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Originally Posted by davethecue:
“Didn't realise you could be run out by the elbow”
“Didn't realise you could be run out by the elbow”
Yeah i did not know they changed the rules
Bit harsh to take Jimmy off for that
Even on the replay, his heel is barely touching the danger area
Even on the replay, his heel is barely touching the danger area
Originally Posted by bradybrady:
“Is it just the innings that Jimmy cant bowl in or is it the match ?”
“Is it just the innings that Jimmy cant bowl in or is it the match ?”
just this innings
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“just this innings”
“just this innings”
Thank you
Shouldn't make too much difference then...(famous last words...)
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“Bit harsh to take Jimmy off for that
Even on the replay, his heel is barely touching the danger area”
“Bit harsh to take Jimmy off for that
Even on the replay, his heel is barely touching the danger area”
Umpires are getting jittery as the pakis lead was suddenly under threat. Easy answer take Anderson out for overstepping by one inch !
If that sounds like biased bilious argument then it is.
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“
interesting point on commentary yesterday ( think it was Nasser and Shane Warne ) about Moeen Ali. Why not just play him as a front line batsman, maybe in for Vince for example and use him as a batsmen who can turn his arm over ( like Root ) and bring in Rashid as main spinner.”
“
interesting point on commentary yesterday ( think it was Nasser and Shane Warne ) about Moeen Ali. Why not just play him as a front line batsman, maybe in for Vince for example and use him as a batsmen who can turn his arm over ( like Root ) and bring in Rashid as main spinner.”
Ali is not good enough as a batter and not good enough as a bowler
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“Listening to TMS
Tuffers said that Jimmy got into his lift this morning and he asked jimmy to move a few inches to the right,,,,,,
He said Jimmy smiled”
“Listening to TMS
Tuffers said that Jimmy got into his lift this morning and he asked jimmy to move a few inches to the right,,,,,,
He said Jimmy smiled
”
I bet he's not smiling now
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“Bit harsh to take Jimmy off for that
Even on the replay, his heel is barely touching the danger area”
“Bit harsh to take Jimmy off for that
Even on the replay, his heel is barely touching the danger area”
He had received two previous warnings
Originally Posted by mb@2day:
“Umpires are getting jittery as the pakis lead was suddenly under threat. Easy answer take Anderson out for overstepping by one inch !
If that sounds like biased bilious argument then it is.”
“Umpires are getting jittery as the pakis lead was suddenly under threat. Easy answer take Anderson out for overstepping by one inch !
If that sounds like biased bilious argument then it is.”
The Umpires do not have the benefit of the coloured strip.
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Ali is not good enough as a batter and not good enough as a bowler
The Umpires do not have the benefit of the coloured strip.”
“Ali is not good enough as a batter and not good enough as a bowler
The Umpires do not have the benefit of the coloured strip.”
I wish they had Sulla. In my old club cricket days on artificial pitches you needed chalk to mark the batsmans guard out. Something similar could help the bowler get it right.
The stats guy, Andrew, on TMS said that when a team is 100 runs or more behind on 1st innings, the win percentage is 3%
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“The stats guy, Andrew, on TMS said that when a team is 100 runs or more behind on 1st innings, the win percentage is 3%”
“The stats guy, Andrew, on TMS said that when a team is 100 runs or more behind on 1st innings, the win percentage is 3%”
yeah they mentioned it on SKY this morning
only going to be 21 overs bowled in this afternoon session
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“yeah they mentioned it on SKY this morning
only going to be 21 overs bowled in this afternoon session”
“yeah they mentioned it on SKY this morning
only going to be 21 overs bowled in this afternoon session
”
Could be even less with an early tea
Edit 20 0vers in the session
Disgraceful no matter what the mitigating circumstances are
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“Could be even less with an early tea”
“Could be even less with an early tea”
well thats been just 46 overs bowled in 2 sessions, 14 overs behind where they should be
edit : at least with it finishing now they dont lose 2 for an innings change
but not going to get close to 90 overs today even with the extra half hour
Originally Posted by Thomas007:
“Bookies still think this is an even contest.
If England get 350-400 then they're heavy favourites.”
“Bookies still think this is an even contest.
If England get 350-400 then they're heavy favourites.”
thats a big if however
Originally Posted by Thomas007:
“Bookies still think this is an even contest.
If England get 350-400 then they're heavy favourites.”
“Bookies still think this is an even contest.
If England get 350-400 then they're heavy favourites.”
7/4 for Yasir to be top wicket taker in the 2nd innings seems a fair price
History shows that teams dont often score more 2nd time around at Edgbaston so that puts me off backing England
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“well thats been just 46 overs bowled in 2 sessions, 14 overs behind where they should be
edit : at least with it finishing now they dont lose 2 for an innings change
but not going to get close to 90 overs today even with the extra half hour”
“well thats been just 46 overs bowled in 2 sessions, 14 overs behind where they should be
edit : at least with it finishing now they dont lose 2 for an innings change
but not going to get close to 90 overs today even with the extra half hour”
Its a total disgrace. Can you see any other game short changing the public of 10 percent of the play ? I've got no answer to slow play its deliberate and its tactical.
Originally Posted by mb@2day:
“Its a total disgrace. Can you see any other game short changing the public of 10 percent of the play ? I've got no answer to slow play its deliberate and its tactical.”
“Its a total disgrace. Can you see any other game short changing the public of 10 percent of the play ? I've got no answer to slow play its deliberate and its tactical.”
The only way you stop it is if you start handing bans out or penalising the teams responsible by awarding or deducting runs.
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“i just think that balance is wrong and if you look at the history of test cricket and the sides that have had most success i doubt you will find many that went into games with just 4 specialist batsmen”
“i just think that balance is wrong and if you look at the history of test cricket and the sides that have had most success i doubt you will find many that went into games with just 4 specialist batsmen”
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“again i thought that was clear, if someone is good enough to be selected as a batsman and gives you the luxury of being good enough to be more than just a part-time bowler then great. but don't pick someone who isn't good enough to get in the team on batting alone just to be able to say "look at all the bowling options we have now" when in reality if you need more than 4 bowlers with some part-time backup then you probably have a bigger problem”
“again i thought that was clear, if someone is good enough to be selected as a batsman and gives you the luxury of being good enough to be more than just a part-time bowler then great. but don't pick someone who isn't good enough to get in the team on batting alone just to be able to say "look at all the bowling options we have now" when in reality if you need more than 4 bowlers with some part-time backup then you probably have a bigger problem”
Earlier you appeared to be making a general point and not specific to Moeen, thus my general reply. Sorry if I got that wrong, but it wasn't clear to me.
I think Moeen's ability as a batsmen to get in the side is very debatable, although you see it as clear-cut I think. They tried him out as a opener at one point, so I think England saw him as good enough. And personally, I would maintain that from the current crop available, I'd still say he was at least as good as Ballance or Vince at the moment.
But it's your first quote above that I still don't understand, as a general point. I don't understand why anyone would worry about having only 4 specialist batsmen if the all-rounders were good batsmen themselves. I don't see having extra bowling options as spoiling the balance - I see it as a bonus. I don't think anyone complained about balance when Kallis was batting higher up in the order for SA, and so on.
(Just to be 100% clear, I'm not comparing Moeen to Kallis, but making a general point, just as you appear to be doing in that quote.)
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