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bradybrady
09-11-2016
Good positive play from England instead of the crazy 'must attack every ball' policy we seemed to adopt in Bangladesh

Only 6 maidens in 72 overs

Good strike rotation in the 4th wicket stand 138 so far in 40 overs
GrouchoM
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by bradybrady:
“Good positive play from England instead of the crazy 'must attack every ball' policy we seemed to adopt in Bangladesh

Only 6 maidens in 72 overs

Good strike rotation in the 4th wicket stand 138 so far in 40 overs”

The pitches in Bangladesh were not reliable enough to bat properly on - simple as that.
seansnotmyname@
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by GrouchoM:
“The pitches in Bangladesh were not reliable enough to bat properly on - simple as that.”

I agree to an extent, but at times our shot selection was odd, particularly the bloody sweep.
davethecue
09-11-2016
tricky one for the 3rd umpire - did Yadav have control or not...
davethecue
09-11-2016
Given out

Not sure if Sachin would have been given.....
seansnotmyname@
09-11-2016
Damn a bit unnecessary that, but the on-field decision had to stand really.
swingaleg
09-11-2016
I think the doubt on that one was caused by the bowler's reaction after tossing the ball up........he swivelled round as though trying to catch it again which suggests he wasn't sure himself

But it could have gone either way......
davethecue
09-11-2016
On TMS , they are comparing it to Herchelle Gibbs' non-catch in the 99 World Cup
seansnotmyname@
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“On TMS , they are comparing it to Herchelle Gibbs' non-catch in the 99 World Cup”

Don't see that, he definitely had it more under control than that, in the end it was the on-call umpires decision why he was out, if they'd gone upstairs with a "not sure", he'd still be in.

A little precarious for us now, if Moeen gets out soon, it's probably just a par score, obviously Stokes and JB are huge for us, backed by a strong tail, but a little worried. obviously losing a bowler would be not ideal for India, but they still have 3 quality spinners.
swingaleg
09-11-2016
Good start for England........over 300 and only 4 wickets down

That's about 3 times better than they usually do !

If the middle and tail can score a couple of hundred between them well be in a good position

fancy our seam bowlers might do ok in this game
seansnotmyname@
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“Good start for England........over 300 and only 4 wickets down

That's about 3 times better than they usually do !

If the middle and tail can score a couple of hundred between them well be in a good position

fancy our seam bowlers might do ok in this game”

They really should do okay, it was reversing a lot get more as the days go by y , and they're better bowlers IMHO.
Darren Lethem
09-11-2016
Where are all the "Got to be hammered 5-0 brigade ?" Same place as the "Ali shouldn't bat higher than 7 or Root isn't a number 3 brigade".
seansnotmyname@
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Where are all the "Got to be hammered 5-0 brigade ?" Same place as the "Ali shouldn't bat higher than 7 or Root isn't a number 3 brigade".”

Well I'm a member of the not a number 3 brigade, just rather he batted 4, not a big deal though. 49 average at 3 50 at 4, from the same amount of innings oddly. Just feel as our best bat I don't want him exposed to the new ball too quickly.

Moeen's innings will be instantly forgotten as soon as he fails again, same as when he takes wickets, as a fan of his you get used to it. Ideally Bairstow would bat up the order, but as keeper he may not want too.
howard h
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“I think the doubt on that one was caused by the bowler's reaction after tossing the ball up........he swivelled round as though trying to catch it again which suggests he wasn't sure himself

But it could have gone either way......”

That's the key. If the ball's under his control, why the panic looking for it to try to catch it again?
Where there are review systems it shouldn't be too much of a bother to introduce a 2-second rule where you HAVE to keep the ball in your hand. Then toss it up in the air!
SULLA
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Where are all the "Got to be hammered 5-0 brigade ?" Same place as the "Ali shouldn't bat higher than 7 or Root isn't a number 3 brigade".”

Here

Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Well I'm a member of the not a number 3 brigade, just rather he batted 4, not a big deal though. 49 average at 3 50 at 4, from the same amount of innings oddly. Just feel as our best bat I don't want him exposed to the new ball too quickly.

Moeen's innings will be instantly forgotten as soon as he fails again, same as when he takes wickets, as a fan of his you get used to it. Ideally Bairstow would bat up the order, but as keeper he may not want too.”

If England bat first there shouldn't be a problem with him batting at 5. He hasn't kept wicket at that stage. He is far more likely to be tired if he has a long innings at 7 and the tail collapses.
howard h
09-11-2016
Am I right in thinking they took the new ball - but changed their mind and carried on with the old one? Don't think that should be allowed. Once the new ball has been touched by the fielding side, that should be it - can't go back!

OK, a very minor point, but it might save an argument further down the line, and isn't as confusing for the scorers!!
howard h
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Here
If England bat first there shouldn't be a problem with him batting at 5. He hasn't kept wicket at that stage. He is far more likely to be tired if he has a long innings at 7 and the tail collapses.”

Flexible batting? If the top order fail then if JB's up the order he's going in without much rest - if the top order bat for a couple of sessions THEN move him up? It only displaces one batsman (who would move anyway if a night watchman was used).
davethecue
09-11-2016
Excellent 1st day that should instill a lot of confidence

Good Luck to Moeen in the morning

It said on TMS that there have been 14 instances of a batsman being 99* overnight and that on each occasion they have completed their 100....
dtcdtcdtc
09-11-2016
Echo the comments about it being a very good day for England

500+ should be within our capabilities from here

Makes a helluva difference when you start a 5 match series well

famous last words , but 5-0 not looking favourite now........
Callum Collum
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“Excellent 1st day that should instill a lot of confidence

Good Luck to Moeen in the morning

It said on TMS that there have been 14 instances of a batsman being 99* overnight and that on each occasion they have completed their 100....”

They do say there's a first time for everything.

But I hope this isn't it.
SULLA
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“I think the doubt on that one was caused by the bowler's reaction after tossing the ball up........he swivelled round as though trying to catch it again which suggests he wasn't sure himself

But it could have gone either way......”

Root should have been caught and so should have no complaints. I thought it was Not Out.

Originally Posted by howard h:
“Flexible batting? If the top order fail then if JB's up the order he's going in without much rest - if the top order bat for a couple of sessions THEN move him up? It only displaces one batsman (who would move anyway if a night watchman was used).”

Bairstow has broken a test match batting record this year. He should not be at number 7
ThomasStirk
09-11-2016
Probably the best knock from Mo in an England shirt fantastic partnership with Rooty
India will take the new ball early tomorrow which will be perfect for Stokes to play his shots
Hameed looked very assured for a 19 year old he will have some low scores but it's important we stick with this kid
Root once again a big match player quiet by his standards in Bangladesh, back to his world class best today
Stokes will be the key with the ball India got it reversing and we've all seen what he can do with the ball when it's doing that
dtcdtcdtc
10-11-2016
Another positive first hour with 60/1

Moeen completed an excellent 100 before shouldering arms to a straight one

Stokes and Bairstow both look in excellent nick

379/5 and a huge total loking likely
dtcdtcdtc
10-11-2016
India's fielding really helping England

Yadav has Stokes dropped by the keeper twice in successive overs

Both should really have been caught

411 /5 with both batsmen in one day mode
dtcdtcdtc
10-11-2016
Another excellent session for England 139/2

450/6 at lunch with Stokes going well

600 anyone.....?
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