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Old 03-04-2016, 18:14
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I lkie Sammy a lot, but not many of the rest of the Windies team.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:15
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Have to admit if I wanted any other side, other than England, to win it, it would be WI. Always so entertaining
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:16
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Guessing your cricket knowledge is minimal

1 he is not a disgrace, his performances in the rest of the tournament show that
2 the batsmen were superb at the end
3 he is one of our best death bowlers. It happens
Not even in Twenty20 matches do many overs go for 19, especially in that position. And certainly not four balls for 24!

I should have been clearer though so I do apologise - what happened there was disgraceful; Stokes isn't a joke overall. After Root, or possibly alongside Root, he's our key player. But, as good as the batting was, the bowling was poor.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:17
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Not bad though for the indies. U19 world T20 Champions........Women's T20 world Champions and now the Men's world Champions
Just wish west indies would learn how to play and win test matches!!

take this all day though. to win all 3 is some achievement
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:19
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Not bad though for the indies. U19 world T20 Champions........Women's T20 world Champions and now the Men's world Champions
I know its a different form of the game but its amazing how well their t20 game is going for their teams across the board compared to the test team woes.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:19
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My mums side of the family are Jamaican. Grew up as a Windies fan and suffered a lot of bad times with it
Enjoy it man, My next door neighbour is a West indian and i can see how sad it is to see the decline of the side.


Hopefully the good times for west indies stay for a long time and not a short blip.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:22
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I know its a different form of the game but its amazing how well their t20 game is going for their teams across the board compared to the test team woes.
Enjoy it man, My next door neighbour is a West indian and i can see how sad it is to see the decline of the side.


Hopefully the good times for west indies stay for a long time and not a short blip.
I hope so. I know some Aussie commentators were calling for the West Indies to drop to a second division test level. Never. We need them to be great again
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:22
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I know its a different form of the game but its amazing how well their t20 game is going for their teams across the board compared to the test team woes.
I wonder if the West Indies have the patience for the longer form game - they prefer trying to be on the front foot from the off which means restrictive bowling or lack of wickets frustrate.

At this level, though, when you need that trait... wow.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:23
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I once saw Shaun Pollock take 4 wickets in 4 balls for Warwickshire but this was simply astonishing given the circumstance.
Ranking up with the best sequences in Cricket history. Sad for Stokes but its a big challenge for him to deal with this in his head.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:23
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Just wish west indies would learn how to play and win test matches!!

take this all day though. to win all 3 is some achievement
Personally think WI need to show more pride in playing for their country more.
A lot of the time in ODI and Test cricket the players don't want to play for their country.
only seen them show up in certain situation, either by sledging them or in some ICC events.

Even my Next door neighbour can see this.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:24
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The West Indies don't seem to give a monkeys about tests anymore. Half their best players don't play in their games now from when I've seen them.

As well as arguments over money are never far away.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:25
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Wouldn't like to be Ben Stokes locker door today
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:26
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TBH WI players don't really care much about anything.
They only cared about the English test because graves was dopey.
They don't care about Odi/Test or any bilateral games either.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:29
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I hope so. I know some Aussie commentators were calling for the West Indies to drop to a second division test level. Never. We need them to be great again
Dropping them to a second division test level not that bad option really since the players need motivation to perform and Test cricket needs Context to make Test Cricket interesting in every country barring Australia and England.

Even AB is saying he is losing motivation to play Test cricket because it has no meaning.

But no one came up with a workable idea yet that suits everyone.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:29
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Morgan says the batting lost it for England but the West Indies needed 19 from that final over. The bowling lost it for us as much as the batting.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:30
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Samuels is a legend there lol.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:30
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Awkward speech
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:31
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Rather ungracious of Samuels to use the trophy presentation to settle his own personal score.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:32
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I wonder if the West Indies have the patience for the longer form game - they prefer trying to be on the front foot from the off which means restrictive bowling or lack of wickets frustrate.

At this level, though, when you need that trait... wow.
It musnt be forgotten that the Windies dominated tests ferociously for 20 years with hardly a reserved defensive form of Cricket. Its 20/20 which is changing Cricket and which is turning heads of players and worldwide audiences alike (although I have to say not mine). Its hard to see Tests being central to the game in any future, other than being carried by the shorter form.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:33
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Morgan says the batting lost it for England but the West Indies needed 19 from that final over. The bowling lost it for us as much as the batting.
Again I disagree with you. 18 of those 20 overs were pretty good. Only 2 were fairly expensive. England didn't get 170 which lost them the game. Batting lost it for me. The bowlers did ok
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:33
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Dropping them to a second division test level not that bad option really since the players need motivation to perform and Test cricket needs Context to make Test Cricket interesting in every country barring Australia and England.
Every summer we have thousands of people playing for nothing. Their motivation is just to play the game
Even AB is saying he is losing motivation to play Test cricket because it has no meaning.
Every game has meaning
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:34
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God doesnt care about cricket matches,
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:35
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Again I disagree with you. 18 of those 20 overs were pretty good. Only 2 were fairly expensive. England didn't get 170 which lost them the game. Batting lost it for me. The bowlers did ok
Another 10 runs and we would have been fine. If we had controlled the final over we would have been fine. We did neither.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:35
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Rather ungracious of Samuels to use the trophy presentation to settle his own personal score.
Sammy's joining in, quoting Mark Nicholas and others.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:35
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This West Indies presentation reminds me of the one Father Ted had when he received the Golden Cleric.
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