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International Cricket 2016
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alanwarwic
28-05-2016
i have long thought that there are simply too many international games, leaving domestic cricket as a badly dressed cinderella.
Bhaveshgor
28-05-2016
Agree 4 year cycle would be too long, think 2 year might work though.
Bhaveshgor
28-05-2016
Holding idea is pretty good and would solve the need of div 2 teams having india touring them.
footygirl
28-05-2016
Also think that the Emirates should get more international cricket, beautiful setting for test cricket venue and decent weather.

But test cricket grounds seem to centre around London, Birmingham, Manchester
Darren Lethem
28-05-2016
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Also think that the Emirates should get more international cricket, beautiful setting for test cricket venue and decent weather.

But test cricket grounds seem to centre around London, Birmingham, Manchester”

Remember though, test grounds apply for matches and they don't all apply for many. Sometimes only one test so it's their choice not ECB


PS - Up the Tigers
footygirl
28-05-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Remember though, test grounds apply for matches and they don't all apply for many. Sometimes only one test so it's their choice not ECB


PS - Up the Tigers”

So if six venues each applied for one of a five test series how is it decided who gets what
Thrasymachus
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Also think that the Emirates should get more international cricket, beautiful setting for test cricket venue and decent weather.

But test cricket grounds seem to centre around London, Birmingham, Manchester”

I agree and it would be nice if they didn't get lumbered with one of the tests in May.
davethecue
29-05-2016
A more revolutionary idea may be to give the 'May' Tests away for nothing and up the charges for the bigger , more established grounds that generally sell out anyway

Pull the 'lucky' grounds out of a hat and ensure that the ground meets all the standards etc

This would enable cheaper tickets so that the likes of you and me could actually go to more than a day's play without having to re-mortgage !

It would also take Test cricket to the youngsters who generally can't afford to go unless it's the last day with very little play expected

Look what happened at Lords a couple of years ago when they made it a tenner (iirc) for the last day

The ground was full of youngsters

Unfortunately, I can't see this happening as the money men wont let it happen

They prefer to sit back and watch clubs struggle as long as they get their percentage

It's a disgrace that ambitious clubs such as Durham and Glamorgan should have to put everything at risk in an effort to provide Test Cricket for their local communities
Bhaveshgor
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“So if six venues each applied for one of a five test series how is it decided who gets what”

Thing is Counties don't apply for individual test matches they given out by packages.
essentially these are the packages.
Platinum 2 test a year
1 test a year packages.

and then their the mixed package IE a test, few odi and T20 which the likes of Durham, Glamorgan and Southamption usually have.

Counties essentially bid for a number of games during a 4-5 yr period.
ECB then give the games out based on what the counties win.

This is usually why Old Trafford, Headingley and big grounds sometimes get annoyed when their lose Ashes or Marquee games since they feel entitled to the games.
footygirl
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Thing is Counties don't apply for individual test matches they given out by packages.
essentially these are the packages.
Platinum 2 test a year
1 test a year packages.

and then their the mixed package IE a test, few odi and T20 which the likes of Durham, Glamorgan and Southamption usually have.

Counties essentially bid for a number of games during a 4-5 yr period.
ECB then give the games out based on what the counties win.

This is usually why Old Trafford, Headingley and big grounds sometimes get annoyed when their lose Ashes or Marquee games since they feel entitled to the games.”

So what have Surrey and Middlesex won recently
footygirl
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“A more revolutionary idea may be to give the 'May' Tests away for nothing and up the charges for the bigger , more established grounds that generally sell out anyway

Pull the 'lucky' grounds out of a hat and ensure that the ground meets all the standards etc

This would enable cheaper tickets so that the likes of you and me could actually go to more than a day's play without having to re-mortgage !

It would also take Test cricket to the youngsters who generally can't afford to go unless it's the last day with very little play expected

Look what happened at Lords a couple of years ago when they made it a tenner (iirc) for the last day

The ground was full of youngsters

Unfortunately, I can't see this happening as the money men wont let it happen

They prefer to sit back and watch clubs struggle as long as they get their percentage

It's a disgrace that ambitious clubs such as Durham and Glamorgan should have to put everything at risk in an effort to provide Test Cricket for their local communities”


I see no reason why both Lords and The Oval should each get a test in a series, maybe they could alternate,

So one for London, now two candidates in the Midlands in Edgbaston and Trent Bridge, again alternate them.

Headingley and Old Trafford can alternate,

This gives more opportunities to Durham, Glamkrgan and Hampshire to get a test match
bradybrady
29-05-2016
Will England enforce the follow on today ?

They said that it was only the weather forecast that made them do it in the 1st Test

We may yet get some Bank Holiday cricket
Bhaveshgor
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“So what have Surrey and Middlesex won recently”

Lords will always have the platinum package and Headingley got a test every year till 2019, so has oval.
Trent bridge got a test in most years as well so essentially 5 test per year are already given out and 5 grounds are fighting for 2 test a year.
footygirl
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Lords will always have the platinum package and Headingley got a test every year till 2019, so has oval.
Trent bridge got a test in most years as well so essentially 5 test per year are already given out and 5 grounds are fighting for 2 test a year.”

Seems unfair, why should fans from the North East have to pay to travel to matches before even the cost of tickets enter the equation
Bhaveshgor
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by bradybrady:
“Will England enforce the follow on today ?

They said that it was only the weather forecast that made them do it in the 1st Test

We may yet get some Bank Holiday cricket”

depends on how long england bat since they will surely set a target around 400 and they may only need 100 runs or so to achieve it.
reckon they will declare after Compton gets out.
they will give compton an opportunity to score runs and then they will bat like they would in a T20.

if Compton score runs not sure it should count much considering it was against Sri lanka when they been getting thrashed, is failings in the first innings should count more than scoring runs in the 2nd innings.
Reckon Compton need 3 good innings to get a place in the Pakistan series and then score bucket load of runs in county cricket between the series.
dtcdtcdtc
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by bradybrady:
“Will England enforce the follow on today ?

They said that it was only the weather forecast that made them do it in the 1st Test

We may yet get some Bank Holiday cricket”

They seemed to believe on the Verdict that England will enforce the follow on
dtcdtcdtc
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Seems unfair, why should fans from the North East have to pay to travel to matches before even the cost of tickets enter the equation”

It may be down to the size of the population in the London area

I would always have a Test at both Lords and the Oval

can't remember when the Oval wasn't the venue for the final Test of the summer

Seems always to have been the way in my lifetime
swingaleg
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by bradybrady:
“Will England enforce the follow on today ?

They said that it was only the weather forecast that made them do it in the 1st Test

We may yet get some Bank Holiday cricket”

Be good if England could wrap it up quickly then we might get the Roses match on 5Live Sports Extra !
dtcdtcdtc
29-05-2016
They also said on the Verdict that Cricket Writers is on this morning at 10am hosted by Paul Allott
swingaleg
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“PS - Up the Tigers”

Well done DL !.......
Callum Collum
29-05-2016
Unfortunately Sri Lanka were shocking yesterday. Well done England though. Moeen and Woakes did particularly well but you wonder whether the standard of opposition needs to be taken into account.
swingaleg
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by dtcdtcdtc:
“They also said on the Verdict that Cricket Writers is on this morning at 10am hosted by Paul Allott”

It's in the Radio Times but only on for 30 minutes
footygirl
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by dtcdtcdtc:
“It may be down to the size of the population in the London area

I would always have a Test at both Lords and the Oval

can't remember when the Oval wasn't the venue for the final Test of the summer

Seems always to have been the way in my lifetime”

My point is that there are other venues equally deserving of test match cricket, and why should fans from the North East have to repeatedly travel to London, Birmingham, Nottingham, Leeds or Manchester to watch matches in person
mimik1uk
29-05-2016
not sure if they will enforce the follow-on , it was mentioned yesterday that it was touch and go at headingley whether they were going to bat again or not
mimik1uk
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“My point is that there are other venues equally deserving of test match cricket, and why should fans from the North East have to repeatedly travel to London, Birmingham, Nottingham, Leeds or Manchester to watch matches in person”

because lifes not fair and those other grounds are in bigger population centres and are more likely to sell out their games
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