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Kristina's pregnant
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End-Em-All
09-01-2016
I don't think anyone involved in this affair is coming across well. However, Ben and Kristina have said his marriage was over before they got together. Is there evidence this is not the case? Also, had Ben told his wife about the pregnancy beforehand, there is the risk she would have blabbered before the couple were ready to publicly announce it.

I wish at least one of the adults involved in this would think of the children.
amelia_lee
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Liza with a Zee:
“He's not divorced so it's a bit tasteless announcing it publicly before telling his wife and daughters privately. Ben is some piece of work. I'm sure Kristina will have her mother staying with them. I don't think there are many 38 year olds that get "pregnant" accidentally”

38 is not old to be having a child any more.
End-Em-All
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“38 is not old to be having a child any more.”

It's young to be a granny though.
Liza with a Zee
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“My Gran did.
I don't think my aunt ever got over the shock of her son being older than her brother”

I did say not many
Liza with a Zee
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“38 is not old to be having a child any more.”

Not too old at all to have a baby. Too old for it to be an "accident"
CravenHaven
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by End-Em-All:
“I don't think anyone involved in this affair is coming across well. However, Ben and Christina have said his marriage was over before they got together. Is there evidence this is not the case? Also, had Ben told his wife about the pregnancy beforehand, there is the risk she would have blabbered before the couple were ready to publicly announce it.”

wtf, someone with any practical sense. What do you think you are doing.
Given the amount of bleating the ex or relatives have done in order to wound the reputations of Ben or partner-encouraged by the press looking to perpetuate a narrative of course- I can say it is almost certain that ex would have used that information to wound them further.
Nothing in this strikes me as at all classy. K thinking it was an apt moment to settle down and miss Strictly out, and cash in by going into a reality program in the meantime without telling the program before signing the contract. Stealing her dancing partners, the cosmetic fillers, CBB...
:-/
Well, at least she's still got her looks.
BuddyBontheNet
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“They aren't divorced. Fact.

Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“Your guess is entirely wrong.

His wife, not 'ex-wife', clearly did not know about the pregnancy until the TV announcement, and your reading of the situation, besides its factual inaccuracy, seems to be based on nothing more than wishful thinking.”
”

Okay, they're not divorced yet.

But that's the only fact you can prove I got wrong. Abbey is not saying she didn't know. Even the DM isn't saying that. I think there's some wishful thinking going on, but it's not by me.
BuddyBontheNet
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by End-Em-All:
“I don't think anyone involved in this affair is coming across well. However, Ben and Kristina have said his marriage was over before they got together. Is there evidence this is not the case? Also, had Ben told his wife about the pregnancy beforehand, there is the risk she would have blabbered before the couple were ready to publicly announce it.

I wish at least one of the adults involved in this would think of the children.”

BIB Now this I agree with 100%.
debdaw
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by End-Em-All:
“I don't think anyone involved in this affair is coming across well. However, Ben and Christina have said his marriage was over before they got together. Is there evidence this is not the case? Also, had Ben told his wife about the pregnancy beforehand, there is the risk she would have blabbered before the couple were ready to publicly announce it.

I wish at least one of the adults involved in this would think of the children.”

A cynical person might think "they would say that, wouldn't they" in respect of B & K claiming that their relationship started after the Cohens had separated. In any event, Abby has publicly stated that her husband left her "for a Russian dancer" so it's a question of who do you want to believe.
End-Em-All
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by debdaw:
“A cynical person might think "they would say that, wouldn't they" in respect of B & K claiming that their relationship started after the Cohens had separated. In any event, Abby has publicly stated that her husband left her "for a Russian dancer" so it's a question of who do you want to believe.”

Whichever way you look at it, that is what happened.
tawny
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by tortoiseperson:
“Kristina said that she requested Daniel particularly so that people wouldn't start spreading rumours. They got on very well together.”

Well she would say that wouldn't she - we don't know whether it is true
JT Effect
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Liza with a Zee:
“Not too old at all to have a baby. Too old for it to be an "accident" ”

My mother had me at 38, and with 2 teenagers and a 9 year old already, I most definitely was 'an accident'.

Or 'a lovely surprise' as my mother often spun it
memmh
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by End-Em-All:
“I wish at least one of the adults involved in this would think of the children.”

Completely agree. I don't care about any of the adults -- they're all turning a bad situation into a horrendously nasty wreckage -- but I do feel very sorry for the kids, who should be protected from this mess.
lundavra
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by memmh:
“Completely agree. I don't care about any of the adults -- they're all turning a bad situation into a horrendously nasty wreckage -- but I do feel very sorry for the kids, who should be protected from this mess.”

They could be for all we know. They could be confused by Daddy no longer living with Mummy but could quickly adjust to a new glamorous second Mummy. Depends how the situation is handled.
BuddyBontheNet
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by End-Em-All:
“Whichever way you look at it, that is what happened.”

Except that he was going out with Big Brother finalist Sara McLean for three months after he left his wife.
Mrs BBV
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Except that he was going out with Big Brother finalist Sara McLean for three months after he left his wife.”

Which he denied on his Twitter account as Ms. McLean living in a fantasy world. If you don't mind me saying, for someone who abhors celebrity gossip, you do trade in it.
alan29
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“They could be for all we know. They could be confused by Daddy no longer living with Mummy but could quickly adjust to a new glamorous second Mummy. Depends how the situation is handled.”

My God!
How shallow is that!
And how dismissive of the feelings of children when their responsible adults decide to shatter their family.
Just unbelievable.
aggs
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by Mrs BBV:
“Which he denied on his Twitter account as Ms. McLean living in a fantasy world. If you don't mind me saying, for someone who abhors celebrity gossip, you do trade in it.”

But it was reported in the Mail - which must make it as true as much of the reporting about Kristina and Ben? Unless believing or not what is in the papers and believing or not the denials of the people involved is really just a smorgasbord where folk and pick and mix according to their own perceptions?
memmh
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“They could be for all we know. They could be confused by Daddy no longer living with Mummy but could quickly adjust to a new glamorous second Mummy. Depends how the situation is handled.”

The girls are old enough to go to school. That means they're going to hear about the media coverage, even if the parents try to keep it from them. Dealing with the break up of the marriage out of the media and away from social media would have been protecting the children. This? I'm not so sure. It's impossible to shelter them from it completely, now that it's already playing out in the media.


Originally Posted by alan29:
“My God!
How shallow is that!
And how dismissive of the feelings of children when their responsible adults decide to shatter their family.
Just unbelievable.”

Well said.
BuddyBontheNet
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by Mrs BBV:
“Which he denied on his Twitter account as Ms. McLean living in a fantasy world. If you don't mind me saying, for someone who abhors celebrity gossip, you do trade in it.”

I didn't know that and won't mention it again now, thanks. I don't abhor celeb gossip and don't remember saying I did, but then again I can't remember what I had for breakfast half the time. I do try to correct 'facts' the if I think they're wrong - and sometimes it's me who's wrong. It's a hard habit to break.
Mrs BBV
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“But it was reported in the Mail - which must make it as true as much of the reporting about Kristina and Ben? Unless believing or not what is in the papers and believing or not the denials of the people involved is really just a smorgasbord where folk and pick and mix according to their own perceptions?”

It was in the Mail, Mirror and The Sun. Ben scoffed it on his Twitter and 'sources' basically said of Ms McClean that she was as desperate as ever to try and prolong her 15 minutes of BB fame from about ten series ago.....make of that what you will but she has a reputation of being a bit of a fantasist / kiss & tell girl.

Like all the 'stories' and 'sources' you need to draw you own conclusions as there is his story, her story and probably the truth was the first casualty.
Mrs BBV
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I didn't know that and won't mention it again now, thanks. I don't abhor celeb gossip and don't remember saying I did, but then again I can't remember what I had for breakfast half the time. I do try to correct 'facts' the if I think they're wrong - and sometimes it's me who's wrong. It's a hard habit to break. ”

I do apologise, I did not mean to be rude I just thought I remembered you once saying that you tend not to believe anything in The Mail and find celebrity gossip just that......gossip.
cavalli
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by alan29:
“My God!
How shallow is that!
And how dismissive of the feelings of children when their responsible adults decide to shatter their family.
Just unbelievable.”

Yes, disgusting really.
lundavra
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by alan29:
“My God!
How shallow is that!
And how dismissive of the feelings of children when their responsible adults decide to shatter their family.
Just unbelievable.”

I was just writing that children can adjust to things if handled properly. There are two daughters age about 7 so they are quite possibly SCD fans. Plently pf children live happily with effectively two sets of parents and can love them both. It seems dismissive to suggest that childrencan only like their birth mother.
alan29
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“I was just writing that children can adjust to things if handled properly. There are two daughters age about 7 so they are quite possibly SCD fans. Plently pf children live happily with effectively two sets of parents and can love them both. It seems dismissive to suggest that childrencan only like their birth mother.”

Firstly there is life outside Planet Strictly.
Secondly why the hell should the children have to adjust to a destructive situation not of their making. Kids do adjust, they sadly have no option in those circumstances.
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