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Old 30-11-2016, 03:47
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Hameed was very stupid in my opinion, you don't put your health on the line like that, he should not have played.
As soon as the diagnosis came through, he should have been sent home to get the surgery.

People saying that what he did batting for three hours etc was brave etc, are just wrong, it was pure ego on his behalf, there are more important things in life than a match, especially one that we stood no chance of winning.
And there was me thinking getting hit lots more times on an already broken little finger will make absolutely no difference to the injury or recovery time. I didn't realise it could result in long term permanent injury or death instead. You best tell Martin Guptil immediately, he seems to have been playing Test cricket for years with 3 missing toes
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Old 30-11-2016, 10:21
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Jennings and Dawson called up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38140767

Will they get thrown straight in?
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Old 30-11-2016, 10:22
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I would guess Jennings will go straight into the team for Hameed. Also I guess Batty will drop out. Dawson could come in but more likely Broad (if fit).
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Old 30-11-2016, 11:16
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Jennings and Dawson called up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38140767

Will they get thrown straight in?

Good to see the selectors went with one of my ideas

Dunno about Dawson but perhaps having Borthwick in the attack would be like showing them too much leggie ( is that a cricketing parlance ? )
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Old 30-11-2016, 11:44
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No Jack Leach? ECB really do love there all rounders don't they
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Old 30-11-2016, 17:54
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Not decrying Jennings talent/potential but that leaves Root as the only right hander in the likely top 5
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Old 30-11-2016, 18:30
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Not decrying Jennings talent/potential but that leaves Root as the only right hander in the likely top 5
makes no sense when you find this out.
Ashwin is averaging 18.83 against left-handers in this series, 82.33 to right-handers.
Ashwin killing left handers on some docile pitches at the moment, going to be quite tough having Cook, Jennings, Ali, Stokes in the top 6.
Cook, Ali been struggling lately, tough on jenning to bat against someone at his peak, you can generally tell a spinner bowling well when he beats batsman on drift and dip.
stokes batting the best at the moment but even then getting out to some gems from Ashwin.

Worry for england would be they now playing on Mumbai and Chennai which got a reputation for spinning on day 1.
Red soils pitches tend to spin quite early and deteriorate quickly which is what some english journalist don't understand why Dawson got picked since in a rank turner england will pick another batsman and even if they pick a 3rd spinner dawson hardly going to bowl if they don't trust Batty.
Dawson a baffling choice considering an extra batsman or leach would have been a better choice.
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Old 30-11-2016, 20:02
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Murali vijay and Rahane should not play the next test. Hope Lokesh Rahul and Rohit Sharma are fit.
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Old 01-12-2016, 03:22
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Not decrying Jennings talent/potential but that leaves Root as the only right hander in the likely top 5
Have you got Bairstow at 6/7 again ?

makes no sense when you find this out.

Ashwin killing left handers on some docile pitches at the moment, going to be quite tough having Cook, Jennings, Ali, Stokes in the top 6.
Cook, Ali been struggling lately, tough on jenning to bat against someone at his peak, you can generally tell a spinner bowling well when he beats batsman on drift and dip.
stokes batting the best at the moment but even then getting out to some gems from Ashwin.

Worry for england would be they now playing on Mumbai and Chennai which got a reputation for spinning on day 1.
Red soils pitches tend to spin quite early and deteriorate quickly which is what some english journalist don't understand why Dawson got picked since in a rank turner england will pick another batsman and even if they pick a 3rd spinner dawson hardly going to bowl if they don't trust Batty.
Dawson a baffling choice considering an extra batsman or leach would have been a better choice.
If there are too many left handers, drop one of them. I suggest Ali.
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:16
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England are really a bits and pieces side at the moment, with so many players, especially around the middle order, not having real, set roles.

As a Hampshire fan, no way should Liam Dawson be anywhere near that test squad. Solid player, but not test class.
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:38
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England are really a bits and pieces side at the moment, with so many players, especially around the middle order, not having real, set roles.

As a Hampshire fan, no way should Liam Dawson be anywhere near that test squad. Solid player, but not test class.
Think a lot of our problems lies with the two-division system. Sure, if you are in the first then you should get to play against quality opposition all the time and therefore learn and be equipped for Tests, but for players that are good but in the second division, maybe finding it a bit easy, they aren't being tested as they would in the first, whereas if we had one large division (as used to be) then at least half the games would be challenging.

Q - would Hameed, at 19, have been picked if his season average was 50 but in the second division?? Would Duckett be a better equipped player had he been playing first division cricket?
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:56
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India are a very good team who are brilliant at home.
England are a very good team who are brilliant at home.

England will trounce India tomorrow if the game was played in England.

Home advantage is just too great. Its a combination of weather (col vs hot) humidity (lack of in Uk) and pitches.
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Old 01-12-2016, 14:23
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India are a very good team who are brilliant at home.
England are a very good team who are brilliant at home.
I disagree about England. They are an OK team away, dependant on the opposition and a good team at home. Short of quality batters.

England will trounce India tomorrow if the game was played in England.
They wouldn't be be to play this time of year.
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Old 01-12-2016, 18:42
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Have you got Bairstow at 6/7 again ?


At 6

I'm assuming the order will be

1 Cook
2 Jennings
3 Root
4 Moeen
5 Stokes
6 Bairstow
7 Buttler
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:18
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At 6

I'm assuming the order will be

1 Cook
2 Jennings
3 Root
4 Moeen
5 Stokes
6 Bairstow
7 Buttler
Ali at 4 again ?
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Old 02-12-2016, 20:29
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I think this will be a good thing if we used it over here as well


New Zealand Cricket is set to introduce the concussion substitute rule in this season's domestic limited-overs competitions - the McDonald's Super Smash T20, which begins on December 4, and the 50-over Ford Trophy, which begins on January 15, 2017.

New Zealand Cricket, however, will not have the concussion substitute rule in the Plunket Shield as the ICC had earlier rejected the idea for first-class cricket.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzeala...y/1070110.html
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Old 03-12-2016, 19:33
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Another win for the Lions with good performances again from Tom Curran(5/16) and JackLeach(3/7)
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:05
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Australia make 324-8 in the first ODI against NZ. Smith 164, terrific innings. NZ reply on BT Sport 3 now, Latham goes early.
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Old 04-12-2016, 09:33
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Not my favourite cricketer, but Steve Smith is having a helluva day

Following his 164, he has taken 2 tough catches , the 2nd of which that dismissed Watling was a stunner

Likely to be replayed forever on Australian cricket coverage .......
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Old 04-12-2016, 09:44
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Scyld Berry has the gall to suggest that Cook should be replaced as captain if he loses the 4th test.

What an idiot. Replace the captain mid tour, for just the last test. As if its Cooks fault that the pitch suits Indian spinners or that at home Indians are transformed into very very good players.

His articles are also close to the line with regards to the culture. Got embroiled in online spat about caste issues and why lower casts clean bins etc etc.
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:05
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New Zealand still in with a fair chance in this run chase

140 needed off 104 balls with 6 wickets left

Guptil, the key , is 114*
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:06
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and then he holes out to a long-hop...
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:35
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Scyld Berry has the gall to suggest that Cook should be replaced as captain if he loses the 4th test.

What an idiot. Replace the captain mid tour, for just the last test. As if its Cooks fault that the pitch suits Indian spinners or that at home Indians are transformed into very very good players.

His articles are also close to the line with regards to the culture. Got embroiled in online spat about caste issues and why lower casts clean bins etc etc.
It is not as if there are lots of options to replace him as captain either, quite who he thinks should replace Cook I don't know.

For the record, I do think Cook should carry on, no matter what happens from no on in this tour.
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Old 05-12-2016, 04:35
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Scyld Berry has the gall to suggest that Cook should be replaced as captain if he loses the 4th test.

What an idiot. Replace the captain mid tour, for just the last test. As if its Cooks fault that the pitch suits Indian spinners or that at home Indians are transformed into very very good players.

His articles are also close to the line with regards to the culture. Got embroiled in online spat about caste issues and why lower casts clean bins etc etc.
He's not a great captain but I can't see a replacement yet.
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Old 05-12-2016, 18:38
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No new names in the limited over squads announced today:

Ben Duckett was "desperately unlucky" to be squeezed out of the England ODI squad by the return of Eoin Morgan, Alex Hales and Joe Root, according to the coach, Trevor Bayliss.

Squads


England ODI squad: Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jonathan Bairstow, Jake Ball, Sam Billings, Jos Buttler, Liam Dawson, Alex Hales, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey, Chris Woakes

England T20 squad: Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jake Ball, Sam Billings, Jos Buttler, Liam Dawson, Alex Hales, Chris Jordan, Tymal Mills, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey


http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-...y/1070504.html
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