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International Cricket 2016
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davethecue
30-08-2016
Sharjeel repeating what he did against Ireland
ThomasStirk
30-08-2016
This is dreadful bowling from England
ThomasStirk
30-08-2016
Stokes doesn't drop them good old bucket hands
davethecue
30-08-2016
D/L par score after 13 overs is 184...!
Bosox
30-08-2016
Largest margin of victory in an ODI is 275 runs. For games between two 'top countries' it's 258 runs.
Darren Lethem
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Bosox:
“Largest margin of victory in an ODI is 275 runs. For games between two 'top countries' it's 258 runs.”

As Pakistan are ranked outside the top 8 now, do they count as a 'top' country ?
Bosox
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“As Pakistan are ranked outside the top 8 now, do they count as a 'top' country ?”

The highest margins of victory came against Afghanistan and Zimbabwe (actually I missed out a 290 run win against Ireland as well but the point stands) so for these purposes yes. I was going to put test playing nations rather than top countries but then I figured someone would point out Zimbabwe have played test matches in the past.
Bhaveshgor
30-08-2016
Quite crazy with all the white ball pedigree Pakistan got that they haven't even got 3 or 4 decent white ball players at the moment.
only really Sharjeel Khan looks like being an odi player at the moment and even then hard to see him being consistent enough to win games for Pakistan on his own.

Biggest issue with pakistan is that you can never see them scoring 280+ or even chasing 300 odd, they really are the england of 2-3 yrs ago.
JSemple3
30-08-2016
Amir's went to 50 in 22
owen10
30-08-2016
Buttler has dropped another catch
mavreela
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Bosox:
“I figured someone would point out Zimbabwe have played test matches in the past.”

Technically accurate, but calling this month "the past" still seems a bit odd.
owen10
30-08-2016
At last we have won
mimik1uk
30-08-2016
was out most of the day so wasn't able to watch live and just caught up on TiVo, that was pretty insane yet again

when you think that we have the likes of bell-drummond, duckett, vince, bairstow and billings who cant even get into this side as well
Bosox
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by mavreela:
“Technically accurate, but calling this month "the past" still seems a bit odd.”

Sigh, yes ok, I should also have added that the ODI in question was in 2010 before Zimbabwe's return to playing test matches. They hadn't played a test for 5 years at that point so couldn't then be considered a regular test playing nation even to the extent that they can now. But I didn't want to write an essay in my original post which was why I tried to steer clear of the term.
SULLA
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by ThomasStirk:
“He's a far better player then James Vince that's for sure”

But there are other batters better than Vince
mimik1uk
31-08-2016
is the SL v Aus game not being shown anywhere today, i thought eurosport had been showing this series but no sign of it on there

edit : just seen its only being shown online which is no use to me today :-s
mavreela
31-08-2016
The Sri Lanka vs Australia ODI (and the next one) is being shown on Quest.

That is Discovery's FTA channel which they use as an overspill channel for Eurosport. Sadly it is only available in SD though, so the quality is probably better online.

It is channel Freeview 37, Sky 144, Virgin UK 174, Virgin Ireland 154.
mimik1uk
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by mavreela:
“The Sri Lanka vs Australia ODI (and the next one) is being shown on Quest.

That is Discovery's FTA channel which they use as an overspill channel for Eurosport. Sadly it is only available in SD though, so the quality is probably better online.

It is channel Freeview 37, Sky 144, Virgin UK 174, Virgin Ireland 154.”

thanks

i had only looked at the sports channels for it
howard h
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by mavreela:
“The Sri Lanka vs Australia ODI (and the next one) is being shown on Quest.

That is Discovery's FTA channel which they use as an overspill channel for Eurosport. Sadly it is only available in SD though, so the quality is probably better online.

It is channel Freeview 37, Sky 144, Virgin UK 174, Virgin Ireland 154.”

Thanks!

There are so many channels and so many niche channels, it's amazing anyone can find what they want when something's on worth watching!

Maybe on answer is - and TBH I don't read them so they may already do this - if listings mags have a "sports" section so under "Cricket" it will list all Sky's games, Eurosports etc and include this series and state "Quest" underneath.

The Mail's suppliment does this - dunno if it included this series though.
ihatemarmite
31-08-2016
there are a few live sport on UK TV apps where you can select which sport and it will supply channel details but it doesn't give Quest's channel no.
Thanks Mavreela, not heard of Quest before today.
Chris1964
31-08-2016
Interesting view from Angus Fraser:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37235357

I think there is a point regarding the ongoing appeal of bowling. One Day Cricket is more and more becoming crowds wanting to see big sixes.

Take nothing away from England though, it was an astonishing performance.
Bhaveshgor
01-09-2016
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Interesting view from Angus Fraser:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37235357

I think there is a point regarding the ongoing appeal of bowling. One Day Cricket is more and more becoming crowds wanting to see big sixes.

Take nothing away from England though, it was an astonishing performance.”

Warner complaining in Sri lanka because 250-270 is a winning total in sri lanka
http://www.espncricinfo.com/sri-lank...y/1052781.html
Quote:
“"It's hard to gain momentum when the wickets prepared are like this," Warner said. "I speak from an Australian cricketer's point of view - we're about growing the game. When it comes to one-day cricket and Twenty20 cricket you like to see more of a contest where you're scoring over 300 runs and you're chasing down totals. Sitting back last night and watching England score 400, then coming out here, busting our backsides for both teams scramble to 200 - it's probably not ideal for people coming out here to watch that kind of cricket.”

some of the complaints from Aussie players this tour been quite weird.
briggsy1
01-09-2016
Re. the upcoming Bangladesh Tour: One overseas tour too many for England this winter? Who wants it - the players? the fans? No. I suspect only Sky tv predominately. It's only going ahead because Sky are dangling pound signs like carrots in front of the noses of the ECB/ICC and they're too greedy to refuse the offer.
Saturation fixture lists are not a problem unique to cricket of course. It's happening in football, tennis, rugby.. in fact right across the board.
Bhaveshgor
01-09-2016
for one Bangladesh fans and players want it.
Although you are right in that it is only getting played because the cost of cancelling the tour will be big and ECB don't really want to pay compensation if they cancel the series.
But not predominately because of Sky.
Anyway having 2 tours a winter is quite common and been the norm for years.
mavreela
01-09-2016
And yet the best match at last year's World Cup by far was New Zealand 152/9 defeating Australia's 151.

Originally Posted by briggsy1:
“Re. the upcoming Bangladesh Tour: One overseas tour too many for England this winter? Who wants it - the players? the fans?”

How is this tour specifically one too many when they are playing the same number of tours and amount of cricket as they normally do in winter? Two tours, seven tests. Same procedure as every year.

Sure you can argue the schedule is too much, but that would then apply just as much to going to India.

But if you look at the international calendar England are not any different to any other nation. Only the West Indies and Zimbabwe have one tour over winter. But the former has the heaviest spring schedule hosting England ODIs, a full Pakistan tour, then an white ball series in England all ahead of the Champions Trophy.

And given England have not been to Bangladesh since 2010 it is long overdue. They gained test status in 2000 and yet this will be only England's third tour there, and only the fifth between the two.

Teams like Bangladesh, who are much improved since England last went there, will only get better by playing different teams including ones better then them.

You say that the only reason they are playing Bangladesh is greed. But greed it the only reason they keep playing big lucrative tours of Australia and India whilst ignoring the likes of Bangladesh and even New Zealand.

You cannot keep playing the same few teams then complain about people getting bored with test cricket when there are others out there being ignored. The attitude we are much better than them and they will not earn enough money is awful.

Besides which, how can Sky tell the ECB what to do when it is an overseas tour, so they pay the hosting board for the rights. And if they were just going to throw money at a board to host England they would pick a country more attractive to U.K. audiences than Bangladesh.

It is a shame about the security situation as otherwise, as a fan, I am looking forward to that tour.
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