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West Indies doing well approaching tea. India 130 for 5. Sky Sports 3.
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Same ream for tomorrow
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India back in control with an unbroken 6th wicket partnership of 190*
318/5 at lunch also The ECB has invited Graeme Swann to work with England's best young spinners. http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/...y/1044459.html |
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India back in control with an unbroken 6th wicket partnership of 190*
318/5 at lunch also The ECB has invited Graeme Swann to work with England's best young spinners. http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/...y/1044459.html |
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India back in control with an unbroken 6th wicket partnership of 190*
318/5 at lunch also The ECB has invited Graeme Swann to work with England's best young spinners. http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/...y/1044459.html |
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So the selectors took pity on James Vince ( and his bad hand ) He gets the pick over Adil Rashid for the Oval test. I hope this doesn't tempt fate and Vince drops more chances in the slips and then struggles with his batting.
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thats a very green looking pitch
hope we dont regret that decision to bat first |
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Some terrific clips of Waquar and Wasim in previous Tests at the Oval
Wonder if Tuffers toe is still hurting....
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So the selectors took pity on James Vince ( and his bad hand ) He gets the pick over Adil Rashid for the Oval test. I hope this doesn't tempt fate and Vince drops more chances in the slips and then struggles with his batting.
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Why change a winning team ? Not only would it change the team dynamic it also upsets the team spirit. As Not Sean said earlier, England are playing well as a team at the moment so why change that ?
I understand the argument (a thread staple!) about not changing a winning team, but I don't personally agree with it. |
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Why change a winning team ? Not only would it change the team dynamic it also upsets the team spirit. As Not Sean said earlier, England are playing well as a team at the moment so why change that ?
Having seen the greener than expected pitch it makes a little more sense. I was anticipating something drier and conducive to spin. Not so this test, Vince and his hand will prop up the batting once more. I wish him well and hope he can escape the frightful forties in this match. Anyway this means Rashid is free to play against my team in the T20 finals ( curses ) |
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Doesn't look out but the soft signal was out
Not the correct outcome imo |
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That looks a bad decision
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The close up on Hales facial reaction on playing the shot suggests he saw it hadn't carried
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So the selectors took pity on James Vince ( and his bad hand ) He gets the pick over Adil Rashid for the Oval test. I hope this doesn't tempt fate and Vince drops more chances in the slips and then struggles with his batting.
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Typical - I had to take a work phone call during that controversy and couldn't hear the commentary. So was the general consensus that Hales was unlucky?
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Because they could be playing even better. As they said on TMS this morning, England do have questions about their batting.
I understand the argument (a thread staple!) about not changing a winning team, but I don't personally agree with it. |
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Typical - I had to take a work phone call during that controversy and couldn't hear the commentary. So was the general consensus that Hales was unlucky?
Without the soft signal it would have been not out |
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And they could equally be playing worse. If TMS are questioning our batting then dropping a batsman for a spinner seems an odd solution.
I would have had a look at Borthwick in this match at the expense of Vince or Ballance, but I've said that before. Being specific, though, this England team is unusual due to it's very long batting line up. IMO Moeen is a proper batsman, so could easily be given more responsibility and bumped up the order to bring in Rashid, who is also better than a tail-ender. In my mind, the phrase 'dropping a batsman to bring in a spinner' doesn't really reflect the wider context. |
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The issue was that the umpires gave a soft signal of out and there was no clear evidence to overturn it due to their being no clear footage
Without the soft signal it would have been not out
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I wonder whether the thinking of not bringing Rashid in has anything to do with Misbah's tactics of attacking the spin bowler and memories of what happened to Simon Kerrigan at the Oval
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TMS are saying the Hales dismissal clip is up on the BBC web site but blowed if I can find it?
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The issue was that the umpires gave a soft signal of out and there was no clear evidence to overturn it due to their being no clear footage
Without the soft signal it would have been not out Yes, very strange. They gave the soft "out" signal because they expect fielders to be honest. An honest fielder would have given the "not sure" signal. It looked pretty obvious from the shot we did see that he'd scooped it up off the ground. I can't believe we've still not seen a blown up version, or that they didn't have any better camera angles. Oh well, nothing short of 500+ will do now :--) |
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