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International Cricket 2016
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Nova21
30-03-2016
Originally Posted by howard h:
“Where's Ballance in the pecking order?”

Nowhere in terms of opening batsmen... And not sure he has done enough since being dropped or that there is space for him in the middle order for him to get back in at the mo
Bhaveshgor
30-03-2016
Would have Finn ahead of Willey right now.
not really sure about willey yet not sure he can be a 3rd seam option in Test cricket.
to be a 3rd bowler you have to really offer something with the ball.

Plus Mark wood was ok in the winter so would probably be 4th in the pecking order and then Plunkett and then Jack brooks.
Mark F
30-03-2016
Fantastic stuff - the team are showing such great confidence and form they will feel comfortable playing either India or the West Indies.
howard h
30-03-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Fantastic stuff - the team are showing such great confidence and form they will feel comfortable playing either India or the West Indies.”

Worry is after a slow start (hey, they could have been first out of their own party!!) the Indians are warming to the task, and won't they have wickets prepared that assist them? That being said, I think the wickets have been just fine and nothing untoward; today's wicket looked greener than Old Trafford after a week's deluge!
howard h
30-03-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Would have Finn ahead of Willey right now.
not really sure about willey yet not sure he can be a 3rd seam option in Test cricket.
to be a 3rd bowler you have to really offer something with the ball.
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The option is to include both in the squad and look at the wicket on the day, If it's green and might swing go for Willey (so Willey/Anderson, what a combo); if it's likely to give good bounce then Finn (Finn/Broad as above). Lovely to have this choice!
Keyser_Soze1
30-03-2016
T-20 is very much the 'third' form of the game for me and as I only have Freeview I have not commented on this thread recently but I just wanted to say what a great performance that was by England and throughout the tournament after a very dodgy start.

Good luck on Sunday lads.
alfamale
30-03-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Would have Finn ahead of Willey right now.
not really sure about willey yet not sure he can be a 3rd seam option in Test cricket.
to be a 3rd bowler you have to really offer something with the ball.

Plus Mark wood was ok in the winter so would probably be 4th in the pecking order and then Plunkett and then Jack brooks.”

Agree with your 1-5 Eng Test bowlers - Jimmy, Broad, Finn, Wood, Plunkett. No idea after that!

I think the elation of us actually having a limited overs side that if anything are brilliantly (slightly) overachieving has gone to peoples heads. Guessing from cricinfo stats it looks like Willey isnt a regular selection for Northants 4-day side in County Div2. Just 5 matches in 2015 for Willey brought 14 wkts at 36.5 avg. A better 2014 though, 8 matches in Div1 with 19 wkts at 27.1

When he swings it he's quality but when there's no swing who knows if he's got any other tools, because he just looks very medium pace up & down. Today he only bowled 2 overs up, first up when a chance of some swing. 2016 should reveal all, assuming Willey is selected as 3rd or 4th seamer at Yorks
alfamale
30-03-2016
Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“Who does Eng want in the finals. Gayle or Kohli?”

Definitely WIndies and Gayle. WI more erratic and Gayle cant go big every time. Also i think we can almost any size score against WIndies attack Whereas India have a very good bowling attack for the conditions at Kolkata and surely one or two of their underperforming batsmen might remember how to play T20 in front of such huge support.
SULLA
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“certainly a bit of KP about him with some of the clips into the on side he plays”

Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“I was talking about appearance not style of play”

Poor Jason

Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“england win the toss and bowl first , unchanged from the last game”

Need to win the toss in the final !!!!

Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“How can the umpire give that a wide when the ball went under the bat.”

They are poor.

Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Bloody hell Buttler is slow, if dhoni was keeping that was out.”

If that was Bairstow half 'The Verdict' would be dedicated to it

Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Good spell from Rashid that.”

He is usually good.

Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“When it comes to cricket intelligence what the hell do you know ? Absolutely bugger all.”

Charming

Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“with afridi it is 50-50.
he might want to tour England again with Pakistan lol.”

He's still one of their best players

Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“Who does Eng want in the finals. Gayle or Kohli?”

Kohli is reliable Gayle is not

Originally Posted by howard h:
“How many of the team who played today will be in the XI for the First Test which isn't that far away? Thinking they're in form, full of beans and confidence, can good 20/20 players really not hack it at Test level?
Root/Stokes/Ali guaranteed of course, Buttler's out of the squad and in the IPL which is massively disapponting for England/Lancashire fans, who else should be given a go?”

Ali would not be in my team.
Bhaveshgor
31-03-2016
Interesting comment here from the journalist.
Quote:
“It's all well and good bellowing for change, but who are the alternates? And the answer is… well… we don't really know. Because away from Kate Cross, Fran Wilson and Lauren Winfield, there are but a handful of players in the wings. The player pool, as Robinson has stated, is not competitive enough.

But at the moment, it looks like England are contractually obliged not to look beyond their centrally contracted. And until they are brave enough - or even allowed - to do so, it is unlikely that things will change.”

http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-wome...ry/993189.html
Darren Lethem
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“dont beat around the bush darren , say what you think ”

Cannot be doing with all the trolling Mimi. How anyone can call England's bowlers imbeciles shows a total lack of any cricketing knowledge and only on here for a wind up
mimik1uk
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Cannot be doing with all the trolling Mimi. How anyone can call England's bowlers imbeciles shows a total lack of any cricketing knowledge and only on here for a wind up”

not disagreeing with you

i know i can be critical at times but i usually try to back up my criticisms

it is funny how you just know that certain posters will appear when we have a little bad spell in a game
Darren Lethem
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“not disagreeing with you

i know i can be critical at times but i usually try to back up my criticisms

it is funny how you just know that certain posters will appear when we have a little bad spell in a game”

exactly
Mitu_Pappi
31-03-2016
Whats happened to Rashid. He looks like an old man now. All boyish looks gone.

And whats with all these beards. Kohli, Jadeja, Guptil, Stokes, Plunkett, Rashid, Sharma etc etc.

Thank god Root cant grow one yet
mimik1uk
31-03-2016
WI beat NZ to reach the final of the womens tournament

a very similar game to yesterdays semi
Clarkie66
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“Whats happened to Rashid. He looks like an old man now. All boyish looks gone.

And whats with all these beards. Kohli, Jadeja, Guptil, Stokes, Plunkett, Rashid, Sharma etc etc.

Thank god Root cant grow one yet”

Beards seem to be the fashion in sport at the moment including presenters like Gary Lineker and Mark Pugatch and I hope it passes soon. It doesn't seem to have reached Sunderland though - very few beards here!

I think India will be hoping to win the toss and bat second. I wonder if Rahane or a bowler will come in for Youvraj.
Bhaveshgor
31-03-2016
Run lines 182-188.
Even money point around 170.
Market giving india around 12-15 run advantage which is ridiculous.
think the even money point should be around 190.
Mitu_Pappi
31-03-2016
Rahane playing in home ground, with his fielding and batting is great for India. He keeps the board ticking. And can hit big sixes for a small man. Loving his inclusion.
Clarkie66
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“Rahane playing in home ground, with his fielding and batting is great for India. He keeps the board ticking. And can hit big sixes for a small man. Loving his inclusion.”

Me too and I was surprised that he wasn't played in any of the group matches. I think West Indies should be favourites but I'd like India to win. The atmosphere is always great when they are playing.
SULLA
31-03-2016
I excuse the keeper but not the fielder
misawa97
31-03-2016
Not a bad start here for the Windies.
bradybrady
31-03-2016
West Indies have been very poor in the field which surprises me

Think they may have let India get 20 too many
mimik1uk
31-03-2016
thats gonna be a tough chase for the WI
SULLA
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“thats gonna be a tough chase for the WI”

If West Indies win, Gayle will be due a failure in the final. If India win, Kohli must surely be due a failure
amar1286
31-03-2016
All depends on a certain chris Gayle now. If he bats all the way through you would expect West Indies to win.
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