equivalent of £5/month. Yet I don't hear people complaining about network performance on EE.
The inconvenience of switching sims/numbers is enough for everyday customers not to bother. Many of us have multiple phones and enjoy network stuff so it's a no brainer to grab these sims, I don't think it's that simple for the average Joe. As of now, I've got 2 friends on EE that run out of data quite often but refuse to grab a 200GB sim because they can't be bothered with the hassle. My guess is that there are people using these sims to tether and use huge amounts of data, but they are spread across the country and there's no one particular area where you will find an abundance of EE 200GB sim users. Unlike Three, where you will find AYCE users congesting sites and people using more than 200GB per month. Considering Three carry 40% of mobile data with 5 million 4G users and EE have over 14 million 4G users (so 60% of mobile data between EE/O2/Vodafone), I think it's clear to see that these 200GB sims aren't overly popular. If EE customers became as aggressive as Three customers with their data usage, EE might have a problem. Nevertheless, EE's network performance is very impressive. If EE added 100GB to existing customers accounts, then we would see how the network copes. |
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Considering Three carry 40% of mobile data with 5 million 4G users
Just quickly thinking, I know of at least 10 people who have ditched Three over the last 6 months or so, mostly to EE. |
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I wonder how true that stat is these days, many of the heavy users have left Three, as have a large number of normal users annoyed by the crappy way Three have conducted themselves over the last 12-15 months.
Just quickly thinking, I know of at least 10 people who have ditched Three over the last 6 months or so, mostly to EE. |
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I wonder how true that stat is these days, many of the heavy users have left Three, as have a large number of normal users annoyed by the crappy way Three have conducted themselves over the last 12-15 months.
Just quickly thinking, I know of at least 10 people who have ditched Three over the last 6 months or so, mostly to EE. |
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The other reason why tethering is often separate is you've bought a contract and sim for that device, tethering means you can use that device and then you could turn on hotspot and allow more users, work people, kids, friends, other people in the house to all use it on multiple devices, that obviously means there's likely to be much more data use and temptation to rely on it for that more and more different uses and hence much higher data use.
On a smaller amount fixed allowance I don't see the point in restricting it, but on an all you can eat on that device plan it makes sense, that's the terms of the all you can eat. It's a bit like going in to an all you can eat restaurant, paying for you and then sitting down with all your friends and all tucking in, you'll get thrown out. The all you can eat relates to that device with the sim in, in Three's case you get 12GB of tethering on some of the plans. I think that's a fair compromise. In EE's case I can't see why they would do it on an already fixed or limited plan. |
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The other reason why tethering is often separate is you've bought a contract and sim for that device, tethering means you can use that device and then you could turn on hotspot and allow more users, work people, kids, friends, other people in the house to all use it on multiple devices, that obviously means there's likely to be much more data use and temptation to rely on it for that more and more different uses and hence much higher data use.
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On a smaller amount fixed allowance I don't see the point in restricting it, but on an all you can eat on that device plan it makes sense, that's the terms of the all you can eat. It's a bit like going in to an all you can eat restaurant, paying for you and then sitting down with all your friends and all tucking in, you'll get thrown out. The all you can eat relates to that device with the sim in, in Three's case you get 12GB of tethering on some of the plans. I think that's a fair compromise. In EE's case I can't see why they would do it on an already fixed or limited plan.
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Since BT Mobile seem to only offer 0.5, 2 or 20GB, I'm sure they're expecting a lot of people on 20GB to use nowhere near their limit, If you want more than 2GB you've got to go for 20GB, even if you don't need that much.
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Since BT Mobile seem to only offer 0.5, 2 or 20GB, I'm sure they're expecting a lot of people on 20GB to use nowhere near their limit, If you want more than 2GB you've got to go for 20GB, even if you don't need that much.
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During the last year, EE have been offering free SIMs with 100GB data a month for the equivalent of £5/month. Yet I don't hear people complaining about network performance on EE.
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Perhaps go back and read the last page or so to see what's actually been said, however, as you are just being argumentative for the sake of it (to go with the stupid comments) I am now suspecting you are are just trolling for an argument so it's probably better to just ignore you. So I will.
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I wonder how many customers 3 have lost? Or like some have said, how many data hungry users have they lost?
I bet most heavy users have stayed with 3 as they are not going to want to be capped by the other networks. Three could be still left with heavy users but at least now they are paying more for it. BT do seem smart as pointed out. No nice fab between 2 and 20, forcing that big spend. It's like the £10 package, really that needs to be 1gb. |
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I wonder how many customers 3 have lost? Or like some have said, how many data hungry users have they lost?
I bet most heavy users have stayed with 3 as they are not going to want to be capped by the other networks. Three could be still left with heavy users but at least now they are paying more for it. BT do seem smart as pointed out. No nice fab between 2 and 20, forcing that big spend. It's like the £10 package, really that needs to be 1gb. I doubt they lost many customers through the price rises or end of unlimited tethering as like you say, a small number (the 1%) were very vocal, but had nowhere else to go. |
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A pointer to the future there in the top left hand corner at what all of us on EE have to look forward to our phones showing? I'd say probably not this year. More likely to be 2017.
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I wonder how many customers 3 have lost? Or like some have said, how many data hungry users have they lost?
I bet most heavy users have stayed with 3 as they are not going to want to be capped by the other networks. Three could be still left with heavy users but at least now they are paying more for it. BT do seem smart as pointed out. No nice fab between 2 and 20, forcing that big spend. It's like the £10 package, really that needs to be 1gb. And with the AYCE data that three still offer, you don’t have the worry about keep having to checking every 5 or 10 minutes how much data you have left when you are running out of a low monthly tariff of data. The 2 months × 100GB of data on EE also means you don’t need to worry either unless you are a heavy user and go really mad. I can see those who recently left three who normally use 1 or 2 GB’s more each month than EE generally offer once they stop doing these special 200GB sims (i.e. when they become BT mobile) coming back to three again. |
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But in practice they will have a negligible effect on total system performance due to relatively low take up. How many people want to change their phone number for a short term benefit.
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People don't need to change their phone number. The SIM can be used in a dongle or MiFi.
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People don't need to change their phone number. The SIM can be used in a dongle or MiFi.
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People don't need to change their phone number. The SIM can be used in a dongle or MiFi.
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I'd just like to point out that today while doing some testing on EE, I put my BT Mobile sim into a Galaxy S6 and it showed 4G+. I assume this means carrier aggregation is working on BT Mobile unless the S6 shows 4G+ simply by being on 2600MHz.
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I'd just like to point out that today while doing some testing on EE, I put my BT Mobile sim into a Galaxy S6 and it showed 4G+. I assume this means carrier aggregation is working on BT Mobile unless the S6 shows 4G+ simply by being on 2600MHz.
Why would it show 4G+ when on a single band? Is it an EE branded phone? |
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Interesting.
Why would it show 4G+ when on a single band? Is it an EE branded phone? Samsung's signal icons are something I miss being on iPhone, or even when using stock Android. I like how it displays G/E/3G/H/H+/4G/4G+ compared to the iPhone or stock Android G/E/3G/4G. |
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My son has jumped ship from Three's One Plan (one month rolling, £18/mth) and joined BT Mobile on the Medium tariff. It was on offer for £8/mth at the time (we have BT BB) and combined with the £20 amazon credit and at the time £40 Quidco the net cost over the next 12 months is £36 or £3/mth! He shouldn't have been on The One Plan from the start given his pretty low monthly data useage plus the BT Mobile is capped so no chance of a huge overspend. He finds the signal way more consistent, especially indoors.
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