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Wow its all happening
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Don't think that umpire will be getting a Christmas card from Jimmy this year.
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Didn't realise you could be run out by the elbow
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Bit harsh to take Jimmy off for that
Even on the replay, his heel is barely touching the danger area |
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Is it just the innings that Jimmy cant bowl in or is it the match ?
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Is it just the innings that Jimmy cant bowl in or is it the match ?
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just this innings
Shouldn't make too much difference then...(famous last words...) |
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Bit harsh to take Jimmy off for that
Even on the replay, his heel is barely touching the danger area If that sounds like biased bilious argument then it is. |
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interesting point on commentary yesterday ( think it was Nasser and Shane Warne ) about Moeen Ali. Why not just play him as a front line batsman, maybe in for Vince for example and use him as a batsmen who can turn his arm over ( like Root ) and bring in Rashid as main spinner. Quote:
Listening to TMS
Tuffers said that Jimmy got into his lift this morning and he asked jimmy to move a few inches to the right,,,,,, ![]() He said Jimmy smiled ![]() Quote:
Bit harsh to take Jimmy off for that
Even on the replay, his heel is barely touching the danger area Quote:
Umpires are getting jittery as the pakis lead was suddenly under threat. Easy answer take Anderson out for overstepping by one inch !
If that sounds like biased bilious argument then it is. |
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They've been hot on it for both sides this series.
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Ali is not good enough as a batter and not good enough as a bowler
The Umpires do not have the benefit of the coloured strip. |
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100 lead for Pakistan
time for the top order all to chip in |
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100 lead up and cook drops a bit of a dolly
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The stats guy, Andrew, on TMS said that when a team is 100 runs or more behind on 1st innings, the win percentage is 3%
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The stats guy, Andrew, on TMS said that when a team is 100 runs or more behind on 1st innings, the win percentage is 3%
only going to be 21 overs bowled in this afternoon session
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yeah they mentioned it on SKY this morning
only going to be 21 overs bowled in this afternoon session ![]() Edit 20 0vers in the session Disgraceful no matter what the mitigating circumstances are |
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Could be even less with an early tea
edit : at least with it finishing now they dont lose 2 for an innings change but not going to get close to 90 overs today even with the extra half hour |
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Bookies still think this is an even contest.
If England get 350-400 then they're heavy favourites. |
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Bookies still think this is an even contest.
If England get 350-400 then they're heavy favourites. |
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Bookies still think this is an even contest.
If England get 350-400 then they're heavy favourites. History shows that teams dont often score more 2nd time around at Edgbaston so that puts me off backing England |
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well thats been just 46 overs bowled in 2 sessions, 14 overs behind where they should be
edit : at least with it finishing now they dont lose 2 for an innings change but not going to get close to 90 overs today even with the extra half hour Its a total disgrace. Can you see any other game short changing the public of 10 percent of the play ? I've got no answer to slow play its deliberate and its tactical. |
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From Hills :
Match Betting Live 2/1 England 9/4 Draw 5/4 Pakistan |
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Its a total disgrace. Can you see any other game short changing the public of 10 percent of the play ? I've got no answer to slow play its deliberate and its tactical.
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i just think that balance is wrong and if you look at the history of test cricket and the sides that have had most success i doubt you will find many that went into games with just 4 specialist batsmen
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again i thought that was clear, if someone is good enough to be selected as a batsman and gives you the luxury of being good enough to be more than just a part-time bowler then great. but don't pick someone who isn't good enough to get in the team on batting alone just to be able to say "look at all the bowling options we have now" when in reality if you need more than 4 bowlers with some part-time backup then you probably have a bigger problem
I think Moeen's ability as a batsmen to get in the side is very debatable, although you see it as clear-cut I think. They tried him out as a opener at one point, so I think England saw him as good enough. And personally, I would maintain that from the current crop available, I'd still say he was at least as good as Ballance or Vince at the moment. But it's your first quote above that I still don't understand, as a general point. I don't understand why anyone would worry about having only 4 specialist batsmen if the all-rounders were good batsmen themselves. I don't see having extra bowling options as spoiling the balance - I see it as a bonus. I don't think anyone complained about balance when Kallis was batting higher up in the order for SA, and so on. (Just to be 100% clear, I'm not comparing Moeen to Kallis, but making a general point, just as you appear to be doing in that quote.) |
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