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This guy is playing the most obvious spy in the history of world spying.
the soundtrack and the aesthetic are top notch. |
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This guy is playing the most obvious spy in the history of world spying.
So, what happened to the woman who overheard his phonecall. Did he really kill her? |
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True. Looking nervous and guilty all the time isn't the best cover.
So, what happened to the woman who overheard his phonecall. Did he really kill her? |
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True. Looking nervous and guilty all the time isn't the best cover.
So, what happened to the woman who overheard his phonecall. Did he really kill her? |
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True. Looking nervous and guilty all the time isn't the best cover.
So, what happened to the woman who overheard his phonecall. Did he really kill her?
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I suppose the nervous and shifty behavior is meant to show us his inexperience. Will we find out what happened to the woman or do we just assume he killed her?
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He is a terrible, terrible spy. It's quite endearing.
the soundtrack and the aesthetic are top notch. |
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True. Looking nervous and guilty all the time isn't the best cover.
So, what happened to the woman who overheard his phonecall. Did he really kill her? |
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This has been on Irish TV for some weeks now. I tried watching it but the German language put me off - far too gutteral for me. I watch French and Swedish/Danish subtitled shows no problem but this I just could not take.
My hubby watches it though and thinks its brilliant. There aren't any current Scandinavian dramas on BBC Four but this one looks set to be a good replacement. I take an interest in European history and if anyone's interested in that Cold War period and East Germany, then I really recommend Anna Funder's Stasiland (factual) and The Leipzig Affair by Fiona Rintoul (fiction). |
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I found this quite good, became attached to Moritz (as he's called) early on.
Yes he's a nervous spy, but I suppose this shows the realism of the situation, he's not going to act a pro when so inexperienced. The saving point for him is that he's young, so people around him may attribute his behaviour to being a young lad and be more inclined to overlook the jitters than say if he were an older serving man. Besides, he'll grow into the false identity sooner than he expects, I'm presuming, one, because he wants to do the job so he can get home, and two, if he doesn't succeed or tries to run again it would not end well for him. I also wonder the longer he stays in the west the more he'll think he doesn't dislike it, or the people, as much as he originally thinks. Will it be that, walk, eat and sleep with the enemy then fall in love with it at some point too. This will help with my Scandinavia withdrawals, plus that French one (on Friday) looks good too, it has Pierre from Spiral. |
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This was very good indeed. But I'm amazed at the moronic comments here about 'I won't watch because the language is glutteral' and "subtitles = flop". What stone have these people been living under these last 5 years? Danish and Swedish subtitled dramas have been hits here as I suspect this one will be.
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I Liked it, doesn't bother me with subtitles....
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Loved it.
Think the sub titles made it better not worse. |
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Thought it was brilliant. Delighted to have something to watch on Sunday nights for a bit.
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Was this set in a parallel universe where SS20 missiles didn't exist?
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No, you must have missed where the German general mentioned the Soviet Union's targeting of West Germany with SS 20 medium range nukes as a counter to the US placing Pershing and early Cruise intermediate range missile nukes in West Germany.
This series is excellent, always get the impression we are starved of some fantastic German dramas for the absurd reason that broadcasters here still view Germany through the prism of WWII. Reagan was a total whack job, wasn't he ? How did we all avoid a nuclear winter with his sabre rattling ? |
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No, you must have missed where the German general mentioned the Soviet Union's targeting of West Germany with SS 20 medium range nukes as a counter to the US placing Pershing and early Cruise intermediate range missile nukes in West Germany.
This series is excellent, always get the impression we are starved of some fantastic German dramas for the absurd reason that broadcasters here still view Germany through the prism of WWII. Reagan was a total whack job, wasn't he ? How did we all avoid a nuclear winter with his sabre rattling ? |
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It was only OK. Idiot lead character, who I assume will get better and he'll be amazing by the end and everyone will be rooting for him.
The soundtrack was hilarious. The year is in the title, we don't need it rammed down our throats. Will watch episode 2 but am not convinced I'll stick with it. |
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I never knew we came so close to nuking the Soviets.
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Just watched Episode 3 on RTE Player. Brilliant stuff.......the show is getting better and better with each episode (and the music on the soundtrack is fantastic)
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I'm sorry but the fact that this is German with English subtitles will unfortunately mean this will bomb.
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Das Boot was a success many years ago so I don't think it is that. Is it?
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This was very good indeed. But I'm amazed at the moronic comments here about 'I won't watch because the language is glutteral' and "subtitles = flop". What stone have these people been living under these last 5 years? Danish and Swedish subtitled dramas have been hits here as I suspect this one will be.
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Surely the fact that it is up against both the new series of Endeavour and the (possibly) epic War & Peace means it will bomb, at least in the overnights?
Personally I can't cope with subtitles on a Sunday evening but I will record it and give it a chance. ![]()
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No, you must have missed where the German general mentioned the Soviet Union's targeting of West Germany with SS 20 medium range nukes as a counter to the US placing Pershing and early Cruise intermediate range missile nukes in West Germany.
This series is excellent, always get the impression we are starved of some fantastic German dramas for the absurd reason that broadcasters here still view Germany through the prism of WWII. Reagan was a total whack job, wasn't he ? How did we all avoid a nuclear winter with his sabre rattling ? ![]() But he knew the Soviets were economically bankrupt, there's only so long a country that you can't buy instant coffee in can stay in an arms race, Reagan was a cannier president than he is given credit for by some. He was a complete loony, yet there's something about him I miss that I can never put my finger on. I really loved this, its a fascinating period of history. KInd of an Ashes to Ashes feel to it. With War and Peace on the Beeb and then D83 recorded to watch after that's Sunday's sorted for the next few weeks. |
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I found this quite good, became attached to Moritz (as he's called) early on.
Yes he's a nervous spy, but I suppose this shows the realism of the situation, he's not going to act a pro when so inexperienced. The saving point for him is that he's young, so people around him may attribute his behaviour to being a young lad and be more inclined to overlook the jitters than say if he were an older serving man. Besides, he'll grow into the false identity sooner than he expects, I'm presuming, one, because he wants to do the job so he can get home, and two, if he doesn't succeed or tries to run again it would not end well for him. I also wonder the longer he stays in the west the more he'll think he doesn't dislike it, or the people, as much as he originally thinks. Will it be that, walk, eat and sleep with the enemy then fall in love with it at some point too. This will help with my Scandinavia withdrawals, plus that French one (on Friday) looks good too, it has Pierre from Spiral. |
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Lol visited East Germany about this time while in Berlin and remember the German I spoke and heard. Plus worked for the American army and have passes in my passport to visit every Nato base.
Little note only last week on internet the US let out information on the targets selected during the Cold War . They included 119 targets in East Berlin for nuclear attack. !!!!!!!!!! But in that era the US had trouble recuiting for the US army after Vietnam and had reduced down the intelligence requirement to enter the army. I was told this by Americans while working in Germany for the US army that a general had got a driver who had been taking him to visit several bases told his driver to take him back to the base at Frankfurt they had been to the day before. The driver started reversing up the autobahn.!!!!! Little note of fact I know that at a RAF base in Germany when checking there stores on the nuclear weapons for the bomber found that one had gone missing.Its presumed stolen by the Russians. |
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