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Old 30-10-2016, 13:02
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I'm obviously biased, but I'd play both Hameed And Jos

Most of us on here posted that the line ups chosen for this series were wrong

Hopefully , they'll play a proper opener such as Hameed with Cook

Duckett did ok today, but I cant see him doing that to Ashwin et al
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Old 30-10-2016, 13:09
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What is the lowest total that India will bowl us out for on this tour

I'm going for 112 all out. To be honest I doubt we'll ever make more than 250. Going to be a long few months listening to lost of arrogant Indian fans claiming that they're the greatest team in the world
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Old 30-10-2016, 13:10
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My team for India. Cook, Hameed, Root, Duckett, Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler, Ali, Woakes, Ansari, Broad

This is a team based on the players available. Ballance should be nowhere near the team for a while, until he sorts his technique and form out. England also need to find a front line spinner who, as well as taking wickets, can also contain to a large extent. It was amazing he was even brought back at the stage he was.

Duckett's got something about him, and seems a natural fit to replace Ballance at 4, with Hameed coming in as opener (to be honest, the way they should have started against Bangladesh).

As for Buttler, tell him to go and play his natural game, give him the freedom. Before, he got himself into knots trying to bed down, and reigned in his attacking instincts. That's not him, go out there, play yourself in and then whack it.
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Old 30-10-2016, 13:12
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Overall I think it's been a really ennoyable series. The pitches favoured spin but Tamim, Kayes, Cook, Woakes etc showed that good scores were possible. The result was in the air until near the end of both tests and 1-1 was a fair result. Congratulations to Bangladesh for the win today and for the England players who toured there. The less said about the batting collapses the better. It all passed without any trouble too which will be a reilef to the security team and everyone involved. I hope Bangladesh get to play more matches and that Fiz recovers to add to the strength of the team.
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Old 30-10-2016, 13:16
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My team for India. Cook, Hameed, Root, Duckett, Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler, Ali, Woakes, Ansari, Broad


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I think that side is the way to go as well

Anyone know how Joe Root's back is and whether it will stand bowling 6-8 overs a day ?

That would help balance the team out as well
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Old 30-10-2016, 13:30
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never really expected to see us lose again bangladesh but was always worried about how poor we are playing spin and that our own spinners are not really good enough to make the most of these conditions

we've got individuals who are capable of playing a big innings that could maybe paper over the cracks in india but if they prepare pitches like we have seen in bangladesh we're almost as well not turning up as they are significantly stronger with bat and ball than bangldesh are
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Old 30-10-2016, 13:36
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Just noticed that Upal Tharanga has scored his 2nd Test hundred. His first came in 2006

Can't be many with a gap as big as that with their first 2 tons
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Old 30-10-2016, 13:55
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The pitches in India won't do as much, although if they've been watching that this morning then they might well try and liven them up a bit.
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Old 30-10-2016, 14:20
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I'd like to listen the the last hour of TMS again. Is that possible via radio player?
It is using BBC iPlayer Radio app or the browser version.
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Old 30-10-2016, 14:26
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Stokes has been fined 15% of his match fee for continuing to verbally abuse the batsmen after being warned not to

He's also got 1 'de-merit' point awarded to him as well

Fairly lucky I would think as I thought he would get a heavier penalty than that
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Old 30-10-2016, 14:28
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At this rate they will stop him taking his part as a delicate flower in the Christmas panto too!
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Old 30-10-2016, 14:29
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My team for India. Cook, Hameed, Root, Duckett, Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler, Ali, Woakes, Ansari, Broad

This is a team based on the players available. Ballance should be nowhere near the team for a while, until he sorts his technique and form out. England also need to find a front line spinner who, as well as taking wickets, can also contain to a large extent. It was amazing he was even brought back at the stage he was.

Duckett's got something about him, and seems a natural fit to replace Ballance at 4, with Hameed coming in as opener (to be honest, the way they should have started against Bangladesh).

As for Buttler, tell him to go and play his natural game, give him the freedom. Before, he got himself into knots trying to bed down, and reigned in his attacking instincts. That's not him, go out there, play yourself in and then whack it.
I would rather Rashid than Ansari but is two spinners enough ?
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Old 30-10-2016, 15:00
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It is using BBC iPlayer Radio app or the browser version.
Yes thanks, found it. It's been quite a session!
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Old 30-10-2016, 15:03
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What is the lowest total that India will bowl us out for on this tour

I'm going for 112 all out. To be honest I doubt we'll ever make more than 250. Going to be a long few months listening to lost of arrogant Indian fans claiming that they're the greatest team in the world
I thought that in 1980-something, and then Gatting and Fowler got 200+ a piece!
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Old 30-10-2016, 15:35
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I would rather Rashid than Ansari but is two spinners enough ?
I'd say three spinners aren't enough, not with the quality England have. Its fine having three spinners if they're effective, but England's aren't, are milked for runs too easily, and I can see the likes of Kohli, Rahane etc making hay with them. So, my thinking is what alternative gives England the best chance of being effective.

I go with Ansari rather than Rashid because I'm not thinking that Rashid is showing enough to really nail down his place, or show he can be threatening, so I'd give Ansari a go. Saying that, its close.
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Old 30-10-2016, 16:43
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The pitches in India won't do as much, although if they've been watching that this morning then they might well try and liven them up a bit.
they be the same or worse doubt they be flat considering the tv men want pitches to turn from day 1.
actually think everyone want the pitches to turn from day 1, the players, the media, the fans, the people watching the game and probably neutrals as well.

really the fact the ball turns from day 1 explains Ashwin/Jadeja ridiculous stats in India or asia.
Ashwin probably takes a 5 wicket haul every innings in asia
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Old 30-10-2016, 16:45
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Bayliss pretty much confirmed 3 spinners but doesn't know the combination apart from Ali so two of Batty, Rashid and Ansari will play.
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Old 30-10-2016, 16:53
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Any chance of help from the weather in India or is it a 5-0 job in the prediction comp for everyone
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Old 30-10-2016, 17:06
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I think that's 7 drops today

England now 1/3 and Bangla 2/1
My money is on Bangla

Yes. Very poor.

Bangla deserved to win and were the best team over the two games.

Our bowling was not graet but we did get 40 wickets in the two games.

The failure was the batting.

I would not play Butler. I would send for an experienced middle order batter.
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Old 30-10-2016, 17:15
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The failure was the batting.

I would not play Butler. I would send for an experienced middle order batter.
I hear KP is available.......
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Old 30-10-2016, 18:12
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I hear KP is available.......
As is Ian Bell. No other candidates when it comes to experienced test players.
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Old 30-10-2016, 18:14
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The failure was the batting.
I heard Cook on the radio after the game and he seemed to be saying that the reason we lost was because we let them score too many in their second innings

In other words........it was the bowlers fault !
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Old 30-10-2016, 18:57
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I heard that radio interview and it was clear he was saying it was the fielder's fault including himself.
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Old 30-10-2016, 19:07
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Is Bangladesh beating England the biggest upset in the history of Test cricket
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Old 30-10-2016, 20:08
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Stokes has been fined 15% of his match fee for continuing to verbally abuse the batsmen after being warned not to

He's also got 1 'de-merit' point awarded to him as well

Fairly lucky I would think as I thought he would get a heavier penalty than that
In our league that would have been a 3 to 8 game ban.

I go with Ansari rather than Rashid because I'm not thinking that Rashid is showing enough to really nail down his place, or show he can be threatening, so I'd give Ansari a go. Saying that, its close.
I would go with Rashid. He averages 3 wickets a game, better than any of the others and he never sells his wicket cheaply.

Is Bangladesh beating England the biggest upset in the history of Test cricket
Certainly not
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