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mimik1uk
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“Not so sure about that, especially if we spend a day and a half in the field and are then 3/2

Whether he is currently England's best player is open to discussion

I know it sounds mad, but I think Woakes may have that honour .....”

i think woakes has been our best player this summer anyway, i know its a small sample size but he is averaging 44 with the bat and 19.8 with the ball
aurichie
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“Maybe. At the moment we are scoring at 3.16 per over . If that carries on , we will be around 250 when the new ball is due towards the end of play

On a separate note, anyone know the regs on claiming the extra half hour tonight from a batting point of view ?”

Batting side can ask and it's the umpires discretion to decide whether they think the runs can be got in the extra time.
Darren Lethem
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“completely agree, and thats why i also want him to not have to keep as its going to be hard for him to maintain his batting form and keep wicket

his contribution as a batsman is way more important than what he gives us as a keeper so why not let him focus on what he is better at”

Originally Posted by davethecue:
“Not so sure about that, especially if we spend a day and a half in the field and are then 3/2

Whether he is currently England's best player is open to discussion

I know it sounds mad, but I think Woakes may have that honour .....”

I meant batting wise.

When Alec Stewart kept wicket for England where did he bat ? Plus Kimar Sangakara didn't do bad coming in at 3 & 4. I've been advocating Buttlers return but it looks a non starter
davethecue
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by aurichie:
“Batting side can ask and it's the umpires discretion to decide whether they think the runs can be got in the extra time.”

Thank you

Hope it does finish today as I'm at work tomorrow
davethecue
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“I meant batting wise.

When Alec Stewart kept wicket for England where did he bat ? Plus Kimar Sangakara didn't do bad coming in at 3 & 4. I've been advocating Buttlers return but it looks a non starter”

That's a fair point, but like Mimi, I don't think Bairstow would get in the side on keeping alone

I'd play him as a batsman only and get a proper keeper in

I'd also keep Jos to the limited overs stuff until we win the next World Cup
mimik1uk
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“I meant batting wise.

When Alec Stewart kept wicket for England where did he bat ? Plus Kimar Sangakara didn't do bad coming in at 3 & 4. I've been advocating Buttlers return but it looks a non starter”

sangakarra had something like a 26 run difference in his batting average between when he kept and when he played as just as batsman. 66+ as a specialist batsman, 40 as a keeper.

stewart's isn't quite so dramatic but averaged 47 as a specialist bat and just 34 as a keeper
aurichie
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“Thank you

Hope it does finish today as I'm at work tomorrow ”

I'm more than happy to come back tomorrow for an England win. It's probably our best chance just keep nurdling with minimum risk and slowly get towards the target.

I'm very impressed with Bairstow here. He's playing the kind of patient innings that would have been unimaginable a year ago.
mimik1uk
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by davethecue:
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I'd also keep Jos to the limited overs stuff until we win the next World Cup”

i dont think he'll be playing into his 70s
davethecue
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by aurichie:
“I'm more than happy to come back tomorrow for an England win. It's probably our best chance just keep nurdling with minimum risk and slowly get towards the target.

I'm very impressed with Bairstow here. He's playing the kind of patient innings that would have been unimaginable a year ago.”

Oh I agree - just being selfish

2nd warning for Wahab
davethecue
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“i dont think he'll be playing into his 70s ”



I think we have the squad of players with home advantage to win the next one

Mind you, I have been visiting the fridge frequently this afternoon......
Sam_Clarke1
17-07-2016
Good battling partnership for the 7th wicket wearing the bowlers/fielding side down

Like the good old days.....
davethecue
17-07-2016
Woakes survives a review

The Pakistan close fielders seemed very confident as well
mimik1uk
17-07-2016
been an uncomfortable 45 minutes or so with a few edges just dropping short
Callum Collum
17-07-2016
The selectors don't like to chop and change. It would be no surprise to see Jimmy and Stokes come back in but that might be it. One way to go would be to leave out Finn and Ball which would be a little bit hard on both of them, for different reasons and you'd need to be confident about Stokes's bowling. Could we make sure it's not a spinner's pitch?
Sam_Clarke1
17-07-2016
Lower order coming to the party again

Down to double figures
davethecue
17-07-2016
Less than a 100 needed now........
aurichie
17-07-2016
Target below 100!

Come on!!!
aurichie
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“been an uncomfortable 45 minutes or so with a few edges just dropping short”

Needed a lot of luck to ride it out but the flip side is the bowlers will start losing belief and thinking it's not going to be there day now. Runs are starting to flow as they get ever more desperate for a wicket.
davethecue
17-07-2016
and another review goes our way
aurichie
17-07-2016
We'll be favourites with the bookies again in the next 5 minutes.
aurichie
17-07-2016
Cricket is a funny game. I bet if you had asked the Pakistan team if they would take getting England to 191/6 from the start of the fourth innings they would have jumped at it. But right now you get the feeling the belief has been drained from them following that brilliant spell Bairstow and Woakes somehow came through. These two gotta keep going though add another 50 together and we'll win.
owen10
17-07-2016
Can we really win this test when Yasir Shah is still bowling well
davethecue
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by aurichie:
“We'll be favourites with the bookies again in the next 5 minutes. ”

at 195/6, England have become slight favs at 4/5 with Pakistan at Evens
aurichie
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“Can we really win this test when Yasir shah is still bowling well”

Yes. We're favourites now according to the bookies.

Originally Posted by davethecue:
“at 195/6, England have become slight favs at 4/5 with Pakistan at Evens”

Yep big move on that boundary. Evens to 4/5.
Sam_Clarke1
17-07-2016
Cross bat at a straight half tracker
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