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International Cricket 2016
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Bhaveshgor
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“dont think he gave anything away that was overly important bhav

not liking this side today , buttler batting too low at #6 and root the only backup bowling option”

true but not sure England have ever released a plan for the odi stuff before.
with stokes out it is impossible to get 6 bowlers and then a strong batting line up still available.

Rashid is the number 1 spinner in odi and if Ali is dropped then England got a long tail.

Be interesting today since England don't often like bowling all 20 overs of spin and they will have to bowl all 20 overs today.
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“true but not sure England have ever released a plan for the odi stuff before.
with stokes out it is impossible to get 6 bowlers and then a strong batting line up still available.

Rashid is the number 1 spinner in odi and if Ali is dropped then England got a long tail.

Be interesting today since England don't often like bowling all 20 overs of spin and they will have to bowl all 20 overs today.”

with ali, woakes and willey all playing as bowlers and both rashid and plunkett can handle the bat then i dont see why we couldn't have got another bowler in tbh
Bhaveshgor
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“dont think he gave anything away that was overly important bhav

not liking this side today , buttler batting too low at #6 and root the only backup bowling option”

think he had a long chat with Knight yesterday which will be shown during the lunch break.
won't be nothing technical or about players bowling plans but think he told sky everything about what England team will be in the future, what type of bowlers they want and their likely batting order.

Quite interesting really since in the past England never knew their best team or best strategy to win games, so is quite major for morgan to know his best team and the way he wants the team to play 12 months before a major trophy.
Borefest
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Cheapest option is to do this by your self.

Tickets would be very easy to get.
for better advice check out the barmy army forums/Facebook or twitter.

The packages generally charge you a bomb for the tickets/hotel and flight and doing everything can be 50-60% cheaper.

Believe all the tickets for the game should cost around 10 pounds, so if you book the hotel and the flight you are good to watch the games.

None of the games will be a sell out.

the biggest mistake anyone can make is buy tickets through the Barmy army/Howzat or any packages offering guaranteed matches since they charge about 20-30 pounds for the Tickets for the game and can be 100-200% more expensive than literally walking to the stadium and buying it your self.”




Thanks for the advice I will take it on board.
Bhaveshgor
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“with ali, woakes and willey all playing as bowlers and both rashid and plunkett can handle the bat then i dont see why we couldn't have got another bowler in tbh”

it then becomes a game of whether the 6th bowling option outweigh the extra batting option.

I would prefer if the 6th bowling option was a batsman that can bowl some good overs.
Bopara, Samit Patel,
To get 6 bowlers in england would have to drop Bairstow and their team would look like this.
Hales, Roy, Root, Morgan, Buttler, Ali, Woakes, Willey, Rashid, Plunkett, Finn.
Batting doesn't really look that stable since Roy will be a pinch hitter, Morgan not exactly stable and consistent.
Ali, Woakes Willey, Rashid, Plunkett is a long tail if england lose 2-3 early wickets or are chasing a tough/big total.

Stokes is a massive loss if they still want to play 6 bowlers and have 2 spinners as well.
Morgan wanted 4 seam option for the game but couldn't do it without Stokes in the team.

Edit forgot Willey.
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Stokes is a massive loss if they still want to play 6 bowlers and have 2 spinners as well.
Morgan wanted 4 seam option for the game but couldn't do it without Stokes in the team.”

it does all come down to how they replace stokes and they have done it with a specialist batsmen, i just worry about root being our only backup option for the 5 main bowlers and a couple of them can be a bit shaky
Bhaveshgor
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“it does all come down to how they replace stokes and they have done it with a specialist batsmen, i just worry about root being our only backup option for the 5 main bowlers and a couple of them can be a bit shaky”

bowling looks quite weak, the other option is to recall Bopara or some other batsman that can bowl a few overs.
but do they really want an average batsman in the team just so they can bowl 2-4 overs.

Morgan can get away with a bad bowling attack in odi if he can use the bowlers at the right time and essentially choke teams with the field placings.
Essentially if England score more runs than the opposition they win games or can restrict teams to a total they can chase England win again.

with the batting lineup England can field you feel the opposition needs to post 330+ to have a good chance of them winning the game.
really any total around 310 you feel England will chase it 8 times out of 10.
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“bowling looks quite weak, the other option is to recall Bopara or some other batsman that can bowl a few overs.
but do they really want an average batsman in the team just so they can bowl 2-4 overs.

Morgan can get away with a bad bowling attack in odi if he can use the bowlers at the right time and essentially choke teams with the field placings.
Essentially if England score more runs than the opposition they win games or can restrict teams to a total they can chase England win again.

with the batting lineup England can field you feel the opposition needs to post 330+ to have a good chance of them winning the game.
really any total around 310 you feel England will chase it 8 times out of 10.”

please dont use the phrase "recall bopara" it makes me want to throw something at my TV
Bhaveshgor
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“please dont use the phrase "recall bopara" it makes me want to throw something at my TV ”

Did say average batsman in the next sentence.
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
fast start for sri lanka but at the cost of 3 wickets

i dont mind them scoring at 8 per over at this stage if we have 3 wickets in the powerplay too
SULLA
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“it then becomes a game of whether the 6th bowling option outweigh the extra batting option.

I would prefer if the 6th bowling option was a batsman that can bowl some good overs.
Bopara, Samit Patel,
To get 6 bowlers in england would have to drop Bairstow and their team would look like this.
Hales, Roy, Root, Morgan, Buttler, Ali, Woakes, Willey, Rashid, Plunkett, Finn.
Batting doesn't really look that stable since Roy will be a pinch hitter, Morgan not exactly stable and consistent.
Ali, Woakes Willey, Rashid, Plunkett is a long tail if england lose 2-3 early wickets or are chasing a tough/big total.

Stokes is a massive loss if they still want to play 6 bowlers and have 2 spinners as well.
Morgan wanted 4 seam option for the game but couldn't do it without Stokes in the team.

Edit forgot Willey.”

Drop Bairstow ? If I had to drop a batter it would be Morgan.
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
big day for heather knight in her first game as captain

takes a 5fer and 40odd not out with the bat cruising to a win
Bhaveshgor
21-06-2016
great hitting from prassana.
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“great hitting from prassana.”

ali getting whacked around a bit
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
plunkett has lost the plot here as well
Bhaveshgor
21-06-2016
unless england take a wicket here, england chasing something around 330+ here.

EDIT: Woakes takes a wicket now.
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“unless england take a wicket here, england chasing something around 330+ here.

EDIT: Woakes takes a wicket now.”

a reverse jinx
mb@2day
21-06-2016
Pity Morgon didnt make the right change and bring back Woakes instead of Plunketts gift bowling it might have saved us 50 runs !!
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by mb@2day:
“Pity Morgon didnt make the right change and bring back Woakes instead of Plunketts gift bowling it might have saved us 50 runs !!”

supposedly the plan all along had been to bowl plunkett in the middle overs with woakes and willey bowling at the death

with just root as a backup option and moeen ali getting a bit of a pasting i'm not sure what alternative he has but to bowl plunkett
Bhaveshgor
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“a reverse jinx ”

Just did another on twitter, this one was more annoying though since Sri lanka won't get 300 now and would have liked Sri lanka to get a big score so can back England at a high price especially after missing 3 opportunities at 1.50 in this game so far.
mb@2day
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“supposedly the plan all along had been to bowl plunkett in the middle overs with woakes and willey bowling at the death

with just root as a backup option and moeen ali getting a bit of a pasting i'm not sure what alternative he has but to bowl plunkett”

Ah Plunkitts fightback ( at last ) Not sure we have all the answers with our bowling sometimes. Who do we turn to if our 5th bowler goes awol , who could save us
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by mb@2day:
“Ah Plunkitts fightback ( at last ) Not sure we have all the answers with our bowling sometimes. Who do we turn to if our 5th bowler goes awol , who could save us ”

which was the point i made at the start of the game

with bairstow replacing stokes we look light on bowling options
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“big day for heather knight in her first game as captain

takes a 5fer and 40odd not out with the bat cruising to a win”

knight just gets to exactly 50 not out when the game was won

they just said on coverage that its the first time ever in a women's ODI that someone has taken a 5fer and scored a half century
Bhaveshgor
21-06-2016
Crucial period in the game.
literally the 5-7 overs that will decide the game.
England take wickets they win.
Sri lanka score runs they have a very good chance of winning.
mimik1uk
21-06-2016
shanaka can handle the bat and as long as mathews is out there then 300+ is still possible here
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