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I would guess this wont be sorted out till Android 7.0 at earliest. 6.0 support seems to be a fudge. It has certainly made me reconsider my next phone as its a bit of a minefield unless you buy an Apple device.
To fix this the industry is working on a parameter list for open market devices. It hasn't been approved yet and already has 26 configuration parameters. It's not known if this is enough! iPhones have some configuration parameters available but the operators have to adapt their networks to work with it. OK for what is essentially one device with a large share of the market but it's not feasible to do it for every different device so they have to be adapted to work by using operator specific firmware. It's the same situation for wifi calling. |
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I think you are right. The question is whether the Android configuration parameters are sufficient. The problems exist because the standard is a bit wooly and leaves bits to interpretation so networks have been rolled out which are not interoperable and devices made which interpret things in different ways. So any VoLTE handsets could use VoLTE up to a point but there would be lots of undesirable effects if they interpret and respond in different ways to certain things.
To fix this the industry is working on a parameter list for open market devices. It hasn't been approved yet and already has 26 configuration parameters. It's not known if this is enough! iPhones have some configuration parameters available but the operators have to adapt their networks to work with it. OK for what is essentially one device with a large share of the market but it's not feasible to do it for every different device so they have to be adapted to work by using operator specific firmware. It's the same situation for wifi calling.
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The Nexus 6P (and I assume the 5X) will be getting an update to work with more VoLTE services including Three at some time in Q1, according to one of my many contacts at Huawei.
I'd find it mad if other big manufacturers didn't follow suit when they roll out Marshmallow. But the industry never fails to disappoint at times. |
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So is enabling VoLTE on a 4G phone a case of having the right software on the phone or is VoLTE something hardcoded into a chip, a chip that may not be present on all 4G phones?
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So is enabling VoLTE on a 4G phone a case of having the right software on the phone or is VoLTE something hardcoded into a chip, a chip that may not be present on all 4G phones?
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I thought it was a hardware requirement of the radio chips.
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I thought it was a hardware requirement of the radio chips.
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I thought it was a hardware requirement of the radio chips.
I am pretty sure the Nexus 5 has a capable radio but Google doesn't plan to allow it to be used |
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Would be interesting to see which phones really are compatible versus those that the networks have actually supported. Well, it would be to me anyway
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I thought it was a hardware requirement of the radio chips.
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This is the impression I was also under.
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I thought it was a hardware requirement of the radio chips.
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Correct.
I suppose moox is correct also in that there are loads out there capable but never going to be supported in their OSs. So I guess these may as well be seen as not hardware capable. 5s is capable I believe but will never do it. might be wrong. |
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Sometimes I hate being right
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Many phones likely have compatible hardware but the manufacturer has never made it available.
I am pretty sure the Nexus 5 has a capable radio but Google doesn't plan to allow it to be used |
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Surely they could just tell us not to use them in fields??
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iPhone 5 range has compatible radio but needs firmware update that could break it in field so Apple don't so it. Same chip used in other phones with later firmware works for VoLTE. Might be due to volume Apple required up front so didn't get mid life refreshes etc.
Google certainly is happy to do it, I had to manually upgrade the radio firmware to go from 6 to 6.0.1 (I use a custom ROM) There's probably an element of "let's keep it for the next flagship so people want to upgrade" |
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That is exactly it!
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That is exactly it!
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Seems to be why Three isn't even supporting a handset that it used for its own testing! I assume Sony (and Three) would much rather people with a Z2 get a Z5.
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It's why EE don't want us to keep our iPhone 16.
They'd rather we went and bought a 8G compatible iPhone 16S so we can use the new telepathic calling feature. Personally I just want it for the 90" holographic HUD and "real feel" virtual keyboard (even though you can just talk to it these days, remember Siri? Hahahah) but the 6 month battery life temps me as well. I know others do 3-4 months now but what a pest when it runs out. I mean yeah, 15 seconds to charge but hey, I have a life! |
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Forgot to post this here as well.
Number is monthly data usage across the network. Easily over 30 now. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...hee%20DATA.jpg Also it should say petabyte on the side, not terabyte. Slight typo. |
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They better get some Spectrum in then. the same over the next 5 years and they're in trouble!
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Well, true, although they do have the option of restricting unlimited data more, as well as adding 4G to the 60% of sites that don't currently have it, also much more 800 as it is still only on 1 in 10 sites or something.
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Forgot to post this here as well.
Number is monthly data usage across the network. Easily over 30 now. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...hee%20DATA.jpg Also it should say petabyte on the side, not terabyte. Slight typo. |
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What happened in (what I assume is) 2013 Q1 such that it didn't grow? Seems an odd plateau?
![]() Honestly, no idea. All I know is that Three continue to carry >40% of all mobile data in the UK and average data use is now over 5GB with those on unlimited plans using more on average. |
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