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G&G Are A Couple
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Ellie1967
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by nina99:
“Oh dear, here we go again. The problem about discussing this whole matter is that we none of us know the details. All we know is that Georgia and Sean broke up and she is now, apparently with Giovanni and from the looks of the picture she posted is very happy. Why do you think that is such a terrible thing? Relationships end all the time and since we don't know why, how or when this one ended how can you or anyone comment on it or make assumptions with any authority? Going by other sources I think the situation is a lot more complex than it seems - but it is their own private business and until such time as one or other of them chooses to go public I think any further discussion is pointless. Especially when it just goes round and round in circles. The only reason this appeared in the newspapers was busybodies ringing up the Daily Mail to say that they had seen them at Disneyland, probably in the hope of a fee. Apart from that we know nothing.”

The problem is that most of the things that get discussed on this board are things which we don't know the full story about. People's behaviour on the show, why someone performed badly, pros leaving, relationships between the pros etc. all get discussed on here even though none of us know all the details of what has happened in any given situation. It only becomes a problem for some people if they like the person involved and don't like to see them criticised.
Shappy
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“Silence? People have disagreed with your opinion and politely asked for a young woman not to be called names like 'slapper' because it's a sexist term. ”

Can you please quote the post where I have called her a slapper or even remotely suggested she is anything of the sort?

Of all the posts on this thread, I think one (at most two) called her an insulting name; that is no reason to start trying to shut down the whole discussion - just report that individual poster if it bothers you so much.

Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“Also I think asking why you care so much. Is a legitimate question. Why would you care so much about a situation you don't know, about a couple you don't know or like.”

Probably for the same reason any of us have signed up on this forum and choose to post on a Strictly discussion forum. I don't think a single forum member can honestly say they stick to just talking about the technicality of the dance! Especially the ATs go into great detail about behaviours of contestants - what gifts they've swapped, how long they might have worn things, what this might mean, analysing body language in minute detail. The obsession of the DS forum knows no bounds (and personally I think it's a bit of harmless fun so why not) - but to say it's okay to comment on that kind of stuff but not to discuss a new romantic relationship between two participants is rather contradictory.

Originally Posted by nina99:
“Oh dear, here we go again. The problem about discussing this whole matter is that we none of us know the details. All we know is that Georgia and Sean broke up and she is now, apparently with Giovanni and from the looks of the picture she posted is very happy. Why do you think that is such a terrible thing? Relationships end all the time and since we don't know why, how or when this one ended how can you or anyone comment on it or make assumptions with any authority? Going by other sources I think the situation is a lot more complex than it seems - but it is their own private business and until such time as one or other of them chooses to go public I think any further discussion is pointless. Especially when it just goes round and round in circles. The only reason this appeared in the newspapers was busybodies ringing up the Daily Mail to say that they had seen them at Disneyland, probably in the hope of a fee. Apart from that we know nothing.”

What other sources? Why are you consulting these sources if it's none of our business and tell us nothing reliable anyway?
DeltaBlues
07-01-2016
As someone who did make an "it's none of our business" post, can I just clarify that I'm neither a Georgia fan nor a detractor, since the perception seems to be growing that it's only Georgia fans taking that line.

I am not a fan of celeb relationship gossip regardless of who is involved, I never have been and I don't read tabloids or celeb magazines for that reason. I think there is a difference between discussing, even speculating about, what happens on the show - which those involved are doing as part of their job and so can anticipate that the stuff shown on TV on Saturday/Sunday nights and ITT is fair game for dissection - and raking over the end stages of one relationship and the beginnings of another, when we know nothing about the facts of either. I find that both prurient and pointless, and potentially hurtful to any or all of the people involved, depending on what is said and how it's put.
Sandy_Andrews
07-01-2016
So GG are a couple - so what ?

They have trained and danced together for months so they know each other pretty well by now, they have probably spent much more time together than Georgia has with Sean.
They have been quite circumspect about their relationship and kept off Social Media since the story broke.
If only they hadn't taken themselves off to Disney Paris we would be none the wiser - except that Georgia had removed references to her ex from her instagram, so we would guess they were no longer an item.

All that now needs to be said is that most of us wish GG well - they make a most lovely couple and all is fair in love and war and most importantly all's well that ends well.
Sandy_Andrews
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by DeltaBlues:
“As someone who did make an "it's none of our business" post, can I just clarify that I'm neither a Georgia fan nor a detractor, since the perception seems to be growing that it's only Georgia fans taking that line.

I am not a fan of celeb relationship gossip regardless of who is involved, I never have been and I don't read tabloids or celeb magazines for that reason. I think there is a difference between discussing, even speculating about, what happens on the show - which those involved are doing as part of their job and so can anticipate that the stuff shown on TV on Saturday/Sunday nights and ITT is fair game for dissection - and raking over the end stages of one relationship and the beginnings of another, when we know nothing about the facts of either. I find that both prurient and pointless, and potentially hurtful to any or all of the people involved, depending on what is said and how it's put.”

Very well said !
Shappy
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by DeltaBlues:
“As someone who did make an "it's none of our business" post, can I just clarify that I'm neither a Georgia fan nor a detractor, since the perception seems to be growing that it's only Georgia fans taking that line.

I am not a fan of celeb relationship gossip regardless of who is involved, I never have been and I don't read tabloids or celeb magazines for that reason. I think there is a difference between discussing, even speculating about, what happens on the show - which those involved are doing as part of their job and so can anticipate that the stuff shown on TV on Saturday/Sunday nights and ITT is fair game for dissection - and raking over the end stages of one relationship and the beginnings of another, when we know nothing about the facts of either. I find that both prurient and pointless, and potentially hurtful to any or all of the people involved, depending on what is said and how it's put.”

Why not just avoid the thread then, like you do with the celeb magazines? Must be easier than trying to control a whole industry and the way it reports and the people that choose to discuss it.

To correct another misconception, I was actually a GG fan during the show. I haven't followed them much (or anyone else) since the show ended as I don't know most of the celebs outside of SCD (I had never heard of Jay or Georgia but I liked their dancing).
Becky_B
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Shappy:
“Can you please quote the post where I have called her a slapper or even remotely suggested she is anything of the sort?

Of all the posts on this thread, I think one (at most two) called her an insulting name; that is no reason to start trying to shut down the whole discussion - just report that individual poster if it bothers you so much.”


Now this is completely disingenuous, there are few using outright offensive terms, but there are MANY containing insinuations which are extremely clear even if they don't outright use the words.

Quote:
“There's a name for women like her.”

There was an extremely unpleasant tone to many posts NOT "at most two". So don't try that you're overreacting line.
Shappy
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Becky_B:
“Now this is completely disingenuous, there are few using outright offensive terms, but there are MANY containing insinuations which are extremely clear even if they don't outright use the words.

There was an extremely unpleasant tone to many posts NOT "at most two". So don't try that you're overreacting line.”

I've seen lots of posts saying she's moved on very quickly and Sean might be hurt, but very few implying or stating Georgia is a slapper. The two things are very different.
Becky_B
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Shappy:
“I've seen lots of posts saying she's moved on very quickly and Sean might be hurt, but very, very few implying or stating Georgia is a slapper. The two things are very different.”

There's a quote right in my post, the implication is VERY clear,, but if you're ignoring them then there's nothing i can do. I'm not engaging with your strawman anymore.
Shappy
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Becky_B:
“There's a quote right in my post, the implication is VERY clear,, but if you're ignoring them then there's nothing i can do. I'm not engaging with your strawman anymore.”

Yes, there was one post quoted. You said "many".

Sometimes we can infer things from posts when we have too much emotion vested in the people who are being discussed.
MACTOWIN
07-01-2016
There are some very bitter posts on here. If you don't like Georgia why waste your day posting about her.
notdebbiedingle
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Yes, agreed, this is going around and around in circles. You are right, we don't know know the details. But, why does not knowing the details mean it's okay to say "ahh, ain't love grand" etc but not "poor Sean"? I don't understand why the first is acceptable and the second isn't? As has been said before, the appreciation threads are for the "let's just be nice" (allegedly!!) posts.

As an aside, I stand by what I said a while ago - there's not a lot else to talk about now that Strictly has finished!”

On almost every post I've made on the subject I have been sympathetic to Sean, he was obviously smitten & it's a shame it hasn't worked out for him!!
However this does not mean I think a young woman of 24 with her whole life ahead of her should be criticised in any way simply for changing her boyfriend of 8 months!!
She is at a lovely age for living life to the full & if that means breaking a few hearts along the way (possibly her own too on occasions) then so be it!! It's life, we've all been through it at that age & someone who is blessed like Georgia with looks & a sparkling personality should and I hope will make the most of it!! She most certainly should NOT(!!!!!!!!) be labelled a 'slapper' or any other such name for doing what comes naturally to a young woman her age!!! (Though I'm not blaming you for that, you understand, I realise you have not hurled insults as some have!!)
So in summary yes I am sorry for Sean but I am not going to pin any blame whatsoever on Georgia!!
Domestos
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Of course it is! But why not do it on this thread rather than complain on another thread and say people shouldn't be talking about G and G unless they are being complimentary? That smacks of trying to stifle other peoples' views to me. (Plus it is not a little sneaky).”

I've agreed with pretty much everything you have said and the very convenient 'it's nobodies business' schtick is rubbish. They court publicity when it suits so as long as no laws are being broken and they are not being harassed to high heaven, it's reasonable.
Domestos
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“"Tripping up"? What on earth does that mean?”

I think it means that you left them eggy faced and they don't like it?
BeeBumble
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“I think it means that you left them eggy faced and they don't like it?”

No. 'It means to deliberately try to catch someone out.'

No need to worry about egg on my face thanks.
Domestos
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“No. 'It means to deliberately try to catch someone out.'

No need to worry about egg on my face thanks.”

Not really, this is a message board with a search facility that is seemingly working today at least. If I found someone with interesting views I would happily see if they were a one off or not. It's not a crime or even noteworthy but you do seem a little upset by it. Don't be. It was a fair cop
BeeBumble
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“Not really, this is a message board with a search facility that is seemingly working today at least. If I found someone with interesting views I would happily see if they were a one off or not. It's not a crime or even noteworthy but you do seem a little upset by it. Don't be. It was a fair cop ”

The poster said I was being sneaky. I pointed out that it was an ironic thing to saying as they were looking in threads just to find something they could trip someone up with. They asked what tripping up meant.

What am I missing here.
Pretzel
07-01-2016
I'm glad that the search facility is working again, it's demise has been p*ssing me off for months. So thanks for the info, it's the best bit of information in this thread.

Also good luck to Georgia and Giovanni, I like the pair of them.
hannah
09-01-2016
Good luck to both Georgia & Giovanni not shocked at all if any of the couples got together it would have been these two but do feel sorry for Sean
Hildaonpluto
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by mia75:
“http://thesun.uk/6016BnH0n

Not really a surprise. She's quite desperate to make herself known.”

Straight after leaving Corrie she was all for hitting the red carpet at events and premieres and being splashed in the likes of the Daily Mail just for rolling up on the red carpet.
No acting roles since Corrie -a show her acting was crap in.

I basically have her pegged as a celebrity with a short shelf life rather than an actress.
Hildaonpluto
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“There are some very bitter posts on here. If you don't like Georgia why waste your day posting about her.”

Because this is a discussion forum which encompasses the ability to critique and is not a fanclub forum or appreciation thread.
BeeBumble
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Straight after leaving Corrie she was all for hitting the red carpet at events and premieres and being splashed in the likes of the Daily Mail just for rolling up on the red carpet.
No acting roles since Corrie -a show her acting was crap in.

I basically have her pegged as a celebrity with a short shelf life rather than an actress.”

Georgia doesn't write the Daily Mail articles about herself. And she only left corrie in March and since then has been doing Strictly. Even the best actors can go months or even years between roles.

But probably doesn't matter how much sense I try and make you'll probably try and find a way to be nasty and bitter about her.
Hildaonpluto
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“Georgia doesn't write the Daily Mail articles about herself. And she only left corrie in March and since then has been doing Strictly. Even the best actors can go months or even years between roles.

But probably doesn't matter how much sense I try and make you'll probably try and find a way to be nasty and bitter about her.”



No celebrity writes the newspaper articles about themselves that's a statement of the obvious but they do turn up at these events and have convient relationships with the paparazzi -a mutually beneficial relationship via their agents. These arrangements are well known and are not a secret. Some celebrities make a good living out of it.

I don't think she's a good actress, that doesn't make me nasty and bitter and by the way name calling and highly personal insults are against the terms and conditions.

I think the more mature career route was taken by Michelle Keegan who hasn't gone down the reality TV route despite plenty of offers I'm sure and has done a fair bit of acting work since leaving Corrie including work on a British film.

I stick to my original view that Georgia is more celebrity than decent actress. If that offends you to the point were you have to namecall and be rude then frankly I won't be losing sleep over it.

Oh and as a side note the best actors don't tend to go for years without roles because they can't get work but because their professional established enough and financially secure enough to be able to take a career break. People like Meryl Streep not people like Georgia.
BeeBumble
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“No celebrity writes the newspaper articles about themselves that's a statement of the obvious but they do turn up at these events and have convient relationships with the paparazzi -a mutually beneficial relationship via their agents. These arrangements are well known and are not a secret. Some celebrities make a good living out of it.

I don't think she's a good actress, that doesn't make me nasty and bitter and by the way name calling and highly personal insults are against the terms and conditions.

I think the more mature career route was taken by Michelle Keegan who hasn't gone down the reality TV route despite plenty of offers I'm sure and has done a fair bit of acting work since leaving Corrie including work on a British film.

I stick to my original view that Georgia is more celebrity than decent actress. If that offends you to the point were you have to namecall and be rude then frankly I won't be losing sleep over it.

Oh and as a side note the best actors don't tend to go for years without roles because they can't get work but because their professional established enough and financially secure enough to be able to take a career break. People like Meryl Streep not people like Georgia.”

I didn't call you names I said your attitude towards Georgia was bitter not you as a person.
Hildaonpluto
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“I didn't call you names I said your attitude towards Georgia was bitter not you as a person.”

You never mentioned the word attitude once.

You personally insulted me and you know it.

People and their attitudes cannot really be separated and disentangled in the clear cut way you imply anyway.

Not everyone has to rate the same actress, some people think Judi Dench is on overrated one trick pony, others like me think she's an acting God like Meryl Streep.

I think some ex soap stars from all the soaps are in danger of becoming celebrities rather than actors by the way I only mentioned Georgia because this thread connects to her.

We're going to have to agree to disagree -I've said what I wanted to say on this thread.
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