Big Brother producers seem to making it more than it actually is as usual IMO I mean yeah he's been a bit sleazy but he ain't done anything THAT bad .
Am I the only one that doesn't think Winston has been that bad ??!
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I think he's been wronged by BB and Nancy.
Fair play to Stephanie and the rest for showing him support.
Fair play to Stephanie and the rest for showing him support.
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“He's done nothing wrong. It's weird political correctness gone mad.”
“He's done nothing wrong. It's weird political correctness gone mad.”
Nonsense. he's been a sleazy pervert and a homophobic t**t
No I don't get it either it just seems like people are looking for someone to hate and be the Villian .
Anybody that blames political correctness for people hating Winston is missing the point. There is nothing redeemable about the guy whatsoever. He's not entertaining, his comments about Tiffany and Nancy are rude and his views on gay people are archaic.
It's not about political correctness. He really is just an awful HM.
It's not about political correctness. He really is just an awful HM.
How do you know what he's done to say he's been treated unfairly? No-one knows as very little is shown. Nancy complained about a time (all the previous night) where he was staring at her in bed. I would definitely feel uneasy if a sleazy guy was doing that to me.
He seems like the type of person who doesn't care if you're gay but doesn't agree with it because of his Christian background. He's quite nice abit sleezy but I wish people just told him about himself. But if Jim Davidson could win I don't see why Winston can't
I think he's a ****, but nowhere near the scale that its been blown up into.
I am far more offended and nauseated by the housemates (and people on social media) embarking a self righteous crusade to prove they are more offended by him than anyone else!
I am far more offended and nauseated by the housemates (and people on social media) embarking a self righteous crusade to prove they are more offended by him than anyone else!
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“He's done nothing wrong. It's weird political correctness gone mad.”
“He's done nothing wrong. It's weird political correctness gone mad.”
Political Correctness. You mean the thing that allows people live there lives in peace. The concept that people shoud be able to have the same opportunities as everyone else. The idea that no one should made to feel uncomfortable about things they cannot control. Yes how 'mad'.
Some of the comments make me so sad.
Empty vessels make the most noise, and these days that noise sounds like "PC gawnnn mad!11!!" What a pointless statement. What some are calling political correctness others would call basic human decency and manners.
It appears to the fashion to be outraged. People trying to see who could be the most outraged. I don't like him but the OTT reaction of some is pathetic imo.
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“I think he's a ****, but nowhere near the scale that its been blown up into.
I am far more offended and nauseated by the housemates (and people on social media) embarking a self righteous crusade to prove they are more offended by him than anyone else!”
“I think he's a ****, but nowhere near the scale that its been blown up into.
I am far more offended and nauseated by the housemates (and people on social media) embarking a self righteous crusade to prove they are more offended by him than anyone else!”
Most of them didnt set much of an example on how to be accepting and tolerant, did they?
Originally Posted by PinkPrincess01:
“He seems like the type of person who doesn't care if you're gay but doesn't agree with it because of his Christian background. He's quite nice abit sleezy but I wish people just told him about himself. But if Jim Davidson could win I don't see why Winston can't”
“He seems like the type of person who doesn't care if you're gay but doesn't agree with it because of his Christian background. He's quite nice abit sleezy but I wish people just told him about himself. But if Jim Davidson could win I don't see why Winston can't”
Good point.
Not really no.
I don't agree with his views, but he seems to have been nice to other people.
As for the comments about gay parenting, which were made before he went into the BB house, anyone remember the story in the news early last year when the clothes designers Dolce and Gabbana, who are both gay, spoke of being against same sex parenting as well and Elton John went into a tirade about it?
There are many gay people who are against Gay marriage believe it or not, so it doesn't seem that much of a stretch for some people to be skeptical against same sex parenting.
These are opinions. It doesn't necessarily make somebody homophobic and full of hate.
However Winston hasn't really helped himself with the some of the opinions he has expressed in the house. It would give his competitors in there plenty of ammunition to use against him and this show just isn't going to exactly be on his side and is going to show them to viewers.
It was interesting to see how Angie reacted in the garden. That to me looked like somebody full of hatred.
I don't think that there is any evidence that same sex parenting has been harmful to the children involved in this relatively short period of time, so I suppose to decide that it definitely is does suggest an element of homophobia. To say that it is akin to child abuse is bound to cause fireworks. No doubt he would have intended to be controversial when he said that, which I must repeat was said before he went into the BB house, and BB evidently knew about it, hence the question in the task.
But I think Winston was a very easy target who BB always intended to get rid of in week 1.
I don't share his feelings and I suppose I take the stance of John Partridge more than I do Angie, who is another one of these campaigners for gay rights speaking on behalf of gay people and overcompensating.
It's easy to condemn somebody for being homophobic, and in Winston's case there is enough to make you think that he probably is, but equally it can look worse when the people doing the condemning display even more bitter hatred.
I don't agree with his views, but he seems to have been nice to other people.
As for the comments about gay parenting, which were made before he went into the BB house, anyone remember the story in the news early last year when the clothes designers Dolce and Gabbana, who are both gay, spoke of being against same sex parenting as well and Elton John went into a tirade about it?
There are many gay people who are against Gay marriage believe it or not, so it doesn't seem that much of a stretch for some people to be skeptical against same sex parenting.
These are opinions. It doesn't necessarily make somebody homophobic and full of hate.
However Winston hasn't really helped himself with the some of the opinions he has expressed in the house. It would give his competitors in there plenty of ammunition to use against him and this show just isn't going to exactly be on his side and is going to show them to viewers.
It was interesting to see how Angie reacted in the garden. That to me looked like somebody full of hatred.
I don't think that there is any evidence that same sex parenting has been harmful to the children involved in this relatively short period of time, so I suppose to decide that it definitely is does suggest an element of homophobia. To say that it is akin to child abuse is bound to cause fireworks. No doubt he would have intended to be controversial when he said that, which I must repeat was said before he went into the BB house, and BB evidently knew about it, hence the question in the task.
But I think Winston was a very easy target who BB always intended to get rid of in week 1.
I don't share his feelings and I suppose I take the stance of John Partridge more than I do Angie, who is another one of these campaigners for gay rights speaking on behalf of gay people and overcompensating.
It's easy to condemn somebody for being homophobic, and in Winston's case there is enough to make you think that he probably is, but equally it can look worse when the people doing the condemning display even more bitter hatred.
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“Political Correctness. You mean the thing that allows people live there lives in peace. The concept that people should be able to have the same opportunities as everyone else. The idea that no one should made to feel uncomfortable about things they cannot control. Yes how 'mad'.
Some of the comments make me so sad.”
“Political Correctness. You mean the thing that allows people live there lives in peace. The concept that people should be able to have the same opportunities as everyone else. The idea that no one should made to feel uncomfortable about things they cannot control. Yes how 'mad'.
Some of the comments make me so sad.
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Originally Posted by HughOS:
“Empty vessels make the most noise, and these days that noise sounds like "PC gawnnn mad!11!!" What a pointless statement. What some are calling political correctness others would call basic human decency and manners.”
“Empty vessels make the most noise, and these days that noise sounds like "PC gawnnn mad!11!!" What a pointless statement. What some are calling political correctness others would call basic human decency and manners.”
I absolutely agree with both of you - well said.
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