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International Cricket 2016
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mb@2day
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“could ban him from bowling.
Umpires generally don't do anything though while he batting or bowling.
umpires need to be strict since he always doing it, especially on this pitch where the footmarks appear very quickly should be very easy to tell if anyone been stepping on the pitch straightaway.”


It seems straightforward to me with this. The 3rd umpire watches the bowling closely and repeatedly and if he spots any bowler or even a fielder getting onto the red zone then give them a warning etc. Its tactical and its cynical to cause further wear to the pitch.

Dealing with crafty batsman running on the pitch appears to me less easy to punish.
Thrasymachus
20-11-2016
We'll probably lose tomorrow but at least we haven't collapsed like we did in Dhaka. I never expected anything less than a 4 or 5-0 Indian series victory so it is a nice surprise to see us performing better than expected.
Darren Lethem
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Thrasymachus:
“We'll probably lose tomorrow but at least we haven't collapsed like we did in Dhaka. I never expected anything less than a 4 or 5-0 Indian series victory so it is a nice surprise to see us performing better than expected.”

Whoooaaaa steady on. You are almost bordering on being complimentary about England
SULLA
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by dtcdtcdtc:
“Jadeja running down the pitch when over- appealing again.



He got warned when he was batting as well”

Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“Jadeja is an absolute gobshite. Are they going to do anything about him continually running on the pitch every time he launches into one of his OTT appeals?”

It's just cheating and should be dealt with according to law 42

Originally Posted by mb@2day:
“It seems straightforward to me with this. The 3rd umpire watches the bowling closely and repeatedly and if he spots any bowler or even a fielder getting onto the red zone then give them a warning etc. Its tactical and its cynical to cause further wear to the pitch.”

How do games get played without a 3rd umpire ???. The Bowlers end Umpire can easily see this.
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“ Dealing with crafty batsman running on the pitch appears to me less easy to punish.”

Not really. You just do it.
Thrasymachus
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Whoooaaaa steady on. You are almost bordering on being complimentary about England ”

I'm feeling more positive now it looks like we have a found a long-term opening batsman. I'm not sure about Duckett in Asian conditions but I would give him the series and let him play in the home series next year.

I just pray that I don't wake up tomorrow to find out that we have collapsed to 150 all out
gomezz
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“TBH the new Umpire calls made it harder for umpire call to actually show up, so suspect umpire calls might just be given back to the teams.
BCCI will give a report after the trial and suspect umpire call might be a topic, wouldn't surprise me if they changed rules on it like what botham says”

Not sure who first suggested it but Aggers has been banging on about it for years.
SULLA
21-11-2016
Ducket not ready for Test cricket.

The Elite Umpire guesses wrongly again.
dtcdtcdtc
21-11-2016
Not the start we hoped for with Duckett out with what will probably be his last innings for a while
Root successfully reviews a caught behind from another poor decision as well as being dropped by Kohli

The umpires are getting a break after this game as well which they'll probobly be thankful for as well
dtcdtcdtc
21-11-2016
The procession continues with Moeen gone for 2

75/0 to 101/4
SULLA
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by dtcdtcdtc:
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The umpires are getting a break after this game as well which they'll probobly be thankful for as well”

Put them back in normal cricket.
cantos
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Ducket not ready for Test cricket.

The Elite Umpire guesses wrongly again.”

I would have put my mortgage on him being out for a duck this morning.

Put him away until next summer and replace him in the next test with Butler.
bradybrady
21-11-2016
The expected collapse has happened 158 all out

Jimmy Anderson gets a king pair as well
dtcdtcdtc
21-11-2016
Disappointing end especially after how well we batted yesterday

Guess there will have to be changes

Duckett and Ansari look the obvious casualties with Buttler and Woakes replacing them ?
Bhaveshgor
21-11-2016
3 changes likely to happen.
Ansari, duckett and Broad out.
Batty, Finn, Ball, Butter all in consideration.
Suspect England might go with 4 fast bowlers in mohali but that might mean a long tail and them picking an attack on ground reputation and not what it is now.
aurichie
21-11-2016
I'd bring them all home now and take a 1-0 series loss. They clearly lack the skills to compete effectively in these conditions and are bringing shame on Queen and country.
batdude_uk1
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by dtcdtcdtc:
“Disappointing end especially after how well we batted yesterday

Guess there will have to be changes

Duckett and Ansari look the obvious casualties with Buttler and Woakes replacing them ?”

Batting well yesterday is totally irrelevant, if we collapse as we did once again.

No one comes out of this with any positives whatsoever.
davethecue
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“3 changes likely to happen.
Ansari, duckett and Broad out.
Batty, Finn, Ball, Butter all in consideration.
Suspect England might go with 4 fast bowlers in mohali but that might mean a long tail and them picking an attack on ground reputation and not what it is now.”

Would you not have Woakes back in the team , Bhav ?

No changes for India I guess with Rahul getting another chance ?
Callum Collum
21-11-2016
Let's not panic, though there surely will be changes. I'm guessing Broad will be unfit/rested so Woakes will come in there. Could be similar with Ansari with Batty or Ball coming in, depending on the pitch. Finally, it would be against the management's usual policy to drop Duckett though they might make an exception, even though there's no straightforward replacement.
batdude_uk1
21-11-2016
Going from the high of seeing Murray win, to the low seeing us capitulate here, some turnaround for British sport, in a relatively short time frame!
Villa
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“Kohli

Do agree with Botham though that you shouldn't lose a review if it's Umpire's Call like that.”

Im not against teams losing reviews for umpires calls as the DRS was brought in to eliminate howlers and not very marginal decisions.
Bhaveshgor
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by davethecue:
“Would you not have Woakes back in the team , Bhav ?

No changes for India I guess with Rahul getting another chance ?”

lol forgot about him.
but yeah he comes back in, think they still going for 4 pace men so it is batty or another pace men playing which is why I included Finn or ball name.
Bhaveshgor
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by aurichie:
“I'd bring them all home now and take a 1-0 series loss. They clearly lack the skills to compete effectively in these conditions and are bringing shame on Queen and country.”

That a bit harsh considering two test in india reached 5 days.
Thrasymachus
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Thrasymachus:
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I just pray that I don't wake up tomorrow to find out that we have collapsed to 150 all out”

England are so predictable. It's a shame I didn't have a bet on them collapsing AGAIN!
SULLA
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Batting well yesterday is totally irrelevant, if we collapse as we did once again.

No one comes out of this with any positives whatsoever.”

Have to disagree.

Originally Posted by Callum Collum:
“Let's not panic, though there surely will be changes. I'm guessing Broad will be unfit/rested so Woakes will come in there. Could be similar with Ansari with Batty or Ball coming in, depending on the pitch. Finally, it would be against the management's usual policy to drop Duckett though they might make an exception, even though there's no straightforward replacement.”

There is no straightforward replacement because they took the wrong people.

What does James Hildrith have to do to get a chance for England ?

Butler is not the answer for Englands No 4. Neither is Ali ( who is not the answer for number 5 either )

We took 20 wickets in this game. The problem was the batting
Darren Lethem
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Thrasymachus:
“England are so predictable. It's a shame I didn't have a bet on them collapsing AGAIN!”

You could have had a treble on them losing the series 5-0 which you very confidently predicted or them losing 4 wickets by close of play yesterday which you assumed would happen.

Why do you never ever post anything positive or constructive ? All your posts are so demoralising. I know you are a half glass empty man, you have told us that before, but surely the fact they didn't lose the first test and they have taken India, in India, to a 5th day isn't cause for doom and gloom is it ? Nobody expects them to win this series but to read some posts on here its like we have performed shockingly bad, we haven't. India in India are BLOODY GOOD and not easy to beat.

I will ask you a question and ask you, nicely, to answer it please - Who would be your England XI then ? Seeing as we obviously don't have the right team.
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