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In county games Vince averaged under 29 last season, and unlike Butler it is not as if his one day stuff has been that attention grabbing.
Bring back Colly!
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Yeah, good point about the one-dayers, I keep forgetting we're kinda good at them nowadays, after so many years
![]() ![]() he might get a gig in india with it being 5 Test series they would need at least 2 batsman in reserve. |
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Vince has a first class average of 40.... That's not good enough
He has a tendency to get out cheaply in tough conditions or against an attack with 3-4 quality bowlers. tends to feast on bad bowling. Hampshire fans say he got an average technique and he struggles to know which shot to play at good deliveries and tends to get out a lot on pretty 20-30s. In reality he a poor version of Ian bell, or Michael Vaughan. Would still give him 4 more test matches. Vince is more suited to the white ball cricket for england. |
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Also getting dropped from a test team because it is found your technique isn't strong enough or you got a certain struggle against certain type of bowlers or conditions isn't a bad thing.
Considering the player could spend time out of the game to improve and become better later. Just look at bairstow he was out of his depth 2 yrs could barely scores 50s in Test and now the kid averages 160 in the last 5-7 test and average a tick over 40, was 22 last year. |
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Averages low 30s against Div 1 sides and does have an awful lions record.
He has a tendency to get out cheaply in tough conditions or against an attack with 3-4 quality bowlers. tends to feast on bad bowling. Hampshire fans say he got an average technique and he struggles to know which shot to play at good deliveries and tends to get out a lot on pretty 20-30s. In reality he a poor version of Ian bell, or Michael Vaughan. Would still give him 4 more test matches. Vince is more suited to the white ball cricket for england. |
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might be the one day cup finals, but that all because of the September effect, September is a horrible time to play cricket especially at 10 am in the morning.
can't see many examples of it in test matches. first innings - 4th innings totals are high at lords. ![]() 13 wickets yesterday on the same track but with different overhead conditions Surely, it must have an effect in June as well as September ? |
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Cricket writers from Lords committee room is better than it has been as at least you can hear what they're saying
Still needs to be on for longer though |
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Cricket writers from Lords committee room is better than it has been as at least you can hear what they're saying
Still needs to be on for longer though |
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I'm near Lords........it's raining !
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warne annoys me sometimes when he is commentating but this has been a really interesting little session he has done on the art of legspin bowling
great point he made about muscle memory and the value of just bowling lots and lots of deliveries so that when you get to a game your action is so honed that you aren't thinking about your technique but just on strategy to get people out |
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warne annoys me sometimes when he is commentating but this has been a really interesting little session he has done on the art of legspin bowling
great point he made about muscle memory and the value of just bowling lots and lots of deliveries so that when you get to a game your action is so honed that you aren't thinking about your technique but just on strategy to get people out ![]() Excellent stuff |
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The limited overs squads are announced on Monday
Big hint that Tymar Mills is i the T20 squad. Hope so as he offers something different http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-...y/1025719.html |
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Early lunch being taken at Lords as it continues to rain
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Yeah, Tymal Mills has got some real pace. That's something that can be useful in Tests though he seems to be focusing on T20 at the moment.
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Yeah, Tymal Mills has got some real pace. That's something that can be useful in Tests though he seems to be focusing on T20 at the moment.
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Yeah, Tymal Mills has got some real pace. That's something that can be useful in Tests though he seems to be focusing on T20 at the moment.
Another Yorkshireman
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It's stopped raining
Play due to start at 2.40pm with tea at 4.40pm and the final session 5-7.30pm |
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It just showed Cook with his pads on in the Pavillion, so it looks like he will be in next
Good news re the injury that it mustn't have done any long lasting damage |
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Hales has reached his 3rd 50 of the series
Lords would be a nice place for him to convert it into 3 figures...... |
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In county games Vince averaged under 29 last season, and unlike Butler it is not as if his one day stuff has been that attention grabbing.
Bring back Colly! ![]() |
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Why r the England team wearing black armbands if for that young cricketer from Bristol?
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The fates are definately with Hales
Bowled off a no ball that wasn't |
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Big luck for Hales
Clean bowled off a no ball that probably shouldn't have been called |
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hales very lucky there
considering the onfield umpires miss so many genuine no-balls and refer close calls when a wicket falls all the time to check for the no-ball i think the bowler can feel rightly aggrieved to lose a wicket when he was actually behind the line and has no right to get it checked |
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Why r the England team wearing black armbands if for that young cricketer from Bristol?
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