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EE - still waiting for Shirley to apologise to Linda...
So Buster had the decency to apologise to Linda straight away. Still waiting for Shirley to apologise and get redeemed just the smallest amount for her horrendous actions...
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Buster only apologized to Mick. He didn't mention Linda but he should have done.
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It's really not hard for them to script in a simple apology, I don't know why the writing for Shirley has become so bad. They portray her as so rude these days, it never used to be the case!
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Well it's only been one episode, if she doesn't afterwards then it show what we thought all along.
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It's really not hard for them to script in a simple apology, I don't know why the writing for Shirley has become so bad. They portray her as so rude these days, it never used to be the case!
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I found it unbelievable that Buster only apologised to Mick. He wasn't the one that was raped!
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To be fair, I think Shirley is too shell shocked to say anything. She has spent months defending Dean to all and sundry and she's not only had the shocking realisation that she's been in the wrong and defending someone who was not worth defending but she also moments before tried to drown him. Don't think she's able to really say anything at this point lol
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It's really not hard for them to script in a simple apology, I don't know why the writing for Shirley has become so bad. They portray her as so rude these days, it never used to be the case!
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To be fair, I think Shirley is too shell shocked to say anything. She has spent months defending Dean to all and sundry and she's not only had the shocking realisation that she's been in the wrong and defending someone who was not worth defending but she also moments before tried to drown him. Don't think she's able to really say anything at this point lol
But she should apologise for going around calling Linda all the names under the sun while simultaneously trying to turn her own family against her. |
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I found it unbelievable that Buster only apologised to Mick. He wasn't the one that was raped!
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Nobody expects Shirley to apologise for defending her son. She did what any mother would do.
But she should apologise for going around calling Linda all the names under the sun while simultaneously trying to turn her own family against her. |
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That annoyed me too. OK, Mick is his son, but he was not the victim in all of this, Linda was.
It was his wife..... and he said sorry for not believing him |
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It's really not hard for them to script in a simple apology, I don't know why the writing for Shirley has become so bad. They portray her as so rude these days, it never used to be the case!
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It was his wife..... and he said sorry for not believing him
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Buster only apologized to Mick. He didn't mention Linda but he should have done.
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I found it unbelievable that Buster only apologised to Mick. He wasn't the one that was raped!
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Nobody expects Shirley to apologise for defending her son. She did what any mother would do.
But she should apologise for going around calling Linda all the names under the sun while simultaneously trying to turn her own family against her. She was all talk, but she never really believed him imo. |
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Yes, his wife was the victim, NOT Mick. She was the one who really deserved an apology.
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Tbh, I do. I don't think that Shirley has been potrayed as someone who really believed that her son was innocent. Not only did Dean's defence make no sense at all, Shirley also lived with Linda and acted like she believed her after Dean went away. She did a random 180 on that for some reason.
She was all talk, but she never really believed him imo. |
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Tbh, I do. I don't think that Shirley has been potrayed as someone who really believed that her son was innocent. Not only did Dean's defence make no sense at all, Shirley also lived with Linda and acted like she believed her after Dean went away. She did a random 180 on that for some reason.
She was all talk, but she never really believed him imo.
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Shirely won't apologise. She is a despicable woman, selfish and self obsessed beyond belief.
She finds out her son is a rapist and she pops off to the mini mart for a bottle of vodka and 20 fags no doubt. She passed Mick on the bench and didn't have the decency or courtesy to tell him. Even trying to murder Dean was out of selfishness. She didn't seem remotely moved by any of it and resorting to that seemed like her trying to get rid of the problem rather than face up to it. Of course now we'll have her and Mick having teary reunions and Shirley trying to edge Linda out of the picture again ![]()
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Shirely won't apologise. She is a despicable woman, selfish and self obsessed beyond belief.
She finds out her son is a rapist and she pops off to the mini mart for a bottle of vodka and 20 fags no doubt. She passed Mick on the bench and didn't have the decency or courtesy to tell him. Even trying to murder Dean was out of selfishness. She didn't seem remotely moved by any of it and resorting to that seemed like her trying to get rid of the problem rather than face up to it. Of course now we'll have her and Mick having teary reunions and Shirley trying to edge Linda out of the picture again ![]() ![]() |
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Exactly.
I agree. It's very inconsistent writing really, Shirley defending him so adamantly but actually seeming full of doubt all along. Quote:
I think the random 180 was due to the storyline being changed at the last minute, because they decided to extend Matt Di Angelo's contract. The story looked like it was wrapping up at the beginning of the year - Linda told the police, Dean disappeared, Shirley started to believe Linda - then suddenly Dean randomly returned and Shirley turned on Linda again
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Shirley does owe Linda an apology. As disrespectful as this may sound, I would expect some of the comments in this thread from a 5 year old. Yes, she was doing what most mother's would do but unfortunately her judgement was incorrect and, as a result, caused further distress to the victim.
People make mistakes which is why the world sorry is useful. You show humility by acknowledging the mistake made and the damage caused. |
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The Creature doesn't do apologies.
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It's only been one episode and Shirley was pretty stunned by the events and didn't seem capable of speaking after trying to down Dean. I am sure there will be a moment where it is just linda and Shirley and Shirley will tell linda how wrong she was and how sorry she is. Probably on linda's wedding day.
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I have never bought into this huge vendetta Shirley supposedly has against Linda which made it convenient for her to take Dean's side. What they have is a mutual personality clash and both have said things about the other. Shirley made snide comments about Linda and Linda did the same to Mick and Sharon about Shirley. However, they rubbed along fine for the most part. If the hatred was deep on either side then neither would've been able to live with the other. I mean there is so little to reference re: Shirley hating Linda that people have to hark back to a months old comment to prove a point eg. Shirley telling Linda her kids don't like her which was a single remark made in the heat of the moment in what wasn't even a row between Linda and Shirley. It was said after Linda interfered in a situation with Dean and Shirley. Linda and Shirley were fine with each other before and after that incident.
Re: the rape aftermath. Linda recognised that Shirley was doing what any mother would and that her and Mick would probably react similarly were it one of their kids. Maybe they would be less aggressive about it but they would have plenty to say if Lee was accused of raping a girl and was denying it. Shirley called Linda a home-wrecker, a liar and a tart(?) in a handful of scenes way back in the first few months of 2015. They barely interacted after that. Shirley obviously realised that attacking Linda was getting her nowhere and stopped. I have seen the words 'constant' and 'terrorise' used both of which are out of proportion to what was shown. And sorry but I find the latter distasteful in light of recent events in the news. Shirley was even said to have turned Lee and Nancy against their mum when she did no such thing. She wouldn't tell them what was going on when she moved into the Vic last January. Moving herself and Dean into the pub - with Stan's blessing - was the worst thing she did but it still doesn't amount to 'terrorising' Linda who wasn't even there IMO. Shirley had doubts about Dean a few months into the storyline but soon quashed them particularly when he emotionally blackmailed her. It's easy to say Dean slipped up in his story etc, but Shirley is his mother who didn't want to believe he had raped Linda and this naturally would affect her outlook on the situation. Unless the holes in his story were gaping - which they weren't; after all Shirley wasn't the only one to believe Dean - then she was never going to pick up on them. From the preview it looks like she genuinely feels bad about everything and doesn't want to go to the wedding http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03ch17p hardly despicable. |
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