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International Cricket 2016
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mimik1uk
12-10-2016
another "pretty" 30odd from vince

if louis walsh was a cricket commentator he would be saying "you're like a little ian bell"
Mark F
12-10-2016
Billings and Duckett played very well.

Hopefully the likes of Stokes and Buttler can finish it off..
Mark F
12-10-2016
Nice way for Woakes to win the series with a 6!


Very good batting display generally with Billings and Duckett playing their part setting up the run chase and Woakes/Stokes finishing the job.
makeba72
12-10-2016
Sadly I missed most of England's batting on TV due to work commitments, but it looks as if England put in a very good performance.

I thought Rashid bowled very well, although it was his bad balls that took more wickets for him! Moeen took a bit too long to work out that his line should be more outside off-stump and although he was quite economical, he was mostly milked quite easily I think. Jake Ball continues to impress and I hope that he has a real future with England.
mb@2day
12-10-2016
Well done England. I'm very pleased they put this side away in what was predicted to be an impossible run chase.

I'll watch it later to hear the total silence of the crowd the only noise being a cricket ball bouncing into the stands ......
SULLA
12-10-2016
I am baffled as to why Ali bats at 7. His average is modest and his strike rate is poor.

Rashid, who was down at 10, has a better average and a better strike rate
SULLA
12-10-2016
Originally Posted by mb@2day:
“Well done England. I'm very pleased they put this side away in what was predicted to be an impossible run chase.

I'll watch it later to hear the total silence of the crowd the only noise being a cricket ball bouncing into the stands ...... ”

They have got used to winning at home. We did very well
Mark F
12-10-2016
Was out yesterday and noticed the local pub had coverage of an ODI at Lords from about 2005 against the Aussies where we managed to get a last ball tie chasing 196.

The players and fans celebrated like mad - how times changed - we'd be disappointed now not to win.

Edit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4644957.stm
jake1981
12-10-2016
It certainly helps to have a Captain that keeps winning the toss

3-0 to Jos
davethecue
12-10-2016
David Warner trying single-handedly to save Australia from a 5-0 whitewash

338 to win, Aus are 285/8 in the 46th with Warner on 172*
Mark F
12-10-2016
Just failed by 30 runs..

Aussies whitewashed 5-0 by South Africa - surely hasn't happened too often!
mimik1uk
13-10-2016
that was a much better win today for england than it appears imo considering we were missing what is arguably our first choice top 3
Mark F
13-10-2016
Day/Night test in the UAE.

Good batting practise for the Pakistan openers atm.

140/0
Mark F
14-10-2016
Wasn't aware there was an inquest going on regarding the tragic death of Phil Hughes but it seems to be going sour which is rather sad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-37651907

I doubt this was the way they wanted the inquest to go...
dtcdtcdtc
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Wasn't aware there was an inquest going on regarding the tragic death of Phil Hughes but it seems to be going sour which is rather sad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-37651907

I doubt this was the way they wanted the inquest to go...”


Yeah, I heard on the radio that his family got up and walked out of the inquest

Not good
Mark F
14-10-2016
I thought it would just be an inquest into what happened and what can be done to improve safety - not one for mud slinging.

Sledging takes place all the time of course but no-one intends to hurt anyone.
Darren Lethem
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Day/Night test in the UAE.

Good batting practise for the Pakistan openers atm.

140/0”

On Sky Channel 789 ( Zing TV ) too

Pakistan 454/2 - Azhar Ali on 231 not out
alfamale
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“I thought it would just be an inquest into what happened and what can be done to improve safety - not one for mud slinging.

Sledging takes place all the time of course but no-one intends to hurt anyone.”

I don't know much about australian inquiries but i strongly get the impression the basis of the sledging topic was the coroner purely wanted all the full facts of events leading up to Hughes' tragic death and is quite the norm for any coroner looking into any death. The statement by coroners counsel after hearing such evidence said that sledging directed at Phillip Hughes and his batting partner Tom Cooper "in no way exacerbated the incident".
http://www.espncricinfo.com/australi...y/1061359.html

Unfortunately it only seems to have turned into mud slinging because a few aussie cricketers playing that day seemingly lied to the inquiry. That's really poor of them if this is the case. I've no idea why either, everyone knows sledging is just part of the game and doesnt mean anything, likewise with short pitched bowling.
Bhaveshgor
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by alfamale:
“I don't know much about australian inquiries but i strongly get the impression the basis of the sledging topic was the coroner purely wanted all the full facts of events leading up to Hughes' tragic death and is quite the norm for any coroner looking into any death. The statement by coroners counsel after hearing such evidence said that sledging directed at Phillip Hughes and his batting partner Tom Cooper "in no way exacerbated the incident".
http://www.espncricinfo.com/australi...y/1061359.html

Unfortunately it only seems to have turned into mud slinging because a few aussie cricketers playing that day seemingly lied to the inquiry. That's really poor of them if this is the case. I've no idea why either, everyone knows sledging is just part of the game and doesnt mean anything, likewise with short pitched bowling.”

The impression I got was that the reason the cricketers changed their statements or gave mixed statements on the sledging was the fact the hughes family were trying to pin the blame on someone.

Maybe Bollinger did say something he shouldn't have but that doesn't excuse the hughes family on putting pressure on him and others that heard the sledges.

Huge tragedy but not sure I liked the way the Hughes family behaved in the past 3-4 days.
At least Abbot wasn't called up in the inquest.

Also not sure what the point of the inquest was since Cricket Australia already had an inquest and ready made plans to make the helmets safer and change rules.

Pretty much what was said in this inquest was that bollinger denied saying the sledge, Tom cooper denied saying he heard bollinger sledge and if bowling bouncer are illegal.

the only thing from the inquest that actually looked at stopping an incident of this happening again was the neck guard.
gomezz
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Also not sure what the point of the inquest was since Cricket Australia already had an inquest”

The latter has no standing in law, it is the legal duty of the coroner to investigate any untoward death. A more pertinent question is should not Cricket Australia have held off holding its own enquiry until the coroner had reported his findings?
Bhaveshgor
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“The latter has no standing in law, it is the legal duty of the coroner to investigate any untoward death. A more pertinent question is should not Cricket Australia have held off holding its own enquiry until the coroner had reported his findings?”

Well for one Cricket Australia had to have one since they had to determine if the current helmet are safe and if not what they can do to make the helmet safer.

Maybe it is the legal duty of the coroner to investigate why or how Hughes died, but not sure I like the way the inquest was handled.
gomezz
14-10-2016
As the evidence presented to the coroner was that the new design helmets would *not* have helped in Hughes' case then they seem to have wasted their time by not waiting.
Bhaveshgor
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“As the evidence presented to the coroner was that the new design helmets would *not* have helped in Hughes' case then they seem to have wasted their time by not waiting.”

TBH not sure any realistic helmet would help in Hughes case actually, but that doesn't make what CA did a waste of time considering the old helmet had a major flaw that had to be fixed.

Also don't think the coroner even gave any recommendation on a new helmet barring the neck guard which they didn't even check to see if it would work or could be implemented on cricket helmets.
or if they could do it, that it actually does the job, since I believe the cricket helmets got to the stage that any new protection actually doesn't make a difference but starts reducing visibility/movement for the batsman which could actually make them more dangerous.

Might be wrong but remember reading that when CA tested neck guard they found it doesn't reduce the risk and batsman found it harder to move out of the ball ways so are more likely to be hit so in a way increase the chance of the ball hitting the area.

Actually reading cricinfo it seems like the family gave the recommendation not the coroner.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/australi...y/1061614.html
all the coroner said was to clarify the bouncer law.
dee123
15-10-2016
How very sad that the inquest is an utter mess.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/201...ned-old-wounds
Callum Collum
15-10-2016
England have been playing a warm-up. Another good score for Duckett (59, retired). Unfortunately not so much for Hameed (16). I guess they'll try and get a second innings in.

https://www.ecb.co.uk/matches/5214
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