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Bhaveshgor
13-11-2016
Never actually expected Darren lethem to drop a batsman after 3 games think the DS disease is spreading now.
Hayden
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Yes. Dukett hasn't added much and England do bat deep. Woakes is a great number 7”

Duckett hasn't added much and doesn't play for Yorkshire, so should be dropped already.
Darren Lethem
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Never actually expected Darren lethem to drop a batsman after 3 games think the DS disease is spreading now.”

Ha ha, it must be

I would only drop him to make way for Jimmy. If Anderson isn't fit then its as you were
seansnotmyname@
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Never actually expected Darren lethem to drop a batsman after 3 games think the DS disease is spreading now.”


Yes he is normally one of the more sane heads around here. I just don't see the point of 4 pace bowlers on spinning tracks, one or two of them will be hideously underbowled. If Duckett goes, bring in Buttler could see him doing damage on sub-continental pitches against spin.

I thought the 3 spin bowlers, even Ansari had their moments for England this match, they're 3 different types who all bowl genuine wicket-taking deliveries, Zafar bowled an unplayable one to Kohli in that last session, I might have been tempted to bowl him more than Moeen in the latter part, who was the steadier of the 3. but we didn't need steady then, needed wickets. Ali had also bowled a lot of overs which will affect what rip you can get into the ball.
davethecue
13-11-2016
If Jimmy does come back in, play Stokes as a batsman only as part of the rotation to stop stress injuries/over-bowling to the quicker bowlers

I think he warrants a place in the team as a batsman
Darren Lethem
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Yes he is normally one of the more sane heads around here. I just don't see the point of 4 pace bowlers on spinning tracks, one or two of them will be hideously underbowled. If Duckett goes, bring in Buttler could see him doing damage on sub-continental pitches against spin.

I thought the 3 spin bowlers, even Ansari had their moments for England this match, they're 3 different types who all bowl genuine wicket-taking deliveries, Zafar bowled an unplayable one to Kohli in that last session, I might have been tempted to bowl him more than Moeen in the latter part, who was the steadier of the 3. but we didn't need steady then, needed wickets. Ali had also bowled a lot of overs which will affect what rip you can get into the ball.”

I haven't made myself clear, apologies

I would use Stokes mainly as a batsmen and to bowl sparingly
seansnotmyname@
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“I haven't made myself clear, apologies

I would use Stokes mainly as a batsmen and to bowl sparingly”

Well that's not a bad idea I suppose, but it seems a waste when he can reverse it like he does, no-one else of our bowlers really can.

Yet I do concede your & davethecue's point about putting too much stresses on him.

Personally after this series I'd just say to him, we're not picking you for the limited overs and give him a long break.
SULLA
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“By far Rashid's best Test match this, will be interesting how it pans out over the matches, they just haven't read him at all well.”

Even with his disasterous first test against Pakistan, Rashid now has 22 wickets in 6 tests and his average is dropping all the time. Judge Bob Willis who would not have had him in the team because he's a luxury, might have something to say about that

Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Funny thing is england might not win the game because of the overrate.
england bowled 4 or 5 overs less in the 3rd day, England need them badly now, although india did bowl 3 overs extra in the first day so they probably hoped they didn't bowl that many now.”

They might have won if they had scored more runs before Lunch and then declared. Would Cook have declared if he had not been out ?

Originally Posted by dtcdtcdtc:
“Moeen and Rashid bowling really well together”

Why is Ali referred to at Moeen and Rashid called Rashid ?
Bhaveshgor
13-11-2016
Bad news for England and some good news for india.
Kl Rahul scores 76 his inclusion for the 3rd test would make india stronger in the batting.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ranji-tr...y/1066079.html
not really sure why Kumble adamant the players have to play domestic cricket or warm up games before coming back to the side from injuries.
howard h
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by SULLA:
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They might have won if they had scored more runs before Lunch and then declared. Would Cook have declared if he had not been out ?
?”

Think that 20/20 (and even 50/50) chase mentality has got into proper cricket. Remember the Middx/Yorks game where the declaration left 240 off 40 (think that's about right) and the commentators I heard were calling it "generous".

Nope, when you can bowl down the leg all day, and put your fielders where you like should the batting side get on top - there's simply no comparison. Much, much different in limited overs with sodding powerplays, then only five fielders outside etc etc.
Clank007
13-11-2016
The problem with the english test team is the captain - Alastair Cook.

He is such a timid captain who's mentality always seems to be "we must not lose" rather than "we can win"

If he'd have declared sooner rather than worrying about setting India a ridiculous 310 total to win, he would have had more time to bowl them out.
Also i think if India had had a total to chase they'd have been more likely to take risks and lose their wickets.

Australian and South African captains are by their nature more aggressive so have a more adventurous attitude to captaincy. They wouldnt have settled for trying not to lose at all costs.
I hope whoever takes over from Cook isnt so boring a captain as he has been
Bhaveshgor
13-11-2016
lol South African captains being adventurous, they are the most timid ones ever.
think only really Amla would risk to lose a game and even then the guy didn't want to lose a test when they only need 20 runs to win from 2-3 overs or something like that against india.
think Amla only been aggressive once in his captaincy career in Sri lanka.
for me Australia are the most aggressive and they are the ones that lost most often as well while they should be winning not one aggressive declaration made any difference to the game for them.

Also all the talk about england setting a declaration around 250, india scored 172.
bit of a risk setting a target of 250 on what they probably thought was a good batting deck at the time why risk losing a game which they worked so bloody hard to win.

really if england didn't take early wickets very good chance of india chasing 250 down or getting very close, no one would be that brave and declare at 0-0 with 4 to play in a test match both teams can't lose for confidence and momentum reasons.
Edit Smith was captain not amla.
but still SA needed 458 to win and they draw with 450 lol,
I couldn't stop laughing at them.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...ch/648665.html
SULLA
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Clank007:
“The problem with the english test team is the captain - Alastair Cook.

He is such a timid captain who's mentality always seems to be "we must not lose" rather than "we can win"

If he'd have declared sooner rather than worrying about setting India a ridiculous 310 total to win, he would have had more time to bowl them out.
Also i think if India had had a total to chase they'd have been more likely to take risks and lose their wickets.”

If they had scored more runs before Lunch they could jhave declared at Lunch

One problem that England had was that India lost too many wickets too early. England could not afford to keep them in the game artificially
mimik1uk
14-11-2016
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Yes he is normally one of the more sane heads around here. I just don't see the point of 4 pace bowlers on spinning tracks, one or two of them will be hideously underbowled. If Duckett goes, bring in Buttler could see him doing damage on sub-continental pitches against spin.
”

completely agree

dropping duckett to include anderson would just be a complete refusal to make a decision on what the best bowling attack is, if you cant win a game with 6 bowlers then a 7th isn't going to help

not to mention the message it would be sending to duckett "hey ben, we have zero faith in your ability to score runs at this level so we are going to drop you and replace you with a 7th bowler that we dont even need"

that'll do wonders for his confidence ...
Darren Lethem
14-11-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“completely agree

dropping duckett to include anderson would just be a complete refusal to make a decision on what the best bowling attack is, if you cant win a game with 6 bowlers then a 7th isn't going to help

not to mention the message it would be sending to duckett "hey ben, we have zero faith in your ability to score runs at this level so we are going to drop you and replace you with a 7th bowler that we dont even need"

that'll do wonders for his confidence ...”

Of course because you have blocked me you didn't see my follow up reply did you ? Saying I would play Stokes as a batsmen only and I would only drop Duckett to bring Jimmy back in. I wouldn't drop a spinner or Woakes and Broad is going nowhere.

But of course you didn't see that so you have tried to make me look like I don't know what I am talking about.

Just realised I am wasting my time as you wont see this either, perhaps somebody will quote it so you can see.
SULLA
14-11-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Of course because you have blocked me you didn't see my follow up reply did you ? Saying I would play Stokes as a batsmen only and I would only drop Duckett to bring Jimmy back in. I wouldn't drop a spinner or Woakes and Broad is going nowhere.

But of course you didn't see that so you have tried to make me look like I don't know what I am talking about.

Just realised I am wasting my time as you wont see this either, perhaps somebody will quote it so you can see.”

I quote this masterful post so those who haven't bloked me ( That's you Mr Lethem) can read it
Bhaveshgor
14-11-2016
Times of india reporting Rahul might play the 2nd test, wasn't meant to be in the squad in the 2nd test.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...w/55420138.cms

wonder how Nair feels if Rahul comes in and Gambhir stays in the team.
JSemple3
15-11-2016
Australia Walloped again I notice. WTF has gone wrong for them

By a innings and 80 runs too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKP91013
dtcdtcdtc
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by JSemple3:
“Australia Walloped again I notice. WTF has gone wrong for them

By a innings and 80 runs too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKP91013”

Lots of chopping and changing as they can't work out what their best X1 is. Very odd team selections as well.

Reminds me of us in the 90's

Didn't realise that this was South Africa's 3rd successive series win in Australia as well
dtcdtcdtc
15-11-2016
They quoted this tweet below on Cricinfo

Andy Zaltzman ✔@ZaltzCricket
Only team before SA to dismiss 16 Australians in single figures in a Test: England, at Oval in 1912 & 1896, & SCG in 1887-88. #itsbeenawhile

Wow
cantos
15-11-2016
This is the worst Australian team I have seen since the Packer days.

I can see Pakistan rolling them over as well in the later tests.
Bhaveshgor
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by cantos:
“This is the worst Australian team I have seen since the Packer days.

I can see Pakistan rolling them over as well in the later tests.”

For me depends on the decks flat Aussie win, any movement pak win.
Bhaveshgor
15-11-2016
KL Rahul officially added to the squad now and Kumble saying Anderson will make England a stronger opposition if he plays the 2nd test.
Wonder if that is mind games considering England press saying he is unlikely to play till Mohali with England sticking with the same team.
batdude_uk1
15-11-2016
Just what is going on with the Aussies?

They appear to be in a huge slump at the moment, their confidence must be shot to pieces.
Tele_Addict1
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by dtcdtcdtc:
“Lots of chopping and changing as they can't work out what their best X1 is. Very odd team selections as well.

Reminds me of us in the 90's

Didn't realise that this was South Africa's 3rd successive series win in Australia as well”

James Faulkner would be ideal at 6 with Wade coming in at 7.

As you say, too much chopping and changing, hard for the guys to gain confidence when they are only one or two bad games away from being dropped.
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