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International Cricket 2016
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Nova21
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by howard h:
“When Sri Lanka were fresh to the test match scene, they had just the two forms of cricket to deal with, and IIRC they won the World Cup before becoming a solid Test side (could be wrong, please correct).

Bangladesh have now three forms to cope with, with different styles of play etc, and I'm wondering if they shouldn't decide to put all their resources into one form (test or 20/20) and try to be good at that? same problem for Afghanistan too, should they ever get Test status.”

Yep, Jayusariya changed the one day game in that tournament,
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Nova21:
“It wasn't a dig, I've genuinely wondered for a few years.... Maybe they would beat England in a one off twenty over game, but I think it's a stretch to say they are a top team now. They have pushed on like Sri Lanka managed to do.”

You do realise they beat South Africa, India, Pakistan, NZ, WI all at recent times..
Beat england at the past 2 world cups.
Oh reached 2 asia cup final in the past 3 tournaments.

They are no push overs.
Got some quality players as well, Mustafizur Rahman. Shakib, Tamim Iqbal, Rahim, Sabbir Rahman.

So annoying when people don't even follow Bangladesh and assume they are still shit like 2003.


EDIT I apologise if I sounded rude, just so annoying when people attack Bangladesh when they are a very good side now.
Nova21
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“You do realise they beat South Africa, India, Pakistan, NZ, WI all at recent times..
Beat england at the past 2 world cups.
Oh reached 2 asia cup final in the past 3 tournaments.

They are no push overs.
Got some quality players as well, Mustafizur Rahman. Shakib, Tamim Iqbal, Rahim, Sabbir Rahman.

So annoying when people don't even follow Bangladesh and assume they are still shit like 2003.”

As I said, it wasnt a dig. Thanks for the reply.
howard h
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Nova21:
“Yep, Jayusariya changed the one day game in that tournament,”

In the early days, unless my memory is completely scrambled I remember SL's opening bowler, a huge lad called "John" just lumbering to the crease bowling to Fowler at Lord's, and me thinking "Fowler's got an easy 250 here if he wants" and he got 25
howard h
27-03-2016
http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/co...ry/988631.html
Interesting read about Test Championship
Darren Lethem
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“LOL you clearly don't watch cricket.
IF bangladesh were in England group they would have probably qualified for the semis.
Bangladesh are a top team now.”

You really are in a mood this weekend Bhav. Snide comments and sarcasm galore. As for Bangladesh qualifying had they being in with England, SA, WI and Sri Lanka you have as much idea knowing that as if Afghanistan would have in the group of death, as you keep calling it. You are going to be one very bitter and sour loser if Strayer beat your boys today.
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“You really are in a mood this weekend Bhav. Snide comments and sarcasm galore. As for Bangladesh qualifying had they being in with England, SA, WI and Sri Lanka you have as much idea knowing that as if Afghanistan would have in the group of death, as you keep calling it. You are going to be one very bitter and sour loser if Strayer beat your boys today.”

In current form Bangladesh would beat Sri lanka.

Would then only need to beat one or two of WI, England, SA to qualify.
Bangladesh a top team.

If you don't think India, Pakistan, Australia, Bangladesh, New Zealand isn't a group of death then clearly you don't know the meaning of the world.

Edit just realised they can't play Afghanistan. lol
dtcdtcdtc
27-03-2016
No 3rd man in a T20

Surprising
Darren Lethem
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“In current form Bangladesh would beat Afghanistan and Sri lanka.

Would then only need to beat one of WI, England, SA to qualify.
Bangladesh a top team.

If you don't think India, Pakistan, Australia, Bangladesh, New Zealand isn't a group of death then clearly you don't know the meaning of the world.”

Know the meaning of which word ? Group ? Of ? or Death ? And yes I do. Pakistan for me certainly haven't shown themselves to be the team they were. Just because your team has under performed don't take it out on others. As for Bangladesh beating Sri Lanka, well that is opinion not fact. And they would not qualify because if they were in Group 2 then Afghanistan wouldn't be would they ?

You deal in hypothetics , I will deal in facts.
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“You really are in a mood this weekend Bhav. Snide comments and sarcasm galore. As for Bangladesh qualifying had they being in with England, SA, WI and Sri Lanka you have as much idea knowing that as if Afghanistan would have in the group of death, as you keep calling it. You are going to be one very bitter and sour loser if Strayer beat your boys today.”

By the way don't see what wrong with saying Banglandesh would probably qualify from that group when you consider Sri lanka are crap, South africa are in bad form, England and WI are vulnerable.

Anyway the point is Bangladesh are not crap or shit they could probably beat every full member side in limited over cricket these days.

Anyone that calls Bangladesh shit or crap is talking bollocks.
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Know the meaning of which word ? Group ? Of ? or Death ? And yes I do. Pakistan for me certainly haven't shown themselves to be the team they were. Just because your team has under performed don't take it out on others. As for Bangladesh beating Sri Lanka, well that is opinion not fact. And they would not qualify because if they were in Group 2 then Afghanistan wouldn't be would they ?

You deal in hypothetics , I will deal in facts.”

By the way I don't give a shit if india win or lose it doesn't bother me.

Well bangladesh thrash Sri lanka last month and Bangladesh got a far better team on Paper than Sri lanka.
Would make Bangladesh favorites against Sri lanka if they play any games or series against each other.
dtcdtcdtc
27-03-2016
Terrific start for Australia that has silenced the crowd
52/0 in the 4th over
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Know the meaning of which word ? Group ? Of ? or Death ? And yes I do. Pakistan for me certainly haven't shown themselves to be the team they were. Just because your team has under performed don't take it out on others. As for Bangladesh beating Sri Lanka, well that is opinion not fact. And they would not qualify because if they were in Group 2 then Afghanistan wouldn't be would they ?

You deal in hypothetics , I will deal in facts.”

I have no idea why you attacking me when my entire argument and point is that Bangladesh are not shit or crap.

And Facts will show Bangladesh are not crap or shit any more.

The rest of the stuff doesn't even matter since I only mentioned Bangladesh to qualify from the other group to show or illustrate to the other poster Bangladesh are no mugs or easy win now.
Anyway before the tournament started Bangladesh fans and players were disappointed that they were not in the other group they expected or believed they could get to the semis in England groups.
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
Key over in the game, If Australia attack Ashwin here they are probably massive favourites to win.
If Ashwin takes a wicket here or bowls some tight overs reckon India would win this.
Jamesp84
27-03-2016
Someone's tired.
howard h
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“I have no idea why you attacking me when my entire argument and point is that Bangladesh are not shit or crap.

And Facts will show Bangladesh are not crap or shit any more.”

As good an argument as any for having a Test Championship
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by howard h:
“As good an argument as any for having a Test Championship ”

agree.
Can't see it happening though.
Can see a 2 division but India, England and Australia having guaranteed participation in the top division.
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
Kohli should sledge Smith here saying you failed in a big game.
Darren Lethem
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“By the way don't see what wrong with saying Banglandesh would probably qualify from that group when you consider Sri lanka are crap, South africa are in bad form, England and WI are vulnerable.

Anyway the point is Bangladesh are not crap or shit they could probably beat every full member side in limited over cricket these days.

Anyone that calls Bangladesh shit or crap is talking bollocks.”

Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“I have no idea why you attacking me when my entire argument and point is that Bangladesh are not shit or crap.

And Facts will show Bangladesh are not crap or shit any more.

The rest of the stuff doesn't even matter since I only mentioned Bangladesh to qualify from the other group to show or illustrate to the other poster Bangladesh are no mugs or easy win now.
Anyway before the tournament started Bangladesh fans and players were disappointed that they were not in the other group they expected or believed they could get to the semis in England groups.”

Who has said that ? Nobody. Nova asked why Bangladesh haven't progressed as much as he thought they should. No mention of the words C*** or S*** only by you.
howard h
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“agree.
Can't see it happening though.
Can see a 2 division but India, England and Australia having guaranteed participation in the top division.”

If there was going to be one, having all countries playing each other H+A would take 5 - 6 yrs; so is impractical.
Two other options, two divisions with relegation/promotion, or tw equal leagues and top two play in a final.
Can't see any other obvious method? Of the two, which would be better? There are pros and con's with both, but the elephant is the Ashes will always want to be played every few years, not guaranteed if they are not in the same league.
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Who has said that ? Nobody. Nova asked why Bangladesh haven't progressed as much as he thought they should. No mention of the words C*** or S*** only by you.”

Sorry I assumed Nova was calling Bangladesh crap/Shit.
plus for some stupid reason when ever Associates do good everyone Attacks Bangladesh for no apparent reason, Similar thing was happening on twitter on social media so I assumed Nova was still thinking Bangladesh are terrible like they were in 2003.

plus it is annoying when everyone gets surprised Bangladesh wins a game considering they been a top side since probably 2009.
if anyone need to attack a full member it is Zimbabwe.

Plus saying bangladesh progressing slow is so annoying when you considering they probably progressed the quickest out of all team except for Sri lanka which had a gun generation they probably now going to be the weakest Sub Continent team now,

India, Pakistan, WI, NZ, were all crap for at least 30-50 years.
Sri lanka were terrible until 1996 started playing around 1980s 16 years.

So ridiculous expecting Bangladesh to be a gun team straight away when they are facing 8 proper teams with proper first class structure.
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
Surprised Pandya doing well considering he a shit bowler.
He only playing because he can bat and is a gun fielder.
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
The pitches have been fascinating in this tournament.
We have Delhi that quicken through the night, Manjreker made a interesting point earlier saying it turns less at 10pm but turns at 8pm.
Mohali, Dharamsala gets slower as the game gets going and supposedly slower during the night.
Wankhede been a road.
Eden park is probably similar to mohali quick scoring in first 6 overs and slower afterwards,
Bhaveshgor
27-03-2016
Think Australia need 200 here to be favourites or likely to win.
I would back india to chase 180 here.
swingaleg
27-03-2016
India doing a good job of dragging this back after the Aussies got over 50 in the first 4 overs
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