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Old 20-10-2016, 06:11
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yeah "umpires call" is not as generous now
Really I would be reviewing every LBW in subcontinent most likely all would be hitting the stumps with the new system.
the only issue will be the line, but if the line looks straight then it will be out.
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:12
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root looks to be playing with the mindset that sooner or later he is gonna get one with his name on it so he may as well try to be positive and score as many as he can before that happens
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:15
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root looks to be playing with the mindset that sooner or later he is gonna get one with his name on it so he may as well try to be positive and score as many as he can before that happens
TBH blocking the pace men will be daft considering he bowled 2 or 3 crap balls as well.
not really sure why the guy bowling, cue him taking a wicket soon.
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:16
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Mehedi Hasan looks a good find for Bangla

Off to work so no more wickets from me
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:22
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TBH did say this tour will be tough, really not sure what Vaughan was seeing.
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:39
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lol they wasted one of their reviews on an umpire call after missing a plumb lbw earlier.
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:42
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TBH did say this tour will be tough, really not sure what Vaughan was seeing.
tour was always going to be tough with a few inexperienced players and a fairly average spin attack
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:44
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tour was always going to be tough with a few inexperienced players and a fairly average spin attack
yeah was quite odd for Vaughan to say few days ago, that england should win easily 2-0 and dominate Bangladesh in the test.
not really sure how he saw that.

England might win 2-0, but doubt they will win every session or day or basically thrash the crap out of bangladesh.

like you say england got some inexperienced players and average spin attack plus away from home so it was always going to be harder to win because of it.
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:47
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Difference between Root and Ali here is stark.
Root picking length quicker although his sweep looks very ugly.
Ali struggling with the spin, not sure he actually scored a proper run yet against the spinners.
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:51
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Difference between Root and Ali here is stark.
Root picking length quicker although his sweep looks very ugly.
Ali struggling with the spin, not sure he actually scored a proper run yet against the spinners.
root looks like he is playing on a different pitch from everyone else so far

edit : and just as i type that moeen is out , but reviewing it
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:54
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that looks like its hitting him outside the line

edit : and a slight inside edge, so he is saved
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:55
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Think that even.
not sure that conclusive evidence to overturn the decision.
although might not be relevant if the hawkeye says missing although that unlikely.
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Old 20-10-2016, 06:58
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Think that even.
not sure that conclusive evidence to overturn the decision.
although might not be relevant if the hawkeye says missing although that unlikely.
we could see both middle and leg stump behind him so i think it was hitting outside the line of off

might have gone on to hit the stumps but impact was outside the line i think
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:00
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we could see both middle and leg stump behind him so i think it was hitting outside the line of off
Too tired, so didn't see the replay so just assumed the umpire make a decent judgement
plus didn't see that mentioned in twitter.
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:18
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...y/1062231.html

good article, kind of true as well considering these days even the pace men from india, sri lanka, ban generally bowl quick.
would say on average most would bowl mid 80s.

"The true evolution of fast bowling isn't the top speeds. Perhaps Thommo was the quickest, or maybe the fastest was from the Tait, Brett Lee and Akhtar era. But the true test of how much quicker bowling has become is how many people these days can bowl around 90mph."
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:24
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sorry mimik1uk that was pretty clear that the ball hit the pad first in the ballance appeal.
for one the bat is behind the pad when the ball struck the pad.
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:27
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sorry mimik1uk that was pretty clear that the ball hit the pad first in the ballance appeal.
for one the bat is behind the pad when the ball struck the pad.
the ball didn't hit the pad full on tho, so where the bat was in relation to the pad isn't the issue, imo the ball may have glanced the pad on its way to the bat but any contact was minimal and i still dont think it was conclusive based on the footage we saw

i maybe have a different view of what conclusive evidence the onfield decision was wrong is tho, i usually tend to favour the onfield decision unless its really obvious
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:30
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the ball didn't hit the pad full on tho, so where the bat was in relation to the pad isn't the issue, imo the ball may have glanced the pad on its way to the bat but any contact was minimal and i still dont think it was conclusive based on the footage we saw

i maybe have a different view of what conclusive evidence the onfield decision was wrong is tho, i usually tend to favour the onfield decision unless its really obvious
might be wrong but doesn't any contact with the pad or body before touching the bat count towards an LBW.
doesn't have to be full on, just has to hit it, I think.

Edit looking at it on the net, it seems if the ball hit the pad first which looks very likely in this case, then it become irrelevant that he hit the ball with the bat.
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:38
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might be wrong but doesn't any contact with the pad or body before touching the bat count towards an LBW.
doesn't have to be full on, just has to hit it, I think.
i didn't say it didn't just need to be a glance did i ?

you had implied that because the bat was behind the pad it had to have hit the pad first, but the ball went past on the edge of the pad and any contact there may have been before it got to the bat was only a glance

so i said if there was any contact with the pad it was minimal and therefore not conclusive imo
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:45
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i didn't say it didn't just need to be a glance did i ?

you had implied that because the bat was behind the pad it had to have hit the pad first, but the ball went past on the edge of the pad and any contact there may have been before it got to the bat was only a glance

so i said if there was any contact with the pad it was minimal and therefore not conclusive imo
guessing we disagree with the evidence, pretty sure I saw enough evidence to suggest that the ball did hit the pad first.
in one of the images they had the ball hit the pad and from side on the bat was behind the pad.
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:47
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I hope Moeen's bought a lottery ticket for the weekend

3rd successful review to go with the one that wasn't reviewed when he would have been out
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:47
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pretty surprised Ali batting still, he looks out of his depth so far.
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:51
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root gone, big trouble now

bit of an unlucky one again, as the keeper was never gonna get that but it popped up nicely to slip
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:53
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root gone, big trouble now

bit of an unlucky one again, as the keeper was never gonna get that but it popped up nicely to slip
Reckon root would have survived longer, if Ali wasn't such a nervous wreck at the other end.
really only 2 batsman in the team are capable of scoring runs or surviving in these conditions.
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Old 20-10-2016, 07:54
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pretty surprised Ali batting still, he looks out of his depth so far.
its a bit of a worry when i assume they promoted him up the order as they thought he was a better player of spin
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