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Old 08-01-2016, 17:45
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http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-...-top-3__13450/

Wow we have seen something, congrats Bieber!
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Old 08-01-2016, 17:51
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Well la de da.

Since the charts are dominated by 14 year old girls buying music its no surprise really.
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Old 08-01-2016, 17:59
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Well la de da.

Since the charts are dominated by 14 year old girls buying music its no surprise really.
It'll be more down to 14 year old girls streaming his whiney crap 12 hours every day that'll be the case, not downloading as much.. as their pocket money won't allow it.
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Old 08-01-2016, 18:04
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Singles are more about marketing than quality of product. Find the market that's easiest to brainwash and exploit... job done.
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Old 08-01-2016, 18:12
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Well la de da.

Since the charts are dominated by 14 year old girls buying music its no surprise really.
Exactly.

I listen to an absolutely huge amount of music, both new and old releases, and I think the last single I bought was in 2008 (Metallica's 'The Day That Never Comes'). There's just no point in it anymore.
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Old 08-01-2016, 18:20
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There's a lot of sniffiness in this thread (by people claiming they aren't interested in the chart but still take the time to not only open a thread about the charts but also to actually write a response. Bizarre). Look, he's not exactly my cup of tea (I mean, at all) but this IS an amazing feat. And why would it matter if only 14 year old girls buy it? Don't they count or summat? A record buyer is a record buyer surely? Especially in these awful times for the music industry (unless you happen to be adele, of course).
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Old 08-01-2016, 18:22
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Having had 9 singles in the top 40 in December, this is just crazy. He's not my cup of tea but it's an impressive achievement
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Old 08-01-2016, 18:48
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As much as his music is ok it just goes to show the charts these days are not relevant. Just dominated by people watching the same video time and time again rather than on actual sales.
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Old 08-01-2016, 18:59
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Streaming is ****ing up the chart . IMO
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Old 08-01-2016, 20:05
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Having had 9 singles in the top 40 in December, this is just crazy. He's not my cup of tea but it's an impressive achievement
I see this type of comment all the time but I've never understood why I'm supposed to be impressed by popularity. Should I also be impressed by The Sun because it's the biggest selling newspaper?

Also, it probably would have been more impressive years ago but in today's climate with digital downloads and streaming it doesn't seem that surprising to me. I would expect to see this happening even more in future (many songs from the most popular artists in the chart at the same time).

It's more surprising to me that people think the singles chart is still relevant when most people don't take much notice of it anymore.
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Old 08-01-2016, 20:11
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Old 08-01-2016, 20:15
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I think it's worth noting he's #1 and #2 on the Sales Chart anyway, streaming has only affected the #3 position. Well done to him, he's doing well.
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Old 08-01-2016, 20:38
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I don't like his music but good for him for damning the critics who had him down as a classic case of child star gone bad.
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Old 08-01-2016, 20:41
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It's been an incredible comeback for him to be fair. He was seemingly heading for oblivion not that long ago. Credit where credit is due and all that.
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Old 08-01-2016, 20:42
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I wish people could stop dismissing what 'teenage girls' like. Teenage girls are people too. It's just possible as well that the #1 #2 and #3 selling singles in the country are having some crossover success beyond that 'teenage girl' base as well, isn't it?

Face it, just because you personally don't like what's ruling the charts at the minute doesn't reflect on the quality of it. You could apply the same arguments to the Spice Girls' run in the 90s or the Birdy Song back in the day.

Bieber's music is popular. He's got a sound that is clearly popular right now whether that's down to the producers, the songwriters, or him (probably a mix of the three). You don't have to keep grumbling about it and griping at particular groups of people's *choice* to buy his music, which is ultimately why he is selling well.
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Old 08-01-2016, 20:44
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Hear hear. Some right curmudgeonly music snobs on here. Pathetic, really.
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Old 08-01-2016, 20:58
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I wish people could stop dismissing what 'teenage girls' like. Teenage girls are people too. It's just possible as well that the #1 #2 and #3 selling singles in the country are having some crossover success beyond that 'teenage girl' base as well, isn't it?

Face it, just because you personally don't like what's ruling the charts at the minute doesn't reflect on the quality of it. You could apply the same arguments to the Spice Girls' run in the 90s or the Birdy Song back in the day.

Bieber's music is popular. He's got a sound that is clearly popular right now whether that's down to the producers, the songwriters, or him (probably a mix of the three). You don't have to keep grumbling about it and griping at particular groups of people's *choice* to buy his music, which is ultimately why he is selling well.
Well said!

I don't like Beiber and am amazed (and quite saddened) that he's made such a big comeback after behaving so badly... but this is a great achievement! And teen girls have probably always been a big chunk of the singles buying market surely. Let's face it, young girls screamed like mad at The Beatles in the 1960 because they fancied them, but it doesn't mean all the records they broke were meaningless.
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Old 08-01-2016, 21:09
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Streaming is ****ing up the chart . IMO
It's not if you believe that the purpose of the chart is to find out what the most popular songs are with the British public on a weekly basis, as streaming is the way that most of the British public listens to music on a weekly basis.

However, I don't believe that chart feats achieved in the streaming era should even for one moment be compared with feats achieved in the days of sales only purely because the parameters of both are so different.

Compare the situation now with Bieber to the last time that someone had such a stranglehold on the top end of the singles chart, namely John Lennon in 1981.

To add a unit onto Bieber's tally, someone just had to play one of his songs on a streaming service for free when they're at home or on the move, whereas someone wanting a Lennon unit had to physically go to a record shop and pay money for a single to register one.

As for the sheer number of hits, all of Bieber's tracks on his latest album are split up on streaming services and therefore get registered as individual singles, whereas the only hits Lennon had were those which were released as individual singles; someone wanting all of them would've had to buy his album which would have obviously counted towards the album chart.

Furthermore, the number of singles Lennon could sell was dictated by the number that could be physically obtained and stocked by individual record stores, which is obviously not a problem in today's digital music world.

All of those reasons - and there are probably more - makes me think that Bieber's achievement is rather more obtainable through the current method of consuming music and therefore less outstanding than that which John Lennon achieved some 35 years ago - and at the very least both should be put in separate categories.
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Old 08-01-2016, 21:10
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I wish people could stop dismissing what 'teenage girls' like. Teenage girls are people too. It's just possible as well that the #1 #2 and #3 selling singles in the country are having some crossover success beyond that 'teenage girl' base as well, isn't it?

Face it, just because you personally don't like what's ruling the charts at the minute doesn't reflect on the quality of it. You could apply the same arguments to the Spice Girls' run in the 90s or the Birdy Song back in the day.

Bieber's music is popular. He's got a sound that is clearly popular right now whether that's down to the producers, the songwriters, or him (probably a mix of the three). You don't have to keep grumbling about it and griping at particular groups of people's *choice* to buy his music, which is ultimately why he is selling well.
Well no you can't compare actually. The Spice Girls would have had to have had singles to buy to make the single charts. Not have every track off their album making the chart. This is the point that many don't get. We had it in another thread a few weeks back. Nonsense that Bieber must be more popular than The Beatles or Elvis Presley were because they never achieved this. Not understanding how the singles charts worked until a few years ago. The charts of today cannot not be compared to the proper singles chart we had in the past.
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Old 08-01-2016, 21:25
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I miss the days of a different number 1 every week
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Old 08-01-2016, 21:26
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It's not if you believe that the purpose of the chart is to find out what the most popular songs are with the British public on a weekly basis, as streaming is the way that most of the British public listens to music on a weekly basis.

However, I don't believe that chart feats achieved in the streaming era should even for one moment be compared with feats achieved in the days of sales only purely because the parameters of both are so different.

Compare the situation now with Bieber to the last time that someone had such a stranglehold on the top end of the singles chart, namely John Lennon in 1981.

To add a unit onto Bieber's tally, someone just had to play one of his songs on a streaming service for free when they're at home or on the move, whereas someone wanting a Lennon unit had to physically go to a record shop and pay money for a single to register one.

As for the sheer number of hits, all of Bieber's tracks on his latest album are split up on streaming services and therefore get registered as individual singles, whereas the only hits Lennon had were those which were released as individual singles; someone wanting all of them would've had to buy his album which would have obviously counted towards the album chart.

Furthermore, the number of singles Lennon could sell was dictated by the number that could be physically obtained and stocked by individual record stores, which is obviously not a problem in today's digital music world.

All of those reasons - and there are probably more - makes me think that Bieber's achievement is rather more obtainable through the current method of consuming music and therefore less outstanding than that which John Lennon achieved some 35 years ago - and at the very least both should be put in separate categories.
In the period I followed the charts from the late 70's to late 90's I only remember twice an artist having more than 2 songs in the Top 40. John Lennon has you have already mentioned and Madonna had 3 songs in the Top 40 in 1985. It can't be compared to now has you have already said because an artist had to have a single available to buy to qualify.
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Old 09-01-2016, 10:00
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There are a few more things to notice about the chart apart from Bieber's 1-2-3 comeback.

Well, how often have Canadians held the top four positions in the uk singles charts? Better still, four Canadian artists (Beiber, Mendes, Drake, The Weeknd) in the top 20 and no US artists in the top 30 apart from features. An Australian girl (Grace) at no 6 with a Lesley Gore cover from 1963.

Many of the artists are DJ/Producers who started making music in their bedrooms by cutting up/remixing older materials into new product. These artists are exclusively male and a couple seem to be of immigrant descent (MNEK, Stormzy).

Three British female solo artists (Adele, Jess Glynne, Fleur East), One boy band (1D) rather over represented probably because of their impending career break, one girl group (Little Mix) with a 60s rework. A British rock band (Coldplay) whose muisc continues to lighten up, a metal band (Motörhead) only there because of the passing of Lemmy. The most street sound would be WSTRN.

You would have to say the charts of today have little by the way of traditional genres like rock, soul, reggae but the modern pop sound is well produced and makes straight and enhanced copies of the past. It is pastiche music.

For those who dismiss the charts out of hand they do tell us quite a lot about the development of modern pop music culture.
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Old 09-01-2016, 10:12
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As I've posted elsewhere, Justin Bieber's success has stemmed from Spotify mainly. Yes, he had all 3 singles in the iTunes top 10 all last week but What Do You Mean? was languishing around #10.

What this indicates is an increase in Spotify users. More and more people are signing up to streaming services, but then all these new users just seem to be playing the same songs as everyone else.

I don't believe for a second that What Do You Mean? has suddenly found a new wave of popularity to return to the UK top 3. It's just more people have joined Spotify and are streaming the song because they already like the song.

What is most telling is that Music Week have reported that What Do You Mean? is now a million selling single, but it's actual paid for sales (bought on iTunes) only stands at around 418k so hardly a million "selling" single. The other 582k is purely from streaming "sales", and Sorry is about to become a million seller too but again I don't even think that has sold 500k yet in paid for downloads. We're embarking on a new era of the artificial million seller rendering the whole concept of the million selling single redundant.

Like I posted in another thread, if Justin Bieber released three brand new singles on the same day and they ended up entering the UK chart at #1, #2 and #3 then I will consider it an achievement.

Love Yourself, Sorry and What Do You Mean? are inescapable if you listen to commercial radio or watch the music channels. So it's no wonder Justin Bieber has done the hat trick of the UK chart world. People are just streaming the songs they hear on radio, or see on music channels.
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Old 09-01-2016, 10:40
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Good for him, it's an impressive achievement even if I do think the songs are shite!
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Old 09-01-2016, 10:42
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Don't underestimate the amount of young males that have been swayed by Bieber's new music. I know plenty of guys around 18-22 who have all admitted that they love Bieber's new sound, myself included. It's not just the teenage girls.
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