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Old 20-03-2016, 11:40
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Old 20-03-2016, 11:43
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shahzad gone , i think he needed to be in for another 4 or 5 overs if afghanistan were going to have a chance here
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Old 20-03-2016, 11:43
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On a more serious note, the closer that Afghanistan can get to SA's total, the less SA's net r/r will improve which would be good for us in a group where net r/r could decide who progresses
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Old 20-03-2016, 11:45
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On a more serious note, the closer that Afghanistan can get to SA's total, the less SA's net r/r will improve which would be good for us in a group where net r/r could decide who progresses
ideally we want the WI to keep winning so that we just need to win our own games to qualify and not worry about net run rate at all
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Old 20-03-2016, 12:07
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afghanistan still well on target here

103-2 at the halfway stage
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Old 20-03-2016, 12:40
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looks like afghanistan are going to fall short here , just dont have the depth of batting to sustain the run rate once a couple of wickets fell

gave SA a bit of a scare i would think tho
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Old 20-03-2016, 14:32
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What a breath of fresh air Afghanistan have being in the tournament. Ok, they have yet to win a Super 10s game but they show plenty of fight and spirit. Certainly not there to just make up the numbers.
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Old 20-03-2016, 15:55
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Incredible scenes in Banglore with the crowd chanting we want Gayle.
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Old 20-03-2016, 15:57
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ideally we want the WI to keep winning so that we just need to win our own games to qualify and not worry about net run rate at all
Works both ways you either want Sri Lanka to win or West Indies to win all games.
Reckon Sri Lanka winning is the best chance for England to qualify.
Crucial game in the group is now West Indies vs SA, SA win that and it is very likely England lose out on NRR.
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Old 20-03-2016, 16:08
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Chris Gayle left the field injured so is unable to open the batting

Doesn't look as if the Windies are missing him though having raced to 29/0 in 3 overs
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Old 20-03-2016, 16:29
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Works both ways you either want Sri Lanka to win or West Indies to win all games.
Reckon Sri Lanka winning is the best chance for England to qualify.
Crucial game in the group is now West Indies vs SA, SA win that and it is very likely England lose out on NRR.
not really as we still have to play sri lanka whereas we have lost to the WI

if sri lanka beat the WI and we beat sri lanka we end up on the same points as them and it comes down to NRR , if WI win all their games and we win our other 2 we finish second in the group and qualify
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Old 20-03-2016, 16:53
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Third Umpires still absolutely clueless about the foreshortening effect of the camera. That was out.
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Old 20-03-2016, 17:02
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Very happy with how the windies are going. Beat England and then restricted SL to a low score.

Two difficult games and look to be passing the test.
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Old 20-03-2016, 17:08
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not really as we still have to play sri lanka whereas we have lost to the WI

if sri lanka beat the WI and we beat sri lanka we end up on the same points as them and it comes down to NRR , if WI win all their games and we win our other 2 we finish second in the group and qualify
Sri lanka are crap they are not gonna win 2 or 3 games.

I am basing this on WI beat Sri lanka and AFG so 6 points but lose to SA
SA beating WI, Sri lanka
England beating Sri lanka and Afghanistan

in this scenario NRR would come into play and is likely england will lose out.

England need Sri lanka to cause an upset or WI win all games.

PS if Sri lanka win today
only 2 team can get 6 points or 3 teams get 4 teams which is very very unlikely.

basically if Sri lanka win it removes the need of NRR for england, WI win NRR is very important.
anyway Sri lanka are losing the game.
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Old 20-03-2016, 17:09
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Assuming Windies win this then that's the best result for England.......we need the Windies to win all their games then our fate is back in our own hands

we won't have to depend on run rates or other teams doing us favours.......win our two remaining games and we're through
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Old 20-03-2016, 17:10
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Sri lanka are crap they are not gonna win 2 or 3 games.

I am basing this on WI beat Sri lanka and AFG so 6 points but lose to SA
SA beating WI, Sri lanka
England beating Sri lanka and Afghanistan

in this scenario NRR would come into play and is likely england will lose out.


England need Sri lanka to cause an upset or WI win all games.

PS if Sri lanka win today
only 2 team can get 6 points or 3 teams get 4 teams which is very very unlikely.

basically if Sri lanka win it removes the need of NRR for england, WI win NRR is very important.
anyway Sri lanka are losing the game.
but if the WI do win all their games then england are the only other team in the group that can actually win 3 games and thus remove the need to worry about NRR

which is why i said the ideal scenario for england is the WI winning all their games ...
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Old 20-03-2016, 17:11
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Assuming Windies win this then that's the best result for England.......we need the Windies to win all their games then our fate is back in our own hands

we won't have to depend on run rates or other teams doing us favours.......win our two remaining games and we're through
Issue is I don't see West Indies beating South Africa especially on Nagpur.
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Old 20-03-2016, 17:13
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Issue is I don't see West Indies beating South Africa especially on Nagpur.
maybe not but it doesn't change the fact if the WI do win all their games then that is the best option for england ...
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Old 20-03-2016, 17:14
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the other option is for Sri Lanka to beat South Africa, but Sri lanka look so terrible at the moment hard to see it happening.
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Old 20-03-2016, 17:17
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maybe not but it doesn't change the fact if the WI do win all their games then that is the best option for england ...
true did say West indies need to win all games or Sri lanka beat west indies.
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Old 20-03-2016, 17:27
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the good thing for england was that West indies didn't win well today.
Expected the NRR to increase after dismissing Sri lanka for cheap.

had a play with the NRR and it is still in england grasp to get a good run rate.
https://www.easycalculation.com/spor...calculator.php
WI not winning well today might be crucial next week.

England need to hope they bat first so they can make the most out of the NRR since one big win against Afghanistan should be enough.
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Old 20-03-2016, 19:05
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the good thing for england was that West indies didn't win well today.
Expected the NRR to increase after dismissing Sri lanka for cheap.

had a play with the NRR and it is still in england grasp to get a good run rate.
https://www.easycalculation.com/spor...calculator.php
WI not winning well today might be crucial next week.

England need to hope they bat first so they can make the most out of the NRR since one big win against Afghanistan should be enough.
Might be better to put them in, hope for a low-ish score and chase the runs down very quickly as Holland did to Ireland last time? That way you should also know just what you need to get past the WI r/r, whereas you don't batting first (??).

However, a win and a win means they can't not qualify regardless of r/r.......I think!!
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Old 20-03-2016, 19:50
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Might be better to put them in, hope for a low-ish score and chase the runs down very quickly as Holland did to Ireland last time? That way you should also know just what you need to get past the WI r/r, whereas you don't batting first (??).

However, a win and a win means they can't not qualify regardless of r/r.......I think!!
TBH it is easier to increase NRR by batting first but the only catch is that you are not in control unless you got a gun bowling attack but with them playing afghanistan they should be able to win by 60-80 runs if they bat big in the first innings.
I think the equivalent is to win by 6 overs to spare which is a tough ask and top of that always a chance of losing the game.

The only reason Holland or Mumbai indians have done it is because they have nothing to lose so they go all out for the win in 13-15 overs but is always a risky approach.

if you need to make up a huge amount of NRR batting first works best easier to win by 40-60 runs.
if you need to make up a small amount of NRR batting second works best since it is easier to win by 1 over spare than winning by 5-10 runs.

If they beat Afghanistan really well on Wednesday it is quite possible they take NRR out of the sri lanka game.
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Old 20-03-2016, 20:41
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if we win our last 2 games, and i dont think thats by any means a certainty, then it could still come down to NRR if the WI lose to SA as all three teams will have 3 wins out of 4
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Old 20-03-2016, 22:01
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Or Sri lanka can beat South Africa which would probably knock them out.
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