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International Cricket 2016
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jake1981
04-09-2016
Thought that was out with the review

Didn't look like it was outside leg and going over
seansnotmyname@
04-09-2016
Morgan definitely the weak-link in our line-up, frustrating with the depth we've got, but you just can't see us dropping him when we're winning games.
Darren Lethem
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Morgan definitely the weak-link in our line-up, frustrating with the depth we've got, but you just can't see us dropping him when we're winning games.”

He's a very good captain though and if he's dropped do we have a natural successor to take over ?
jake1981
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Morgan definitely the weak-link in our line-up, frustrating with the depth we've got, but you just can't see us dropping him when we're winning games.”

If he chooses not to tour Bangladesh, he may not get back in

Joe Root tge most likely replacement maybe ?
seansnotmyname@
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“He's a very good captain though and if he's dropped do we have a natural successor to take over ?”

Not really, and I'm not sure he should be dropped, did play brilliantly against Oz last year, just musing really.

Originally Posted by jake1981:
“If he chooses not to tour Bangladesh, he may not get back in

Joe Root tge most likely replacement maybe ?”

Yes that could be interesting Banglas spectacularly good at home in ODI's though, so maybe a good one to miss. Root's job if he wants it I'd have thought, no obvious candidates, players who captain their county for instance.
Callum Collum
04-09-2016
Stokes gone for 75. Very good innings but a big blow struck by Pakistan.
ThomasStirk
04-09-2016
We have enough anyway Pakistan aren't getting anywhere near 280
jake1981
04-09-2016
We're missing our lower midde order of Moeen , Plunkett and Rashid

Only 28 off the last 7 overs

283/8 with 2 to go
seansnotmyname@
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by jake1981:
“We're missing our lower midde order of Moeen , Plunkett and Rashid

Only 28 off the last 7 overs

283/8 with 2 to go”

Indeed, Willey just doesn't seem to be able to recreate his county heroics for England with the bat. Could be a gettable total with Dawson our main spinner.
Mark F
04-09-2016
Missing the spin threat a bit?
seansnotmyname@
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Missing the spin threat a bit?”

Indeed, Dawson is pretty much killing off his England chances here, poor innings terrible bowling, Ansari and Parry much better left-arm options IMHO.
makeba72
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Indeed, Dawson is pretty much killing off his England chances here, poor innings terrible bowling, Ansari and Parry much better left-arm options IMHO.”

He's come back with 2 wickets, but do they compensate for the number of runs he's gone for...?
seansnotmyname@
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“He's come back with 2 wickets, but do they compensate for the number of runs he's gone for...?”

No not really particularly as he batted awfully, shouldn't judge on 1 match, but he's never looked an England player to me.
JSemple3
04-09-2016
No ODI whitewash
tasker
04-09-2016
Typical England, they have never had the "go for the throat" attitude needed.

Kick them when they are down, don't settle for 4-1 and change the team regardless of wanting to try new players.

The Aussies, Kiwis and pretty much everybody else wouldn't, why do we always lay back and let them win a match.

We need to be more cut-throat.
Darren Lethem
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by tasker:
“Typical England, they have never had the "go for the throat" attitude needed.

Kick them when they are down, don't settle for 4-1 and change the team regardless of wanting to try new players.

The Aussies, Kiwis and pretty much everybody else wouldn't, why do we always lay back and let them win a match.

We need to be more cut-throat.”

The team wasn't picked with the intention of losing. Plus Wood and Willey have played in the games England won, only Dawson was a new cap and I see no harm at all in seeing how a new spinner fares. No harm at all
SULLA
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by dtcdtcdtc:
“Spreads calling England runs at 290 - 300 with England to win by 37

Seems about right I think”

Got the first bit right anyway

Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Morgan definitely the weak-link in our line-up, frustrating with the depth we've got, but you just can't see us dropping him when we're winning games.”

Yes. The weak link

Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“He's a very good captain though and if he's dropped do we have a natural successor to take over ?”

You cannot be serious. He did not make maximum use of his best bowlers.
seansnotmyname@
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“The team wasn't picked with the intention of losing. Plus Wood and Willey have played in the games England won, only Dawson was a new cap and I see no harm at all in seeing how a new spinner fares. No harm at all”

Think they should have picked one of Moeen and Rashid, along with LD on a pitch that does spin, putting in Dawson as the lone spinner just wasn't fair on him IMHO. Can't say I'm hugely bothered though.
dtcdtcdtc
04-09-2016
It shows how far we have come and our expectations have risen when we are disappointed not to win 5-0

We are certainly in with a shout of being the best ODI team at the moment

Dont think Dawson showed enough to make the winter tour party

I agree with what's already been said that he doesn't come across as an International player
Ansari has probably had a good day by not playing !
makeba72
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“...only Dawson was a new cap and I see no harm at all in seeing how a new spinner fares. No harm at all”

I agree with that, although I think they should have played Rashid as well. They didn't need all those seamers now that Stokes can bowl his full ten.
Bhaveshgor
04-09-2016
[quote=dtcdtcdtc;83838970]It shows how far we have come and our expectations have risen when we are disappointed not to win 5-0

We are certainly in with a shout of being the best ODI team at the moment

Dont think Dawson showed enough to make the winter tour party

I agree with what's already been said that he doesn't come across as an International player
Ansari has probably had a good day by not playing ![
/QUOTE]

Not really since the management have doubts on his fitness since he is injured again I believe.

the somerset spinner is well fancied as well but stupidly they don't think he offers much with the bat to be the 3rd spinner, they really should take the best spinner available to the winter.
Dawson is not going to win games in Asia with his bowling.
really not sure what the commentators were watching if they though he bowled good or ok.
He was bowling far too short and needs to be way fuller in subcontinent to trouble the batsman or to even make use of the spinning conditions.
makeba72
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“the somerset spinner is well fancied as well but stupidly they don't think he offers much with the bat to be the 3rd spinner, they really should take the best spinner available to the winter.”

It's long been a bugbear of mine that being the best at one's primary skill is not necessarily enough to get you into an International side. I know I've said it before, so apologies, but I think it's a real shame and in the long term, not good for the game overall.

I'd be happier if the set-up brought in people and then trained them up to be a better all-rounder, but demanding batting over everything right from the start isn't the right approach IMO. To repeat myself again, surely it must be easier to teach a good WK to bat than teach a batsmen to keep wicket? And so on...
Bhaveshgor
04-09-2016
TBH it is crazy to expect dawson to take wickets in india or Bangladesh when he not even a first choice option for his county only taken 10 wickets at 45 and most of those wickets are in recent weeks where all the wicket have been turning and spinners have taken load of wickets apparently ECB have told hampshire to play Dawson for the next 2 rounds so they can have a look at dawson ahead of the winter and is in pole position for a spot after they have major doubt on Ansari fitness.

Joe leach number are actually quite impressive and been good all summer.
Picking Dawson is such a waste since he never going to challenge Moeen or Rashid for a spot and isn't much of a spinner to even have a slim chance of actually being the spinner England been looking for whereas the chance is very high that one point maybe Chennai or Mumbai where England play 3 spinner or rest or drop one of the spinner if the series is gone and the 3rd spinner actually get a game on conditions which should suit him.
pick the best spinner considering there is a massive chance he will get a game at some point in conditions that will make him the most dangerous or help and top of that he will probably be bowling 100 overs a day in the nets and actually getting the overs that the spinner needs to actually improve that he wouldn't actually get in England.

They don't even need Dawson batting considering the two spinners can bat and 2 of the pace men can bat so they could even play 3 spinners and 2 men and still have a long batting line up.
Bhaveshgor
04-09-2016
Sorry Dawson taking 12 at 48 with 8 of them coming in the last 2 games where loads of spinners have been taken wickets in the country.
Darren Lethem
04-09-2016
Reading this a neutral would think Liam Dawson scored 1 from 200 balls and went for 0 for 150. Cut the lad some slack. It was his first international. He scored 10 from 13 and his bowling was 2 for 70. Ok, he didn't cover himself in glory but there was no harm in trying him out. Should anything happen to Moeen or Adil we need another spinner. Crikey many on here call hell out of Moeen Ali so, as I say, no harm done in giving him a try out. Personally I wouldn't have had him in the squad but he was so justifiable he was tried out. He isn't a match winner but he didn't cost us the game either.
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