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Well this has not been good, was hoping they'd learn something from the first innings yet they seem to have come out with the mindless modern litany of "intent", gawd I really am becoming a grumpy old man.....
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Game back in the melting pot
On a wider point, I think England have got their starting X1 wrong Wonder if they'll change it for the 2nd game For me, Hameed, Buttler and Anzari in for Duckett , Ballance and Broad Not sure whether the selectors would agree with me though Think we certainly need more right handers with all the rough being generated |
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Game back in the melting pot
On a wider point, I think England have got their starting X1 wrong Wonder if they'll change it for the 2nd game For me, Hameed, Buttler and Anzari in for Duckett , Ballance and Broad Not sure whether the selectors would agree with me though Think we certainly need more right handers with all the rough being generated Agree re the right handers, but I think it may depend on the result of the match as to what changes are made |
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Wow never expected bangladesh to collapse like this, thought the best england could get was parity.
although reckon 250 will be a winning total with 200 defendable, but long way to go. |
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Good piece on Colin Milburn on TMS at the moment
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Game back in the melting pot
On a wider point, I think England have got their starting X1 wrong Wonder if they'll change it for the 2nd game For me, Hameed, Buttler and Anzari in for Duckett , Ballance and Broad Not sure whether the selectors would agree with me though Think we certainly need more right handers with all the rough being generated |
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Agree re the right handers, but I think it may depend on the result of the match as to what changes are made
think the English management recognise that having 5 of the top 6 lefties are not a good idea, especially with bangladesh having a good offie now. I be surprised if balance plays again this winter. |
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What does Ballance have over the selectors? He must possess a sex tape or something because I can't see anything that suggests why he is in the team
Hope he can prove us wrong this afternoon but my confidence not high |
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What does Ballance have over the selectors? He must possess a sex tape or something because I can't see anything that suggests why he is in the team
I thought he must have showed something to the selectors that he was back to his best' but he has yet to show it to me |
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Game back in the melting pot
On a wider point, I think England have got their starting X1 wrong Wonder if they'll change it for the 2nd game For me, Hameed, Buttler and Anzari in for Duckett , Ballance and Broad Not sure whether the selectors would agree with me though Think we certainly need more right handers with all the rough being generated But as dtc says, they will see what the result is before deciding on changes |
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I have always defended Ballance but i am finding it increasingly more difficult to do now. It's a bit like the Jack Wilshere scenario at Euro 2016, he has been picked on reputation rather than form
I hope, like many others, i am coming back on later saying "glad to be proved wrong" |
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Duckett had to be given a try, I think it was always an either/or with him and Hameed but he did impress in the warm ups. Ballance is in for balance ( if you will pardon the pun ) and they would never dream of dropping Broad, he is England's front line seamer there. Leader of the pace attack.
But as dtc says, they will see what the result is before deciding on changes |
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Duckett had to be given a try, I think it was always an either/or with him and Hameed but he did impress in the warm ups. Ballance is in for balance ( if you will pardon the pun ) and they would never dream of dropping Broad, he is England's front line seamer there. Leader of the pace attack.
But as dtc says, they will see what the result is before deciding on changes Maybe Hameed in to open and Duckett dropping back to 4 in place of Ballance He doesn't look like an opening batsman in these conditions for sure |
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All good points, but I can't see the need for Broad when we have Stokes and Woakes even if he is a senior player. I'd rather keep the miles off the clock in that heat for games where he will be important
Maybe Hameed in to open and Duckett dropping back to 4 in place of Ballance He doesn't look like an opening batsman in these conditions for sure |
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You must know the law of DS, Broad is only ever one match away from someone calling for his head.
the original plan was for anderson to miss one game and broad one game this winter both in bangladesh. with Stokes bowling well today and yesterday, makes it easier to rest broad for the 2nd test although this can only happen if England winning the series 1-0. |
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I know he called broad to get dropped or not picked but reckon if england win this game, broad might get rested for the 2nd game.
the original plan was for anderson to miss one game and broad one game this winter both in bangladesh. with Stokes bowling well today and yesterday, makes it easier to rest broad for the 2nd test although this can only happen if England winning the series 1-0. This pitch is surprising me a lot, I really don't think it's a typical S-C one at all, it has a reasonable amount of pace to it, not huge, but certainly enough to make the spin much more dangerous a lot of balls fizzing off the turf. |
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Maybe Hameed in to open and Duckett dropping back to 4 in place of Ballance |
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the rumours a couple of days before the game suggested that was going to be the side, i assume they decided they didn't want to have 2 debutants in the top 4
I think England have been taken by surprise by Mehedi so a re-think is likely Hope all this conjecture is worthless with Ballance scoring a game winning innings though |
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TBH in the past few years the pitches in india, sri lanka and now Bangladesh the decks are getting quicker which makes the spin more dangerous.
this was surprising because bangladesh never produced a deck this quick before. looks more of an indian pitch than what you get in bangladesh considering the monsoon, being close to the sea/ very close to the sea level means bangladesh decks are often more sticky than dry, the spin generally skids more than turning. very very dry pitch for a stadium that was under heavy monsoon couple of weeks ago with one warm up game cancelled because the outfield was so wet and unsafe for the fast bowlers. Wasn't that surprised about the deck considering at the moment these types of wickets get a far bigger tv ratings in the country. if the bowlers don't get wickets or don't look like getting a wicket people tune out in huge numbers. |
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ballance has just never looked comfortable against spin imo
his "stock" shot is a prod into the on-side, so you just need a man in saving the single at midwicket and he cant get off strike, something bangladesh failed to do there and that shot is being played against the spin to an offie, which is always dangerous |
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This is going to be tough for Ballance, he needs runs, but this is obviously a low scoring pitch. How can you fairly judge him?
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This is going to be tough for Ballance, he needs runs, but this is obviously a low scoring pitch. How can you fairly judge him?
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This is going to be tough for Ballance, he needs runs, but this is obviously a low scoring pitch. How can you fairly judge him?
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Good knowledge from Moeen about the helmet rule
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Good knowledge from Moeen about the helmet rule
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