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DeltaBlues
06-01-2016
1. It's none of our business.
2. Only the people directly involved know how it happened, when it happened and how they're feeling. Speculation and projection is pointless and unhelpful.
3. In the absence of any unequivocal evidence to the contrary, it would be better to assume that all parties have acted with due thought and sensitivity to the other parties involved, taking into account that
4. It's still none of our business.
5. Using pejorative language about anyone involved says more about that poster than about the person they're discussing.
6. It's none of our business.
Nina_Blake
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“I said, as have others, that the "he's young and good looking so it doesn't matter" comments (try reading the last four words) comments are at best quite stupid and at worst displaying a complete lack of empathy.”

Sounds like a tenuous grasp at a counter-argument that you decided to roll with when your initial ones failed.
Lou_Black
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by DeltaBlues:
“1. It's none of our business.
2. Only the people directly involved know how it happened, when it happened and how they're feeling. Speculation and projection is pointless and unhelpful.
3. In the absence of any unequivocal evidence to the contrary, it would be better to assume that all parties have acted with due thought and sensitivity to the other parties involved, taking into account that
4. It's still none of our business.
5. Using pejorative language about anyone involved says more about that poster than about the person they're discussing.
6. It's none of our business.”


Can't disagree but if we stopped talking about things that were none of our business then the forum would be even quieter!
tuppencehapenny
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“Sounds like a tenuous grasp at a counter-argument that you decided to roll with when your initial ones failed.”

I think you are being very unfair to someone who has made their reasoned and reasonable position very clear throughout, Either that or you are deliberately misunderstanding.
lolly-licker
06-01-2016
I love Georgia, I love Giovanni, feel sorry for the boyfriend because she obviously must have had feelings for Gio on the show, but I'm sure everyone is ok good luck to them
hobbit
06-01-2016
I'm somewhat confused. Why is this any of our business? The show is over... they no longer have to consider the viewers because THE SHOW IS OVER.

They may be together, they may not. Either way, their business not ours or the papers.
Lou_Black
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“I think you are being very unfair to someone who has made their reasoned and reasonable position very clear throughout, Either that or you are deliberately misunderstanding.”

Much appreciated post. Thank you.
Shappy
07-01-2016
This thread wouldn't be even a fraction of the length it is if those who keep insisting it's none of our business didn't keep posting on it so repetitively. Why so much interest in a thread that is supposedly none of your business?
Lou_Black
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Shappy:
“This thread wouldn't be even a fraction of the length it is if those who keep insisting it's none of our business didn't keep posting on it so repetitively. Why so much interest in a thread that is supposedly none of your business?”


I've come to appreciate that the rule seems to be - if you think G and G getting together is the most wonderful thing to happen EVER (Sean who?) then it's absolutely fine to post about it.

If you don't agree with the above statement then it's absolutely none of anyone's business. The show is over. Stop talking about it. (Or something).
Ellie1967
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“I've come to appreciate that the rule seems to be - if you think G and G getting together is the most wonderful thing to happen EVER (Sean who?) then it's absolutely fine to post about it.

If you don't agree with the above statement then it's absolutely none of anyone's business. The show is over. Stop talking about it. (Or something).”

Yep And if you're saying something not 100% positive it's 'But why do you even CARE - you don't know them' but if you think they're such a cute couple and Sean will be fine 'Cos he's really good looking and they were both single anyway' it's ok to care about people you don't know.
BeeBumble
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“I've come to appreciate that the rule seems to be - if you think G and G getting together is the most wonderful thing to happen EVER (Sean who?) then it's absolutely fine to post about it.

If you don't agree with the above statement then it's absolutely none of anyone's business. The show is over. Stop talking about it. (Or something).”

I think the rule seems to be if you have nothing nice to say don't bother saying it.
Ellie1967
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“I think the rule seems to be if you have nothing nice to say don't bother saying it.”

As far as I know that is only a rule on the Appreciation threads. If the entire forum was one giant appreciation thread it would be pretty boring....and probably have a lot less comments.
Shappy
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“I think the rule seems to be if you have nothing nice to say don't bother saying it.”

Some of the comments made to try to silence forum members legitimately discussing news in the public domain haven't been very nice either.
Lou_Black
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“As far as I know that is only a rule on the Appreciation threads. If the entire forum was one giant appreciation thread it would be pretty boring....and probably have a lot less comments.”


It would be beyond tedious. And I thought there was a forum rule that threads - even the Appreciation ones - shouldn't be used to discuss a) other threads and b) other forum members?
BeeBumble
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“As far as I know that is only a rule on the Appreciation threads. If the entire forum was one giant appreciation thread it would be pretty boring....and probably have a lot less comments.”

There's a difference between not appreciating someone and calling them names.

Originally Posted by Shappy:
“Some of the comments made to try to silence forum members legitimately discussing news in the public domain haven't been very nice either.”

Silence? People have disagreed with your opinion and politely asked for a young woman not to be called names like 'slapper' because it's a sexist term.

Also I think asking why you care so much. Is a legitimate question. Why would you care so much about a situation you don't know, about a couple you don't know or like.
Lou_Black
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“There's a difference between not appreciating someone and calling them names.


Silence? People have disagreed with your opinion and politely asked for a young woman not to be called names like 'slapper' because it's a sexist term.

Also I think asking why you care so much. Is a legitimate question. Why would you care so much about a situation you don't know, about a couple you don't know or like.”


Of course it is unacceptable to call a woman (young, middle aged or old) a slapper. Most people on this forum have agreed to that. What I object to is being told elsethread that I shouldn't be discussing what is in the newspapers because it's none of my business. But it's perfectly okay to talk about it if it's to say how super wonderful it is that a couple have got together despite someone else being dumped.

Sounds like double standards to me.
BeeBumble
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Shappy:
“Some of the comments made to try to silence forum members legitimately discussing news in the public domain haven't been very nice either.”

Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Of course it is unacceptable to call a woman (young, middle aged or old) a slapper. Most people on this forum have agreed to that. What I object to is being told elsethread that I shouldn't be discussing what is in the newspapers because it's none of my business. But it's perfectly okay to talk about it if it's to say how super wonderful it is that a couple have got together despite someone else being dumped.

Sounds like double standards to me.”

I don't thinks it's not okay for you to discuss but then surely it's also okay to say we disagree with you on the subject and legitimately ask why you're so concerned about it anyway.
Ellie1967
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“There's a difference between not appreciating someone and calling them names.

Silence? People have disagreed with your opinion and politely asked for a young woman not to be called names like 'slapper' because it's a sexist term.

Also I think asking why you care so much. Is a legitimate question. Why would you care so much about a situation you don't know, about a couple you don't know or like.”

There were maybe a couple of posts on this thread calling Georgia names and hardly anyone condoned that. Other posters were merely discussing the situation and because they didn't totally condone their behaviour were told it was none of their business or they shouldn't care enough to post - which does seem to be trying to silence them, rather than just disagreeing with them. You care enough to come on here and defend them, yet I presume you don't know them or the truth of the situation either? If people were only allowed to post opinions on the forum about contestants/pros they know personally and know all the details of their lives it would die a death pretty quickly.
Lou_Black
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“I don't thinks it's not okay for you to discuss but then surely it'also okay to say we disagree with you on the subject and legitimately ask why you're so concerned about it anyway.”

Of course it is! But why not do it on this thread rather than complain on another thread and say people shouldn't be talking about G and G unless they are being complimentary? That smacks of trying to stifle other peoples' views to me. (Plus it is not a little sneaky).
BeeBumble
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Of course it is! But why not do it on this thread rather than complain on another thread and say people shouldn't be talking about G and G unless they are being complimentary? That smacks of trying to stifle other peoples' views to me. (Plus it is not a little sneaky).”

Well I think it's a little sneaky to be snooping in an appreciation thread just to use as ammo on the main forum.
Lou_Black
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“Well I think it's a little sneaky to be snooping in an appreciation thread just to use as ammo on the main forum.”

Good Lord, so reading a thread and not commenting is now snooping?!
BeeBumble
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Good Lord, so reading a thread and not commenting is now snooping?!”

No reading the thread to trip up other forum members on the main forum is.
Lou_Black
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“No reading the thread to trip up other forum members on the main forum is.”


"Tripping up"? What on earth does that mean?
nina99
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Of course it is unacceptable to call a woman (young, middle aged or old) a slapper. Most people on this forum have agreed to that. What I object to is being told elsethread that I shouldn't be discussing what is in the newspapers because it's none of my business. But it's perfectly okay to talk about it if it's to say how super wonderful it is that a couple have got together despite someone else being dumped.

Sounds like double standards to me.”

Oh dear, here we go again. The problem about discussing this whole matter is that we none of us know the details. All we know is that Georgia and Sean broke up and she is now, apparently with Giovanni and from the looks of the picture she posted is very happy. Why do you think that is such a terrible thing? Relationships end all the time and since we don't know why, how or when this one ended how can you or anyone comment on it or make assumptions with any authority? Going by other sources I think the situation is a lot more complex than it seems - but it is their own private business and until such time as one or other of them chooses to go public I think any further discussion is pointless. Especially when it just goes round and round in circles. The only reason this appeared in the newspapers was busybodies ringing up the Daily Mail to say that they had seen them at Disneyland, probably in the hope of a fee. Apart from that we know nothing.
Lou_Black
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by nina99:
“Oh dear, here we go again. The problem about discussing this whole matter is that we none of us know the details. All we know is that she and Sean broke up and she is now, apparently with Giovanni and from the looks of the picture she posted is very happy. Why do you think that is such a terrible thing? Relationships end all the time and since we don't know why, how or when this one ended how can you or anyone comment on it or make assumptions with any authority? Going by other sources I think the situation is a lot more complex than it seems - but it is their own private business and until such time as one or other of them chooses to go public I think any further discussion is pointless. Especially when it just goes round and round in circles. The only reason this appeared in the newspapers was busybodies ringing up the Daily Mail to say that they had seen them at Disneyland, probably in the hope of a fee. Apart from that we know nothing.”


Yes, agreed, this is going around and around in circles. You are right, we don't know know the details. But, why does not knowing the details mean it's okay to say "ahh, ain't love grand" etc but not "poor Sean"? I don't understand why the first is acceptable and the second isn't? As has been said before, the appreciation threads are for the "let's just be nice" (allegedly!!) posts.

As an aside, I stand by what I said a while ago - there's not a lot else to talk about now that Strictly has finished!
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