You really weren't being insulted!! The poster said 'You'll probably find a way to be nasty and bitter about her...', which speaks of behaviour rather than character. I suspect you've fallen into the gap the verb 'to be' seems to create between transitive (sense dependant on development) and intransitive (sense is self contained) usages
Easily done!

Are you a fellow linguist Dervla?

The post was about behaviour being directed by character otherwise who is the YOU finding a way to be nasty and bitter! 😁

There's no way saying you don't think someone is a good actor /actress is nasty.

I'm sure she's got lots of great qualities and I'm not really interested in judging her for her lovelife.

People can be an ardent fan of Georgia or whoever they wish but taking umbrage at people who don't think she's special and express it politely is a tad OTT.

I do think you are been a bit unfair on Georgia here!! I loathe celeb magazines etc but they are in your face in every supermarket etc & are full of the 'red carpet hoggers!'
Previous to Strictly I have never once seen Georgia's face with some banal banner heading on the front of these mags whereas barely a week goes by without the aforementioned Michelle Keegan's face appearing on the front cover of at least one!!




Georgia was never really given a chance to flex her acting muscles in Corrie as her character was never really used or given any decent s/l material & was tied to one of the most boring characters on the show for much of her time there!!
It was not her choice to leave but when her contract was not renewed, rather than whinge about it like some stars she was positive & talked about it opening new doors for her, good for her!!
You cannot possibly compare a young actress who has spent 4 years as little more than an extra in a soap to a world renowned star like Meryl Streep or Judi Dench !! She is just starting out in her career and, if she did Strictly on purpose to up her profile then again, good for her for grabbing an opportunity with both hands, working her butt off & really opening new doors in something she proved to be extremely good at!!

I don't know where her career will go from here but she at least has amazing opportunities now & that is down to her own hard work, nothing to do with red carpets, celeb culture or any other dubious route, just her own work!!

Going straight into a soap, and staying there for years, might give steady employment and some experience but does not give much chance for development as an actor.

Some will improve if they do other roles, Kara Tointon could have stayed knocking out several Eastenders episodes a week and not been considered much of a performer. Perhaps Georgia did not want to just go to another soap type of role and was prepared to wait?

I wasn't comparing her with Judi and Meryl. Read back. It was the other poster who compared Georgias situation with great actors who spend a long time out of work. I merely pointed out that great actors who spend a year or more not working normally do so because their established and can financially afford to not because they were waiting for or looking for work unsuccessfully. The inappropriate comparison was not iniated by me.

The game of going on reality TV shows for the purpose of raising your profile and opening new doors is a well known part of playing the celebrity game. So really backing up my point that she's more celebrity than actress.
Actors don't go on reality TV shows to boost their profile because casting directors don't cast acting parts on the basis of whether or not they've appeared on a reality TV show.

I doubt Kellie Bright went on Strictly thinking this will make casting directors want to give me more roles! 😁

Sorry, I was really het up last night after dealing with homophobes and sexists on the BB forum.

I still don't see how going 9 months between acting jobs is seen as a failure. That's quite a reasonable amount of time. I've never known any soap actor to go from one job to an other in quick succession and so what if Georgia went on Strictly? She got to learn a new skill, had some fun and got paid for it. I'd think she'd be silly to turn down such an opportunity. Strictly is seen as a different class of reality TV over Big Brother and I'm a celeb and certainly isn't an indicator that someone's career is over. Also why does it matter if she turns up to red carpet events maybe she just likes them?Should she be turning them down because other people don't want to see her in the Daily Mail?

Like VicsMum said Michelle Keegan is a bad example she went just as long without any acting roles and had a bigger role in Coronation Street, so you'd thought it'd been easier for her, and is always splashed in the glossy magazines. She also sold her wedding pictures to 'Hello' for goodness knows how much.

It just doesn't seem very nice to me to be wishing someone's career to 'have a short shelf life'.

Erm I wasn't wishing a short career on her I said I had her pegged as someone who'd have a short career as a celebrity -most celebrities have short careers. Only a few like Zsa Zsa Gabor can make a life's career almost, of decades as a personality/celebrity.!As someone who views her as an actress not celebrity you should be pleased at the prospect of a short career as just a celebrity rather than acting career.

The phrase pegging is not an expression of wish fulfillment or wishing something on someone. There are plenty of non famous careers anyway -most of us have to change careers during our working life often radically.

Ms Keegan was filming ordinary lies in 2014 after leaving Corrie in the summer of 2014 so no the length of times are not comparable.

Anyway I accept that your sorry and I'm appalled that you've had to deal with extensive homophobia and sexism on these forums. I have no truck especially as a gay man with that kind of behaviour. It can be very wearing listening to those kind of prejudices in the 21St century.

You adore Georgia, I don't see the fuss at all. We are only going to go around in circles. I think it's best we agree to disagree to be frank ☺

Can I just say .. That I think that most of the celebrities probably went or go on Strictly for the exposure, amongst other reasons. It's nothing new.

Yes, Kellie may well be very happy with Eastenders at the moment but not only has Strictly raised her profile but it's also shown that she may well be able to handle a different type of performance in future. I doubt Katie and Anita are considering stage roles, however again their success in the show will mean that they will definitely be offered more opportunities on screen or radio. Jay will be the most interesting one to watch, I confess I'd never heard of him before Strictly and now, well I still can't quite imagine what he's planning in career terms, but nevertheless I imagine that he wasn't averse to the increased publicity either, barring a couple of the 'stories'. They are all in the fame game, if they didn't want that kind of exposure they wouldn't go near the show or would end up regretting later like Jack Dee did after CBB.

As for the alleged romance which is the subject of this thread. I can't see that they've done anything wrong. Yes the brother/sister schtick wasn't truthful but then neither has been various other VTs of other dance couples in the past. I remember many where they said they were 'good friends' and you could see they could barely stand each other. They're not docudrama, they're little puff pieces and as a viewer you make of them what you will and I think that it was reasonably obvious that they didn't think of each other as siblings. Well, obvious to some.

The whole Brother/Sister thing I just see as an expression nowdays. It doesn't usually mean literally seeing someone as a sibling just a way to describe a platonic friendship. And many people who say that do genuinely mean it at the time but then feelings grow.It doesn't mean they were lying about their friendship being platonic before just that the situation has now changed.

No, I don't think that they were lying as such, perhaps just not being totally honest about their feelings, perhaps mostly to themselves.I do believe that it was platonic at that stage and they, and more likely the production decided that 'brother and sister' was the neatest way to describe that. In retrospect that's a little bit unfortunate, but no big deal.

Also, who is totally honest in those little VTs? Did Anton truly 'love' Anne?, are they all really scared in those stupid Halloween ones? Nope, they all play the game though. Except Gleb who resolutely refused to 'perform' except on his terms (another thing I love about him).

To be fair to Michelle (and believe me, that is a personal struggle at times) she personally hasn't gone down the RTV route as yet. I know that their wedding featured in one or other of the glossy mags but again, to be fair so did Peter Andre's - and Kevin and Karen's with Janette and Alijaz doing some sort of photo shoot as well. Keeping the Strictly theme Christine Bleakly was on the front cover of OK the other week in her wedding dress. Seems selling your wedding for the price of a sit down buffet isn't the big deal it once was.

What? Are you saying that Anton didn't love Ann? That Brendan and Lulu weren't good friends? Oh God, pass me the salts!

The Gleb does what The Gleb wants

I always like Michelle as an actor, even in the latter part of her stint in Corrie where she wasn't great. I do confess to being a bit disappointed in her hook up and subsequent marriage to Mark Wright, not because I don't think she's in love but it seemed such an odd choice at the time, but then again it's not my place to dictate who people fall in love with.

It is a bit disappointing that it appears to have changed her career direction though. I've only seen her in that BBC drama, which was reasonable and then nothing since. I'm not reader of celeb mags and as I can't really take to him I tend to avoid most of the news about them on the net. She does seem to have changed her look a bit, and again not for the better.

Anyway enough about Michelle, back OT, I wonder what Georgia will do after the tour. I never believed that the Hollywood bound rumours were true, I can't see her wanting to leave the UK for that long. She does seem keen to find stage work, so we'll see.

Michelle is going to star in a British movie I believe.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/m...-tramp-5992104

More on Michelle Keegan's film role.

I seem to think she's been filming a series/film that has the same title as a Smith's album

Edit - that's the one. Thank you
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I don't know anything about The Smiths sorry except that Morrisey is a vegetarian!

It looks like an excellent film, Danny Dyer would be so proud!

Thanks, looks interesting, I like British films, if they're done well. They more often than not don't make their mark at the box office or awards because Hollywood is seen as the be all and end all these days, and the US is where all the money is, but still are worth looking out for.

Danny has made some interesting ones himself.

My pleasure.

There was some great British films last year indeed over the years. Our country has some great collaborations of talent in film and arts.

Wow this thread is still going!

I don't watch soaps. I don't read Heat, Hello or any of those mags. I only watched Get me out of here when Vincent was on it and frankly, I never know who the hell the soapstars are.

Team GG was my favourite partnership on Strictly this time and I think they look like a cute couple together. But really, our claim on them is surely over with the show.? I'm sure their fans will naturally be keeping an eye out for sightings (did it myself with Kartem *blushes*) but I can't see why everyone else is even interested. If I don't like something I ignore it.

For what it's worth, I think Georgia "acted" her dances, and there are a lot of actors who prefer the stage to the tv/film genre. If that's her choice, good for her. And if she wants a funny, supportive and goodlooking italian to be with her while she tries that - good for her.

I agree. I don't even follow most of them on twitter. Although I noticed now that it has hilariously 'recommended' Gleb Savchenko, Jeremy Corbyn, and Jennifer Saunders! Dunno quite what it says about me but that's a hellavu dinner party- right there!

I liked Kara and Artem but didn't really follow them afterwards. I didn't even know they were still together when I read they'd broken up. I didn't even watch Strictly the following years, despite enjoying that series so much, not sure why now, perhaps I'm fickle.

I liked Georgia even more than Kara I think, and I've enjoyed this year and I really enjoyed Giovannis' and some of the other pros work so I'll give this year a go.

I suspect most of the fuss over this will die down, if the participants keep relatively quiet. Kristina may have inadvertently done them a favour. because she'll definitely be the tabloids fave for while now.

I have no idea why Kellie did Strictly, probably just because she wanted to, as shs was already in employment at Eastenders! I'm sure she had her own reasons!

As for Georgia she, through no fault of her own, had found herself at a Crossroads in her young life and, having been offered an opportunity to try something different, but still performance related on one of the most watched & loved shows on TV, sensibly decided to grab it with both hands!!
I don't see it as 'playing the celeb game' at all, I see it as a chance to enhance her acting career by adding a different aspect to it, whilst also 'putting herself on the radar' so to speak and, provided she was prepared to put in the work, to further her career prospects by improving her 'performance' level!!
On all of these aspects she succeeded without question!!

I certainly disagree with you that, having seen what she is capable of, she will now be reduced to just 'reality fodder' & celeb culture! For one thing, her absolute silence over what's happening with her relationship with Giovanni!! Your 'red carpet hoggers' would have made sure it was splashed over every trash mag on the planet!!
Unless I have judged her totally wrongly this is one young lady you won't be seeing eating kangaroo bo**ocks with Ant & Dec anytime soon!!

Not surprised they are together good luck to both of them but they didn't have half the chemistry as some of the couple's had. The curse has happened again sorry