I do not care how old they are, but I am bored with you fancy her, do you fancy her, or he really likes you, do you like him, its like an infant playground, who actually cares, its been 3 full days, fgs.
Do the older big brother viewers forget they were the young viewers once
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The fact is this show used to bn liked amongst grannies and the like, despite the gross simplification that people are putting forward of earlier series. You don't get over 10 million viewers aiming for a thin demographic.
Now they are doing that, partly because demos have become much more important, and that you'd never get as much ratings as before, so they're streamlining, but there's no doubt it's a vastly different show now. I'm sure some people prefer it now, but there's clearly less of a mix in both shows nowadays.
Now they are doing that, partly because demos have become much more important, and that you'd never get as much ratings as before, so they're streamlining, but there's no doubt it's a vastly different show now. I'm sure some people prefer it now, but there's clearly less of a mix in both shows nowadays.
I've watched from the very first episode of series 1 and I can honestly say I've never liked the young, shallow and popular crowd. Going back to the hideous Lipgloss bitches, Saskia's idiotic little clique in BB6 and the awful "plastics" in BB7. I was a very young early twenty something then by the way, not all young people are like that and never have been.
As for having people from Geordie Shore etc in it, I appreciate that what we now class as a celebrity has changed a lot over the past couple if years but why do we have to have someone without fail in each season?
As for having people from Geordie Shore etc in it, I appreciate that what we now class as a celebrity has changed a lot over the past couple if years but why do we have to have someone without fail in each season?
I couldn't care less how old they are. It's just disappointing that young seems to be loud, crude and stupid. I noticed last night that ever conversation had someone asking "what does that mean?" Every time words of more than one syllable were used. The celebration of stupidity really makes me want to switch off. Likewise all the talk about their anatomies. I don't care about their boobs, balls or anything else. It was very telling that last night when David started one of his funny stories the cameras immediately turned to the tattooed one sat in bed droning about nothing. Likewise Angie's and Darren talking about something that had gone on in the house we were treated to more effing and jeffing from the bores in the bedroom. Maybe if production were a bit more mature there would be a better mix of what the viewers actually want to see.
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“I'm only 26 and i don't want to see Geordie Shore type people in there.
I don't care so much about the who goes in though. As long as they are good HM's then i can deal with it.”
“I'm only 26 and i don't want to see Geordie Shore type people in there.
I don't care so much about the who goes in though. As long as they are good HM's then i can deal with it.”
I'm 19 and I don't.
Just goes to show how different everyone's tastes are. I enjoy TOWIE, Geordie Shore and more recently Ex on the Beach so I like those additions to the house and I'm 30 years old.
I guess we have someone from towie/GS every year because where else do you get the "good looking younger housemates" from? Hollyoaks would be the other source. At the end of the day, CBB is treated as a platform for celebs whose work has all dried up or the wannabes (or both!) so you're unlikely to get a younger celebrity from anything other than hollyoaks or reality tv because they don't need that platform.
I guess we have someone from towie/GS every year because where else do you get the "good looking younger housemates" from? Hollyoaks would be the other source. At the end of the day, CBB is treated as a platform for celebs whose work has all dried up or the wannabes (or both!) so you're unlikely to get a younger celebrity from anything other than hollyoaks or reality tv because they don't need that platform.
Originally Posted by Stupid_Head:
“Thinking back to the classic BBs did Kate and Jade have brains in BB3? Kate was a major pisshead who only cared about alcohol and Jade was borderline retarded.”
“Thinking back to the classic BBs did Kate and Jade have brains in BB3? Kate was a major pisshead who only cared about alcohol and Jade was borderline retarded.”
Yes but that was car crash TV. We couldn't help watching, if only to snigger over yet another piece of Jadeism. Like her or loathe her, she had a personality. These Geordie and Chelsea programmes appear to be cast with charm-free morons
I don't care what age someone is or what show they are from. I thought Vicky and Ferne were great on IAC- yet all the Towie/Geordie Shore types they have had on CBB have been awful viewing.
Yeah it's the "type" of young housemate.
We have had great young ones on civilian BB on C5, so we cant stereotype all young people.
The likes of young reality people like James Hill, Luisa Zissman and Austin were much more interesting than other reality types like Kirk Norcross, Ricci and Lauren.
IAC scooped up the best of the current reality show stars with Vicky and Fearne. Sadly CBB get the worst of them. I think despite his history (but he has calmed down a lot), Gary from Geordie Shore would have been much better and be liked by a lot of viewers. He was extremely sleazy up until a couple of years ago, but he's matured a lot.
We have had great young ones on civilian BB on C5, so we cant stereotype all young people.
The likes of young reality people like James Hill, Luisa Zissman and Austin were much more interesting than other reality types like Kirk Norcross, Ricci and Lauren.
IAC scooped up the best of the current reality show stars with Vicky and Fearne. Sadly CBB get the worst of them. I think despite his history (but he has calmed down a lot), Gary from Geordie Shore would have been much better and be liked by a lot of viewers. He was extremely sleazy up until a couple of years ago, but he's matured a lot.
As an ex-teacher, I have seen thousands of these GS and Towie types, so I don't understand why they are considered interesting. They are ten-a-penny types and more or less interchangeable with each other.
Presumably they were just lucky to get their chance to appear in these shows.
On the other hand, I've also met thousands of interesting young individuals, with articulate reasoning skills, musical/artistic etc talent, selfless volunteering etc (I could go on)
So no, OP. It's not young people I dislike. (I couldn't have stuck out teaching if that was the case)
It's the fact that the illiterate, immature, arrogant, and entitled youth seem to be given such prominence.
Presumably they were just lucky to get their chance to appear in these shows.
On the other hand, I've also met thousands of interesting young individuals, with articulate reasoning skills, musical/artistic etc talent, selfless volunteering etc (I could go on)
So no, OP. It's not young people I dislike. (I couldn't have stuck out teaching if that was the case)
It's the fact that the illiterate, immature, arrogant, and entitled youth seem to be given such prominence.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“This is very very true.
As people get older, their tastes change. Pretty sure if there are people in their early 40s who were in their mid 20s back in BB1 had a different perception of what's entertaining than before.
I like both young and older hms. But I don't enjoy the showmances but people who are 16 may love it.”
“This is very very true.
As people get older, their tastes change. Pretty sure if there are people in their early 40s who were in their mid 20s back in BB1 had a different perception of what's entertaining than before.
I like both young and older hms. But I don't enjoy the showmances but people who are 16 may love it.”
If my tastes have changed then why do I think BB isn't very good compared to the first few series?
Isn't it a bit simplistic to pigeonhole people by speculating what young and older people like?
I think I like most things which I liked in my early 20s. I wouldn't say that my tastes have changed that much, not in any way which is linked to my age anyway. And I wouldn't say that BB is different now because there's something about it which is intrinsically linked to age. I'd imagine that the vast majority of younger people think it's as crap as many older people do.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“If my tastes have changed then why do I think BB isn't very good compared to the first few series?
Isn't it a bit simplistic to pigeonhole people by speculating what young and older people like?
I think I like most things which I liked in my early 20s. I wouldn't say that my tastes have changed that much, not in any way which is linked to my age anyway. And I wouldn't say that BB is different now because there's something about it which is intrinsically linked to age. I'd imagine that the vast majority of younger people think it's as crap as many older people do.”
“If my tastes have changed then why do I think BB isn't very good compared to the first few series?
Isn't it a bit simplistic to pigeonhole people by speculating what young and older people like?
I think I like most things which I liked in my early 20s. I wouldn't say that my tastes have changed that much, not in any way which is linked to my age anyway. And I wouldn't say that BB is different now because there's something about it which is intrinsically linked to age. I'd imagine that the vast majority of younger people think it's as crap as many older people do.”
Tastes in programmes I mean. Each show has a demographic. I used to like Geordie Shore when I was 18 now I don't. I also don't watch Hollyoaks either. That's what I meant. I don't watch certain shows anymore because I'm no longer part of the demo.
Some people like you may be different but BB demo has gotten a
Bit younger while we all get older. Give it 5 years and most of us won't watch it anymore but new 16 year old viewers will.
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“The thing is the ones they choose to appease the "young set" are just vulgar, loud and unentertaining.
I'm sure if most on here, as the OP said, want older people sitting around talking then surely there must be a call for it ?
I get fed up with the loud, vulgar, drunk young ones shouting and talking about shagging conquests etc and turn it to mute.
There are plenty of Young folk that haven't got these unappealing traits.”
“The thing is the ones they choose to appease the "young set" are just vulgar, loud and unentertaining.
I'm sure if most on here, as the OP said, want older people sitting around talking then surely there must be a call for it ?
I get fed up with the loud, vulgar, drunk young ones shouting and talking about shagging conquests etc and turn it to mute.
There are plenty of Young folk that haven't got these unappealing traits.”
I agree with this. I wasn't young when BB started but I've liked and championed many young housemates over the years. Age has nothing to do with whether you like someone or if you find them entertaining. There are plenty of lovely young people but I don't enjoy constantly hearing about sexual conquests and how big someone's private parts are. Why can't they find any young men who actually have some respect for women? or girls that have an opinion on something other than completely shallow values?
Originally Posted by ennui 57:
“As an ex-teacher, I have seen thousands of these GS and Towie types, so I don't understand why they are considered interesting. They are ten-a-penny types and more or less interchangeable with each other.
Presumably they were just lucky to get their chance to appear in these shows.
On the other hand, I've also met thousands of interesting young individuals, with articulate reasoning skills, musical/artistic etc talent, selfless volunteering etc (I could go on)
So no, OP. It's not young people I dislike. (I couldn't have stuck out teaching if that was the case)
It's the fact that the illiterate, immature, arrogant, and entitled youth seem to be given such prominence.”
“As an ex-teacher, I have seen thousands of these GS and Towie types, so I don't understand why they are considered interesting. They are ten-a-penny types and more or less interchangeable with each other.
Presumably they were just lucky to get their chance to appear in these shows.
On the other hand, I've also met thousands of interesting young individuals, with articulate reasoning skills, musical/artistic etc talent, selfless volunteering etc (I could go on)
So no, OP. It's not young people I dislike. (I couldn't have stuck out teaching if that was the case)
It's the fact that the illiterate, immature, arrogant, and entitled youth seem to be given such prominence.”
That's probably the reason why they get so much support.
Their fame appears attainable.
They have a "I could be him" aspect to their fame where anyone can imagine fame being possible if some idiot has become a celebrity for being little more than a 'personality'. Where before people tended more to be famous because of a talent.
It would also help to undermine the oldschool celebrities who were famous for their talent so you can contribute to bringing the standards down to make it easier for yourself.
Much easier than spending years trying to learn an ability if you think that you can attain even more fame by simply being some arsehole on the telly.
It's almost like The French or Russian Revolutions in media entertainment form. Bring down the old guard so that you can level the playing field and get a piece of the action for yourself.
We're currently living through the stage of 'The Reign of Terror' in the world of media entertainment.
Nothing to do with age, more that previously they put fairly interesting people in the house as opposed to today's vacuous bores.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Tastes in programmes I mean. Each show has a demographic. I used to like Geordie Shore when I was 18 now I don't. I also don't watch Hollyoaks either. That's what I meant. I don't watch certain shows anymore because I'm no longer part of the demo.
Some people like you may be different but BB demo has gotten a
Bit younger while we all get older. Give it 5 years and most of us won't watch it anymore but new 16 year old viewers will.”
“Tastes in programmes I mean. Each show has a demographic. I used to like Geordie Shore when I was 18 now I don't. I also don't watch Hollyoaks either. That's what I meant. I don't watch certain shows anymore because I'm no longer part of the demo.
Some people like you may be different but BB demo has gotten a
Bit younger while we all get older. Give it 5 years and most of us won't watch it anymore but new 16 year old viewers will.”
That's what I meant too.
F**k their spreadsheets and their highly paid social analyists, my age has very little to do with what I enjoy.
They seem to think it's a hard science where they can categorise people into pigeonholes based on their age, their income, the area they live, yaddah yaddah yaddah, but they don't seem to account for the fact that people are human beings with diverse tastes. My tastes cover a very broad range and I can enjoy something like an old black and white film which was made when my grandparents were alive equally as much as some action show about chopping zombies up into hamburger meat.
I don't care about their 'demos', I like what I like. All I care about is quality, and in that respect I can watch a very diverse range of television and films. If the quality isn't there then I simply don't watch television. Just because I'm a certain age doesn't mean that I probably watch The X Factor, or Springwatch, or some anime film, or a romcom. And I think that there may be a majority just like me going by how many people watch television shows in general.
It's quite possible that it's the tendency of trying to monitor viewing habits like it's a fine science which has been the very downfall of television itself. Because they may find themselves trying in vain to tailor TV programmes to suit an audience which simply doesn't exist, or is minimal at best.
Take any TV show. The X Factor for instance. It may get 7 million viewers made up of various ratios of viewer demographics. Which means that 54 million don't watch it. Their attempts to capture audience demographics are pitiful to say the least. The vast majority of people don't reflect what their statisticians say we want to watch. If they did then more people would watch TV shows in the manner in which they insist we do.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“That's probably the reason why they get so much support.
Their fame appears attainable.
They have a "I could be him" aspect to their fame where anyone can imagine fame being possible if some idiot has become a celebrity for being little more than a 'personality'. Where before people tended more to be famous because of a talent.
It would also help to undermine the oldschool celebrities who were famous for their talent so you can contribute to bringing the standards down to make it easier for yourself.
Much easier than spending years trying to learn an ability if you think that you can attain even more fame by simply being some arsehole on the telly.
It's almost like The French or Russian Revolutions in media entertainment form. Bring down the old guard so that you can level the playing field and get a piece of the action for yourself.
We're currently living through the stage of 'The Reign of Terror' in the world of media entertainment.”
“That's probably the reason why they get so much support.
Their fame appears attainable.
They have a "I could be him" aspect to their fame where anyone can imagine fame being possible if some idiot has become a celebrity for being little more than a 'personality'. Where before people tended more to be famous because of a talent.
It would also help to undermine the oldschool celebrities who were famous for their talent so you can contribute to bringing the standards down to make it easier for yourself.
Much easier than spending years trying to learn an ability if you think that you can attain even more fame by simply being some arsehole on the telly.
It's almost like The French or Russian Revolutions in media entertainment form. Bring down the old guard so that you can level the playing field and get a piece of the action for yourself.
We're currently living through the stage of 'The Reign of Terror' in the world of media entertainment.
”
Thats in a nut shell the Vicky Pattison and Charlotte Crosby of the worlds they are normal girls who got lucky .
Normal girls seem them as having an obtainable lifestyle that's why they are hugely popular with young female and they would win every reality show going.
That's why you have a slightly younger level now with the likes of Megan who will have these people as their idols and younger again will want the Megan lifestyle.
It's a better lifestyle than working for seven quid although I appreciate it doesn't make it right
Originally Posted by floozie_21:
“Just goes to show how different everyone's tastes are. I enjoy TOWIE, Geordie Shore and more recently Ex on the Beach so I like those additions to the house and I'm 30 years old.
I guess we have someone from towie/GS every year because where else do you get the "good looking younger housemates" from? Hollyoaks would be the other source. At the end of the day, CBB is treated as a platform for celebs whose work has all dried up or the wannabes (or both!) so you're unlikely to get a younger celebrity from anything other than hollyoaks or reality tv because they don't need that platform.”
“Just goes to show how different everyone's tastes are. I enjoy TOWIE, Geordie Shore and more recently Ex on the Beach so I like those additions to the house and I'm 30 years old.
I guess we have someone from towie/GS every year because where else do you get the "good looking younger housemates" from? Hollyoaks would be the other source. At the end of the day, CBB is treated as a platform for celebs whose work has all dried up or the wannabes (or both!) so you're unlikely to get a younger celebrity from anything other than hollyoaks or reality tv because they don't need that platform.”
Unless the can persuade jaqueline jossa Lauren from eastenders to do it while she is in and out of eastenders
Alrightmate (Quote)
''It's almost like The French or Russian Revolutions in media entertainment form. Bring down the old guard so that you can level the playing field and get a piece of the action for yourself.
We're currently living through the stage of 'The Reign of Terror' in the world of media entertainment.'' End quote.
That's a very good analogy!
And I see what you mean about having such low ''bench-marks'' for ''fame'' would make it far easier for an average Joe/Joanne to aspire to such.
And they do, sadly.
''It's almost like The French or Russian Revolutions in media entertainment form. Bring down the old guard so that you can level the playing field and get a piece of the action for yourself.
We're currently living through the stage of 'The Reign of Terror' in the world of media entertainment.'' End quote.
That's a very good analogy!
And I see what you mean about having such low ''bench-marks'' for ''fame'' would make it far easier for an average Joe/Joanne to aspire to such.
And they do, sadly.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“This is very very true.
As people get older, their tastes change. Pretty sure if there are people in their early 40s who were in their mid 20s back in BB1 had a different perception of what's entertaining than before.
I like both young and older hms. But I don't enjoy the showmances but people who are 16 may love it.”
“This is very very true.
As people get older, their tastes change. Pretty sure if there are people in their early 40s who were in their mid 20s back in BB1 had a different perception of what's entertaining than before.
I like both young and older hms. But I don't enjoy the showmances but people who are 16 may love it.”
I was 18 when big brother started but my favourite housemates by and large have always been the older housemates
I have watched from the beginning, I normally like a mix of ages it's more about personality than age for me, I don't watch Towie, Geordie Shore etc I usually like the younger celebs, Charlotte for example or Vicky and Fearne in the jungle but not this group they just seem to have no personality and act stupid especially Scotty and Jeremy.
I couldn't care less about the age of house mates but the quality of them. I like charming, bright, witty, entertaining people who have a variety of interests and topics to discuss. The likes of the Geordie Shore and Towie types are a bunch of thick, loud, gobby chavs who pride themselves on their ignorance and loutish behaviour. They are everything I despise, I find them an intense bore and I couldn't care less if they're 18 or 80. Their age is irrelevant to me. They're the chav culture for the dumb that sadly seem to be championed and emulated by too many equally dumb people. It's a shame that CBB and BB has to have these types of imbeciles in every single series!
I've watched BB from the very beginning and the younger HM's in the first bunch of shows were nothing like the chavs and morons we get these days.
Plus the average age of the HM's used to be a bit older than we get nower days...all we get now is constant talk about sex and "do you fancy her, I fancy him" crap.
Plus the average age of the HM's used to be a bit older than we get nower days...all we get now is constant talk about sex and "do you fancy her, I fancy him" crap.
I'm just appalled by how utterly thick the youngsters seem to be these days. So far they've had to ask what 'decisive' and 'monogamous' mean. I think it's what Jade would have wanted though.
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