Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“I wasn't keen on what I saw
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“I wasn't keen on what I saw
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Yeah but enough were to invalidate your opinion - whatever you think of him he was a graceful dancer.
What kind of celebs do you want/not want?
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Yeah but enough were to invalidate your opinion - whatever you think of him he was a graceful dancer.
Originally Posted by Roberta_Lewis:
“Without the ringers the show would lose something for me,and I don't mind a few duffers either,at the end of the day it's an entertainment show not a world class dance competition.Over the years I've never had a dislike for any celeb so don't mind what area of work they are drawn from so long as they are committed to learning and putting on the best show they can.”
“Without the ringers the show would lose something for me,and I don't mind a few duffers either,at the end of the day it's an entertainment show not a world class dance competition.Over the years I've never had a dislike for any celeb so don't mind what area of work they are drawn from so long as they are committed to learning and putting on the best show they can.”
Agreed.
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“I doubt Zoe meant Pandre as an insult though. Sometimes it's not the word itself but the number of times it gets repeated, how it's said or by how many that builds up to being unpleasant. A completely innocuous word can be hurtful if the intention is to hurt...
I bet Pondscum wasn't Zoe tho
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“I doubt Zoe meant Pandre as an insult though. Sometimes it's not the word itself but the number of times it gets repeated, how it's said or by how many that builds up to being unpleasant. A completely innocuous word can be hurtful if the intention is to hurt...
I bet Pondscum wasn't Zoe tho
”
Agreed and I doubt Zoe was the originator of either word and she would not have called him Pondscum, which is particularly unpleasant.
A few more potential male contenders would do nicely.
And a definite "No" to the likes of Myleene Klass.
And a definite "No" to the likes of Myleene Klass.
Originally Posted by Hound of Love:
“A few more potential male contenders would do nicely.
And a definite "No" to the likes of Myleene Klass.”
“A few more potential male contenders would do nicely.
And a definite "No" to the likes of Myleene Klass.”
Yeah, please not one of the sexiest women in Britain
It's always been the case that once someone's been on Strictly, that's it, they can't be a contestant again.
Think that's absolutely right.
But do you think Anthony Ogogo should have a second chance as he couldn't really dance due to his injury - if they treated him like someone who's done the Christmas Special?
Or is it too much of a precident?
Or a waste of time anyway?
Think that's absolutely right.
But do you think Anthony Ogogo should have a second chance as he couldn't really dance due to his injury - if they treated him like someone who's done the Christmas Special?
Or is it too much of a precident?
Or a waste of time anyway?
Originally Posted by Fred.:
“It's always been the case that once someone's been on Strictly, that's it, they can't be a contestant again.
Think that's absolutely right.
But do you think Anthony Ogogo should have a second chance as he couldn't really dance due to his injury - if they treated him like someone who's done the Christmas Special?
Or is it too much of a precident?
Or a waste of time anyway?”
“It's always been the case that once someone's been on Strictly, that's it, they can't be a contestant again.
Think that's absolutely right.
But do you think Anthony Ogogo should have a second chance as he couldn't really dance due to his injury - if they treated him like someone who's done the Christmas Special?
Or is it too much of a precident?
Or a waste of time anyway?”
I would have no problem giving him another go as he didn't really have a fair start & he seemed a nice lad....but I don't think he looked like making a dancer from the bits we did see tbh!!
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“... Not really, Claire Sweeney was a contestant in Series One. Jill Halfpenny in Series Two - both of them with stage school experience including dance and, iirc correctly, both had appeared in musicals professionally before appearing on SCD...”
“... Not really, Claire Sweeney was a contestant in Series One. Jill Halfpenny in Series Two - both of them with stage school experience including dance and, iirc correctly, both had appeared in musicals professionally before appearing on SCD...”
I didn't mean we didn't see celebs with previous experience in the early series. We've always had celebs with previous experience, but they were in the minority. Plus as I said, I don't mind some previous experience, so stage school, etc. is okay because dance is usually just part of the general curriculum. It's celebs who trained to be dancers I would prefer not to be on the show.
No trashy Z listers please. No one famous for just being in Big Brother or any TOWIE like stuff or people famous for who they date. No serial tabloid favourites or people famous for what they do in their private life rather than what their job is (if they have one at all)
No one whose inclusion would totally overshadow the other contestants or even the show due to media interest for whatever reason. I know the bookers want "big names" to draw people in, which is fine, but no-one who is too divaish or there to whip up controversy such as a typical Celeb Big Brother contestant.
this too.
No one whose inclusion would totally overshadow the other contestants or even the show due to media interest for whatever reason. I know the bookers want "big names" to draw people in, which is fine, but no-one who is too divaish or there to whip up controversy such as a typical Celeb Big Brother contestant.
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I didn't mean we didn't see celebs with previous experience in the early series. We've always had celebs with previous experience, but they were in the minority. Plus as I said, I don't mind some previous experience, so stage school, etc. is okay because dance is usually just part of the general curriculum. It's celebs who trained to be dancers I would prefer not to be on the show.”
“I didn't mean we didn't see celebs with previous experience in the early series. We've always had celebs with previous experience, but they were in the minority. Plus as I said, I don't mind some previous experience, so stage school, etc. is okay because dance is usually just part of the general curriculum. It's celebs who trained to be dancers I would prefer not to be on the show.”
this too.
Originally Posted by RoseAnne:
“No one whose inclusion would totally overshadow the other contestants or even the show due to media interest for whatever reason. I know the bookers want "big names" to draw people in, which is fine, but no-one who is too divaish or there to whip up controversy such as a typical Celeb Big Brother contestant.”
“No one whose inclusion would totally overshadow the other contestants or even the show due to media interest for whatever reason. I know the bookers want "big names" to draw people in, which is fine, but no-one who is too divaish or there to whip up controversy such as a typical Celeb Big Brother contestant.”
Of course there was one so-called big name this year, who proved to be a bit of a damp squib!
I'd like to see a series in which a young man wasn't chosen to win in week one, by women who picked out the contestant they fancied the most. Fortunately, Harry Judd and Jay are very, good dancers. Louis Smith wasn't. Also fortunately, Kara Tointon was an excellent dancer so when she won - no problem. However, the dancing seemed hardly relevant to those who were in Disney mode, about the Artem/ Kara romance. Had she danced like a dead halibut, she might still have won.
An ideal candidate for the ' Ooh !' votes would be actor Aidan Turner. Ten years of ballroom and Latin training and competitions but not as an adult. SCD won't be able to get him though. I'd go ' Ooh' as well but as he'd be able to dance - fair enough. ..although I'd vote for the best dancer rather than automatically, for an ' Ooh' contestant.
So although I don't much like to see ringers, maybe it's necessary, to prevent someone winning in future who can't dance for toffee but he looks, good.
Ideally, no one with previous dance training. Realistically, some now have to I think or we could end up with a winner who makes the show look completely daft.
An ideal candidate for the ' Ooh !' votes would be actor Aidan Turner. Ten years of ballroom and Latin training and competitions but not as an adult. SCD won't be able to get him though. I'd go ' Ooh' as well but as he'd be able to dance - fair enough. ..although I'd vote for the best dancer rather than automatically, for an ' Ooh' contestant.
So although I don't much like to see ringers, maybe it's necessary, to prevent someone winning in future who can't dance for toffee but he looks, good.
Ideally, no one with previous dance training. Realistically, some now have to I think or we could end up with a winner who makes the show look completely daft.
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“Of course there was one so-called big name this year, who proved to be a bit of a damp squib!”
“Of course there was one so-called big name this year, who proved to be a bit of a damp squib!”
Who ?
[An ideal candidate for the ' Ooh !' votes would be actor Aidan Turner. Ten years of ballroom and Latin training and competitions but not as an adult. SCD won't be able to get him though. I'd go ' Ooh' as well but as he'd be able to dance - fair enough. ..although I'd vote for the best dancer rather than automatically, for an ' Ooh' contestant.
So although I don't much like to see ringers, maybe it's necessary, to prevent someone winning in future who can't dance for toffee but he looks, good.
Ideally, no one with previous dance training. Realistically, some now have to I think or we could end up with a winner who makes the show look completely daft.[/quote]
I too would have loved to see Aiden on the show, but his past experience will surely rule him out. Shame
So although I don't much like to see ringers, maybe it's necessary, to prevent someone winning in future who can't dance for toffee but he looks, good.
Ideally, no one with previous dance training. Realistically, some now have to I think or we could end up with a winner who makes the show look completely daft.[/quote]
I too would have loved to see Aiden on the show, but his past experience will surely rule him out. Shame
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“If Aidan Turner were signed I'd be quite happy especially knowing he has a dance background.”
“If Aidan Turner were signed I'd be quite happy especially knowing he has a dance background.”
Maybe Aidan Turner and Mark Cavendish should do a special strictly.
It would be very popular I think.
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“If Aidan Turner were signed I'd be quite happy especially knowing he has a dance background.”
“If Aidan Turner were signed I'd be quite happy especially knowing he has a dance background.”
Problem is that Aiden has specifically Ballroom and Latin background, and to a seemingly high level too. SCD could not overlook this unfortunately.
I think that it's more honest to say 'more of the people I like' and 'less of the people I don't like'. Training, past reality TV experience, attitude to the judges, twitter followers - it's all a problem if you don't like someone and not a problem if you do. Most of my favourite people on Strictly were people I didn't know before and I didn't particularly think I'd like. People win you over or they don't.
(Though of course I am a woman so my opinion is just hormones and doesn't count of anything, obviously.)
(Though of course I am a woman so my opinion is just hormones and doesn't count of anything, obviously.)
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“I think that it's more honest to say 'more of the people I like' and 'less of the people I don't like'. Training, past reality TV experience, attitude to the judges, twitter followers - it's all a problem if you don't like someone and not a problem if you do. Most of my favourite people on Strictly were people I didn't know before and I didn't particularly think I'd like. People win you over or they don't.
(Though of course I am a woman so my opinion is just hormones and doesn't count of anything, obviously.)”
“I think that it's more honest to say 'more of the people I like' and 'less of the people I don't like'. Training, past reality TV experience, attitude to the judges, twitter followers - it's all a problem if you don't like someone and not a problem if you do. Most of my favourite people on Strictly were people I didn't know before and I didn't particularly think I'd like. People win you over or they don't.
(Though of course I am a woman so my opinion is just hormones and doesn't count of anything, obviously.)”
I don't have any problem at all with past dance training, unless it is specifically Ballroom and Latin. Any past dance experience/ training is certainly an advantage, but if you are ballroom/latin trained, it would be an unfair advantage.
Originally Posted by Stockingfiller:
“I'd like to see a series in which a young man wasn't chosen to win in week one, by women who picked out the contestant they fancied the most. Fortunately, Harry Judd and Jay are very, good dancers. Louis Smith wasn't. Also fortunately, Kara Tointon was an excellent dancer so when she won - no problem. However, the dancing seemed hardly relevant to those who were in Disney mode, about the Artem/ Kara romance. Had she danced like a dead halibut, she might still have won.
An ideal candidate for the ' Ooh !' votes would be actor Aidan Turner. Ten years of ballroom and Latin training and competitions but not as an adult. SCD won't be able to get him though. I'd go ' Ooh' as well but as he'd be able to dance - fair enough. ..although I'd vote for the best dancer rather than automatically, for an ' Ooh' contestant.
So although I don't much like to see ringers, maybe it's necessary, to prevent someone winning in future who can't dance for toffee but he looks, good.
Ideally, no one with previous dance training. Realistically, some now have to I think or we could end up with a winner who makes the show look completely daft.”
“I'd like to see a series in which a young man wasn't chosen to win in week one, by women who picked out the contestant they fancied the most. Fortunately, Harry Judd and Jay are very, good dancers. Louis Smith wasn't. Also fortunately, Kara Tointon was an excellent dancer so when she won - no problem. However, the dancing seemed hardly relevant to those who were in Disney mode, about the Artem/ Kara romance. Had she danced like a dead halibut, she might still have won.
An ideal candidate for the ' Ooh !' votes would be actor Aidan Turner. Ten years of ballroom and Latin training and competitions but not as an adult. SCD won't be able to get him though. I'd go ' Ooh' as well but as he'd be able to dance - fair enough. ..although I'd vote for the best dancer rather than automatically, for an ' Ooh' contestant.
So although I don't much like to see ringers, maybe it's necessary, to prevent someone winning in future who can't dance for toffee but he looks, good.
Ideally, no one with previous dance training. Realistically, some now have to I think or we could end up with a winner who makes the show look completely daft.”
BIB
Harry Judd was a novice at dancing. His previous dance training was 1 week of Paso training with Ola, the previous year - for which he was penalised one week's training with Aliona and didn't dance the Paso on Strictly.
Harry became a superb Ballroom dancer through his aptitude to learn Ballroom and Aliona's training.
At 2:20 Harry says he's not used to dancing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jIPyD2DlLE
NB: Aliona looking HOT in the Jive training.
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“Problem is that Aiden has specifically Ballroom and Latin background, and to a seemingly high level too. SCD could not overlook this unfortunately.”
“Problem is that Aiden has specifically Ballroom and Latin background, and to a seemingly high level too. SCD could not overlook this unfortunately.”
Such a shame. It would be great to see a good looking man on SCD who was a superb dancer but I take your point.
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“I don't have any problem at all with past dance training, unless it is specifically Ballroom and Latin. Any past dance experience/ training is certainly an advantage, but if you are ballroom/latin trained, it would be an unfair advantage.”
“I don't have any problem at all with past dance training, unless it is specifically Ballroom and Latin. Any past dance experience/ training is certainly an advantage, but if you are ballroom/latin trained, it would be an unfair advantage.”
A good illustration of your point is Jay - who has a great aptitude for learning to dance beautifully, but found excellent Ballroom technique more difficult to achieve than Harry Judd did.
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“A good illustration of your point is Jay - who has a great aptitude for learning to dance beautifully, but found excellent Ballroom technique more difficult to achieve than Harry Judd did.”
“A good illustration of your point is Jay - who has a great aptitude for learning to dance beautifully, but found excellent Ballroom technique more difficult to achieve than Harry Judd did.”
Exactly. I also had no problem with Natalie Gumede, another trained dancer. It was a good standard on SCD this year, so hope that the trend continues in 2016.
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“Problem is that Aiden has specifically Ballroom and Latin background, and to a seemingly high level too. SCD could not overlook this unfortunately.”
“Problem is that Aiden has specifically Ballroom and Latin background, and to a seemingly high level too. SCD could not overlook this unfortunately.”
Not getting at you Jennifer, but his name is AIDAN! Aiden Turner is another actor chiefly on UK TV.
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“Not getting at you Jennifer, but his name is AIDAN! Aiden Turner is another actor chiefly on UK TV.”
“Not getting at you Jennifer, but his name is AIDAN! Aiden Turner is another actor chiefly on UK TV.”
Oops, sorry
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“I don't have any problem at all with past dance training, unless it is specifically Ballroom and Latin. Any past dance experience/ training is certainly an advantage, but if you are ballroom/latin trained, it would be an unfair advantage.”
“I don't have any problem at all with past dance training, unless it is specifically Ballroom and Latin. Any past dance experience/ training is certainly an advantage, but if you are ballroom/latin trained, it would be an unfair advantage.”
Agree. Look at Jay's 'Early steps' video - can see he did dance as a teenager as he could spin, but the rest? Didn't seem to be a lot of help early on.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p032w3tc
The main thing with previous dance training is to be up front about it - which this year's contestants were - so the viewers can take it into consideration.
Don't mind in future years if there are two or three with dance training or experience - as long as we know about it. But there were too many this year - 5 is too much!
(I liked Jay back then for his local charity work - but didn't think he'd win.)
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