The pakistani journo on TMS essentially confirming that Amir is several years older than he claims to be, at around 26 or so. I hadn't heard this before.

Broad very slow.
broad looks off colour this tour probably needs a break again, wouldn't surprise me if he get dropped in india for a few test just like in 2012.

doubt he is several year older but probably 18 months older.
Younis khan is another player that isn't what he claims to be, reports say he is about 40 or 41.

They reckoned around 3 years older

There was an interesting comment from Simon Hughes as the analyst on that. He reckoned that Broad's good technique to left-handers had affected his bowling to right-handers, He went into some detail about the wrist position and side-on/front-on action and explained it. As I type this, Warne is talking about his wrist, too.

No thanks


Kallis....Batting average 55.37 Bowling average 32.65.

There's the difference

Cook will slowly creep into defensive mode there's no chance there getting these runs just been a flat test wicket

Kallis batted in the top 4 and was a batsman, Stokes is primarily a bowler who can bat

Also, Stokes is still very early on in his career. Using his career average in comparison to Kallis is pointless right now.

Look at his form with both bat and ball over the last 12 months to get a truer reflection of his current worth.

Whilst we are talking about flat, slow wickets how much do people think that uncovered pitches would affect Test Matches? Would it be a good thing producing more exciting cricket or would it be a step backwards.

Seeing as it was phased out before my watching days I have no idea on the subject.

said on another forum, the people saying declare on 300 are idiots and haven't washed the game in last 5-10 years or actually stupid people or just very biased and idiotic in the case of botham/warne.

why in a flat deck would anyone set 300 for pakistan to chase in 90 overs that would basically take draw out of the game with only pakistan or england winning and on this pitch pakistan scoring runs is more likely than england taking 10 wickets.

it is really that idiotic and stupid thinking that many won big money when pakistan chased a big total against sri lanka in sri lanka.
in the end pakistan won with ease.
because of t20 setting anything around 300-350 is risky business in a day, at the moment England might have just declared at the right time but if pakistan don't lose too many wicket till tea, it could get interesting in the final session.

We are taking the Sir Garfield Sobers attitude to the game where the spirit of cricket - and producing a fourth innings where either side can win - is more important than allowing the game to peeter out to a boring draw - as this one will. Better to lose than be too cautious. Especially as the flat wicket has helped to keep thousands of bums off seats.

You do realise that unlike the T20 game you can bowl down the leg side and bowl difficult bouncers, you have no fielding restrictions. Two different formats of the game. Pakistan are batting around 3 an over - which with 90 overs is around 270 -300. And if they go for their shots more they have more risk of getting out.

Sami Aslam looks a good player, exactly the sort of opener you'd want. Makes you wonder why on earth they persisted with that Masood for so long, who looked out of his depth.

Not a world class allrounder


Yes. It's a like a different game.

But getting 130-140 in 30 overs is more than possible in this pitch and in the current age.

It was only because he was in EastEnders

If Pakistan did bat the 90 overs they will chase the total or lose the game. They were not going to be 20-30 runs short anyway in the end cook didn't declare at 310 so it is a moot point.
Would have been fun though if he did since warne beefy and the rest would sound like idoits.
One minute declare the next why did cook declare.
Would have been shocking declaration like Clarke did in the 2013 ashes

Batting not looking so easy at the moment

No surprise when ever I post here the opposite happens lol

Is it that bad to lose a Test Match? Both teams have played well in parts in this Test and if we were on the losing side it wouldn't be the worst thing.

Losing at Test Match playing poorly is one thing but if Pakistan got the 311 runs then it would be losing a decent Test Match.

One of my bugbears of the modern view of sport is that winning is the only thing. Which is why you get charmless people like Mourinho in the game or times when Broad doesn't walk when he knew he was out.

Game definately on

Big winners today are Warwickshire

Two quick wickets have given us a chance of victory. Good bowling from Finn and Woakes.