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Old 17-01-2016, 03:47
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Just googled Lathwells test record... Played two tests in 1993 and scored 3 times between 20 and 35. Better than I thought. Still remember him looking out of his depth though
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Old 17-01-2016, 04:51
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I think the biggest tournament of 2016 is the T20 world cup. It is going to start from 08 March. I am eagerly waiting for this Tournament.
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Old 17-01-2016, 05:52
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Not changed my mind on Bairstow's keeping, Bairstow clearly deserves his place in the batting line-up, but would rather have Jos behind the stumps. Bairstow really poor with the gloves IMHO.

Get rid of Hales, move Compton to open with Cook, slot Buttler in. Or TBH another 'keeper if one is good enough.
thats my preferred team atm as well

there was a surprising little stat from one of the SA comms at the end of play , thats the 9th time in the last 10 tests that SA have had a run of losing at least 5 wickets for less than 20 runs
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Old 17-01-2016, 11:11
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Another terrific performance from NZ as they chase down 170 to beat Pakistan by 0 wickets in the 2nd T20 and make it 1-1. Martin Guptil is in fantastic form atm

Australia go 3 up against India as well with another big run chase


Shows the levels we will have to get to if we are going to challenge in these forms of the game
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Old 17-01-2016, 11:36
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finn out for the next test

good time to give footitt a game with the series already won
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Old 17-01-2016, 14:26
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Broad is now the world's numbers one bowler !!!!.

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Old 17-01-2016, 23:23
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With the current discussion about whether Bairstow or Buttler is the long term answer to be England's WK I was just looking at how far back we have to go before we had a class WK. Looking down the list is it James Foster or do we have to go back further to Jack Russell with another eight people since then having been given the gloves (mostly Stewart and Prior)?
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Old 18-01-2016, 00:22
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With the current discussion about whether Bairstow or Buttler is the long term answer to be England's WK I was just looking at how far back we have to go before we had a class WK. Looking down the list is it James Foster or do we have to go back further to Jack Russell with another eight people since then having been given the gloves (mostly Stewart and Prior)?
Prior was class for about 4 years. Stewart was much-maligned I felt, would rather have him behind the stumps then anyone current. Except maybe Sarah Taylor, but that's probably not going to happen.
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Old 18-01-2016, 10:37
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Gayle force running riot currently on the big bash. 34 from just 8 balls. Make that 40!
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Old 18-01-2016, 10:39
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Gayle force running riot currently on the big bash. 34 from just 8 balls. Make that 40!
carnage 45 off 11 balls

renegades are 53 off the first 3 overs
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Old 18-01-2016, 10:42
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And there's his 50 in just 12 balls!
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Old 18-01-2016, 10:42
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and goes to his 50 off just 12 balls , equals the fastest ever that i think was when yuvraj hit the 6 6s off broad
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Old 18-01-2016, 11:53
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bopara talking mince in the studio after the game

having a go at the batsmen for taking too many chances against the off-spinner rather than just milking him around and waiting for the seamers coming back on

he seems to forget that the renegades had to win the game with something like 5 overs to spare to make the net run rate needed to get into 4th spot so couldn't afford to waste any overs by just milking the spinner
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Old 18-01-2016, 17:22
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Just watched the Gayle innings. Top stuff

Notice he declined to be interviewed when he was out.....
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Old 18-01-2016, 18:52
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Liam Plunkett has been called into England's limited-overs squad in South Africa after the ECB confirmed that the side strain picked up by Steven Finn during the Johannesburg Test has ended his tour.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-af...ry/963335.html
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Old 18-01-2016, 19:23
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Who will replace Finn in the Test side? I'd quite like to see Footitt get a shot but I guess Woakes is favourite.
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Old 18-01-2016, 20:08
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Aakash Chopra probably one of the best Writers of the Technical aspect of batting.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/962759.html
Crazy how well he explains Batting techniques and the pros and cons of it.
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Old 19-01-2016, 00:47
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Aakash Chopra probably one of the best Writers of the Technical aspect of batting.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/962759.html
Crazy how well he explains Batting techniques and the pros and cons of it.
Interesting piece.. I didn't know Bailey batted with closed stance. I would have thought lbw to right arm is much more likely, got to be so much more nimble on his feet to get the front foot out of the way.
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Old 19-01-2016, 10:19
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Interesting piece.. I didn't know Bailey batted with closed stance. I would have thought lbw to right arm is much more likely, got to be so much more nimble on his feet to get the front foot out of the way.
he wrote some other gem articles on technical batting.
His best one probably on kohli from few years ago.
Nice to see Cricinfo using him more to write stuff, quite sad only the Indian viewers get to see his Cricket zone stuff he does with Star Sports, they call it something else but is basically the same thing Sky do.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/581741.html
Kohli's bat-swing, however, is not quite how the coaching manuals say it ought to be. He has a relatively short backlift, and an even shorter follow-through. But he generates phenomenal bat speed by flicking his wrists at the point of contact, which in turn generates immense power. The flip side of such a bat-swing is that he is a bottom-hand-dominated player. Once again, though, by delaying his strokes, he has found a way to be equally fluent through the off side.
I was a little sceptical about his short front-foot stride. To make matters more complicated, that short stride was going far too across. While the short and across front-foot stride allowed him to whip balls pitched on middle through the on side, it also made him slightly susceptible to full-pitched swinging deliveries, or when the ball deviated appreciably off the pitch.
I was a little sceptical about his short front-foot stride. To make matters more complicated, that short stride was going far too across. While the short and across front-foot stride allowed him to whip balls pitched on middle through the on side, it also made him slightly susceptible to full-pitched swinging deliveries, or when the ball deviated appreciably off the pitch.
Not that many commentators/pundits really talk much about batting techniques I suspect a lot of is hard too see and the other is that it is very hard to explain it.

Aakash chopra probably the only one that I have seen that makes talking about it or writing about it look so easy.
Nasser Hussain/Atherton are ok at it but they don't really explain what is good or bad about the technique, they generally only show what is very bad about it or very good about it.
For example Amla late trigger movement in the Cape Town test match.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/838033.html
interesting even at feb 2015 he picked up amla struggles a year later.
Since Amla launches the bat in through gully, it needs to travel a greater distance, which means he needs to do one of two things to ensure that he isn't late on the ball: one, initiate the downswing a little earlier, or two, bring the bat through quicker than other batsmen do.
in recent times he been doing option 1 starting his trigger movement earlier so he gets to the ball at the right time.
but doing option 1 means his timing could go off the boil which funny enough it did amla looked awful in india and in Durban.
Even in the flat ODI/T20 pitches Amla timing was off the pace.
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Old 19-01-2016, 10:51
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i gotta be honest i take alot of the discussion about techniques with a pinch of salt

look at steve smith , no-one would ever teach him that technique and you wouldn't want to copy it, but it works for him because he has such good hands

there is usually alot of talk about cook's technique when he goes through a dodgy spell , but in reality his technique doesn't really change much between when he is scoring runs and when he isn't, when he scores runs it tends to be because he leaves the ball better

a good technique is what works for the individual, and it then comes down to how good their timing is, how well they are seeing the ball and making good decisions
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Old 19-01-2016, 13:32
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i gotta be honest i take alot of the discussion about techniques with a pinch of salt

look at steve smith , no-one would ever teach him that technique and you wouldn't want to copy it, but it works for him because he has such good hands

there is usually alot of talk about cook's technique when he goes through a dodgy spell , but in reality his technique doesn't really change much between when he is scoring runs and when he isn't, when he scores runs it tends to be because he leaves the ball better

a good technique is what works for the individual, and it then comes down to how good their timing is, how well they are seeing the ball and making good decisions
TBH that the point a lot of the talk about technique doesn't really make sense, only seen Chopra give discussion about technique that makes sense.

Chopra has the same viewpoint like you that technique is overrated but that doesn't mean techniques isn't important.

A lot of the time we hear why people shouldn't bat like Smith or what bad technique means, but we never hear why it is bad and what can actually be good about it only seen Akash chopra explain it at a depth.
The ironic aspect of Smith technique is that his bad technique his the reason why he is so good lol.
His technique literally means Smith has no real weakness, his technique alone means he isn't really gonna be troubled if you bowl at the 4th/5th stump line unless the ball is moving frankly speaking only English conditions will do it.
Great player of spin because of his fast hands and good footwork to the spinners.
Team have even tried bowling straight and full at him to get him bowled or LBW, essentially with his technique he should be struggling with those but those pesky hands make him score off those as well.
Issue teams have against him they have no idea how to keep him quiet, all batsman have an area where you can bowl where they won't score runs off you, smith has no area like that, his weakness can be his strength.

By the way Agree with your points, was thinking more of the tv coverage way and how great it is to know how batsman score runs and know more about the weakness of each technique.
in terms of coverage Batting techniques is poorly covered.

One thing that is fascinating with batting techniques is that when you change one thing it brings another weakness into play which probably explains why every batsman has a different technique.

This wasn't really a discussion about techniques, more off it would be great if we can know more.
I haven't played cricket for years, don't really know anything about batting and would love to know more about batting and how it really work in the top end of the game.
I suspect a lot of people at home would love to know more as well.
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Old 19-01-2016, 19:42
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Thing about smith is you feel that if he does go through a bad patch and loses confidence, he could start to question his technique and may try to reconstruct. It is so reliant on hand eye coordination and quickness of movement...
Agreed in terms of different techniques work for different people, but the article that bhavesgor posted was interesting and unusual techniques such as bailey's rely on the sort of natural ability that Smith has, to work I think.
You can have the the perfect technique as an international batsman,such as Ramps (prob not perfect but loved watching him play) or Hick or whoever but still have a weakness against the creme de la creme of bowlers...
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Old 20-01-2016, 06:56
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Big score by Australia batting first for the first time in this series

348/8

India will do well to chase this down
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Old 20-01-2016, 08:04
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India got off to a good start at 65/1 off 8 overs

May be another exciting run chase I'm going to miss as work beckons
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Old 20-01-2016, 11:28
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India got off to a good start at 65/1 off 8 overs

May be another exciting run chase I'm going to miss as work beckons
What a collapse cruising at 277 for 1 to 323 all out
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