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I would go with Rashid. He averages 3 wickets a game, better than any of the others and he never sells his wicket cheaply. Certainly not As for the recent poor showing I blame the selecters who must take some responsiblity. If we'd let junior teams tour out there or on similar wickets in recent years surely we'd have some batsmen with the confidence and ability to play the likes of Mehedi etc. Quote:
Originally Posted by owen10 No we are the only test country brave enough to play tests there recently and with our poor pre test match preparation and batsmen not really skilled to play on these wickets. Bangladesh set the traps of these wickets and came away with one win. I'm sure other countries if they go over in similar circumstances will come unstuck too.
Is Bangladesh beating England the biggest upset in the history of Test cricket |
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It's not a bad idea to play Duckett at 4 but I doubt if the management will shift him after he played a good innings opening today. Assuming Ballance is dropped (which is not entirely certain) I can see them bringing in Buttler even though he hasn't been playing red-ball cricket.
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In our league that would have been a 3 to 8 game ban.
I would go with Rashid. He averages 3 wickets a game, better than any of the others and he never sells his wicket cheaply. Certainly not |
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What win in Test Cricket was the biggest upset ever then
What about the first time we lost to Zimbabwe ? Likewise Sri Lanka. After the first test it cannot be that great a shock that we lost rthe second test. |
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What about the first time we lost to Zimbabwe ? Likewise Sri Lanka. After the first test it cannot be that great a shock that we lost rthe second test. You cant say that these teams were poor |
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Zimbabwe back then had a decent side with two World Class players in Andy Flower and Heath Streak. Sri Lanka had Aravinda Da Silva, Chaminda Vaas, Sanath Jayasuriya and Muttiah Muralitharan
You cant say that these teams were poor But Zimbabwe were no decent side on paper. Andy Flower was world class and Heath Streak ok but most of the others wouldn't even be any good in County div2. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63734.html Here's the biggest Test upset i know of. Pakistan losing to Zimbabwe in 2013: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...ch/659557.html |
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not sure how losing to bangladesh this weekend can be classed as the biggest upset in test history given we almost lost to them just a week ago as well
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I think we can all assume the next time Bangladesh tour England they will be facing a very green top with a 4 seamer attack + Stokes............we all get carried away but our guys dont play on a dustbowl (or anything approaching) during an English summer.
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Zimbabwe back then had a decent side with two World Class players in Andy Flower and Heath Streak. Sri Lanka had Aravinda Da Silva, Chaminda Vaas, Sanath Jayasuriya and Muttiah Muralitharan
You cant say that these teams were poor |
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We didn't lose to Zimbabwe, we just failed to win a test match where Zim hid the ball for the last day to stop us knocking the runs off.
But Zimbabwe were no decent side on paper. Andy Flower was world class and Heath Streak ok but most of the others wouldn't even be any good in County div2. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63734.html Here's the biggest Test upset i know of. Pakistan losing to Zimbabwe in 2013: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...ch/659557.html |
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Looks like India got a small injury crisis although that might mean India guaranteed to play 3 spinners.
Although depends on the pitch with pandya included as well. |
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It's not a bad idea to play Duckett at 4 but I doubt if the management will shift him after he played a good innings opening today. Assuming Ballance is dropped (which is not entirely certain) I can see them bringing in Buttler even though he hasn't been playing red-ball cricket.
Is there room for both if we play one less seamer? That would possibly mean dropping Woakes or Finn and relying on two seamers + three spinners (Ali as all-rounder)? |
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Ist test
Cook Hameed Duckett Root Bairstow Stokes Buttler Woakes Ali Rashid Broad 2nd test...Someone will probably have to make room for Anderson |
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not the start SA would have wanted to the test series
cook gone in the first over of the day to starc cracking catch in the gully by marsh, ball that really bounced and went fast and high to him |
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SA in a bit of trouble early, amla gone as well
SA 5-2 after winning the toss and batting first |
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and now 20-3
KP with the benefit of hindsight saying he wasn't happy with the decision to bat first |
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not really liking the BT coverage of the test, as much as the channel 9 team annoy me, having the regular breaks in coverage to go back to the BT studio to get the views from ponting, vaughan and swann makes it feel a bit disjointed
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looking like a completely different game now that the kookaburra has got a bit softer and hasn't got the same carry or movement off the pitch
SA might regret not managing to get through that first session with a couple of more wickets in hand to be able to make the most of what looks like good batting conditions edit : 2 deliveries later Bavuma gets out to Nathan Lyon
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Terrific victory for the West Indies (even though it was a dead rubber)
Not many have won a Test away to Pakistan recently Their first away win for 9 years against a side ranked higher than them ![]() Big contribution from the unbeaten Kraigg Braithwaite with 142 * and 60* |
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Big contribution from the unbeaten Kraigg Braithwaite with 142 * and 60*
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wasn't really following that game but must have been a "timeless test" for Braithwaite to have faced enough deliveries to score 200 runs in a game
![]() ![]() Not sure how long it has been since a West Indies opener carried their bat either Unfortunately, they don't play another Test for 5 months. Plenty of time for plenty of fall outs...... |
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SA all out for 242
probably mixed feelings about that, after choosing to bat first i would expect they wanted alot more than that but after being 32-4 they will probably take it cracking innings of 84 by De Kock |
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comedy of errors there
massive appeal for an LBW from SA umpire gives it not out, SA review review shows it was a no-ball which the umpire missed but the hawkeye shows it was hitting so his LBW decision was wrong too |
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comedy of errors there
massive appeal for an LBW from SA umpire gives it not out, SA review review shows it was a no-ball which the umpire missed but the hawkeye shows it was hitting so his LBW decision was wrong too Always confuses me as to whether SA lose a review for this ? |
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Yeah, thought that was out in real time
Always confuses me as to whether SA lose a review for this ? |
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