Christians are not meant to have anything to do with politics either. So I've been told.
Booed because of his religious beliefs
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Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“His homophobic, harmful and downright nasty religious beliefs. Yes.
Also his 'pervy' attitude towards women. Which has nothing to do with religion.”
“His homophobic, harmful and downright nasty religious beliefs. Yes.
Also his 'pervy' attitude towards women. Which has nothing to do with religion.”
Well to be fair, that moral and righteous book the bible which justifies his views doesn't have a very nice attitude to women.
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“It's bigotry pure and simple
Christians pick and choose which parts of the bible they follow.”
“It's bigotry pure and simple
Christians pick and choose which parts of the bible they follow.”
Labelling billions of people under one banner? Nice.
Originally Posted by Styker:
“The abrahamic faiths forbid the sexual act of homosexuality and no mater what politicians do re the law on gay marriage, no one apart from god can change the rules of religion.
Just because some people do not practice every part of their religion for whatever reason does not mean that homosexuality is allowed under religious rules, its not in the abrahamic faiths. That doesn't make people biggoted, they are following their genuine belief in their established religion, not making things up as they go along.”
“The abrahamic faiths forbid the sexual act of homosexuality and no mater what politicians do re the law on gay marriage, no one apart from god can change the rules of religion.
Just because some people do not practice every part of their religion for whatever reason does not mean that homosexuality is allowed under religious rules, its not in the abrahamic faiths. That doesn't make people biggoted, they are following their genuine belief in their established religion, not making things up as they go along.”
You do know God didn't write the bible don't you
Originally Posted by Styker:
“No that's people choosing to change things in the way they see fit and that also isn't allowed in religion.”
“No that's people choosing to change things in the way they see fit and that also isn't allowed in religion.”
Hmm well the Bible is just people's interpretation of what God said so what is the difference between that and more modern interpretations of God now saying that Christianity allows Gay priests and Gay marriage.
Originally Posted by Big_Sinky:
“when are people going to read the proper meaning of this thread ........
if it was a muslim standing there, would BB have used his beliefs as part of a game”
“when are people going to read the proper meaning of this thread ........
if it was a muslim standing there, would BB have used his beliefs as part of a game”
When you read poster's response to that. I've already said that saying gay parents are akin to child abuse isn't Christian so yes if a Muslim HM was famous for shouting about their obnoxious slanted take on Islam then I am sure BB would relish showing them up for that too.
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Hmm well the Bible is just people's interpretation of what God said so what is the difference between that and more modern interpretations of God now saying that Christianity allows Gay priests and Gay marriage.
When you read poster's response to that. I've already said that saying gay parents are akin to child abuse isn't Christian so yes if a Muslim HM was famous for shouting about their obnoxious slanted take on Islam then I am sure BB would relish showing them up for that too.”
“Hmm well the Bible is just people's interpretation of what God said so what is the difference between that and more modern interpretations of God now saying that Christianity allows Gay priests and Gay marriage.
When you read poster's response to that. I've already said that saying gay parents are akin to child abuse isn't Christian so yes if a Muslim HM was famous for shouting about their obnoxious slanted take on Islam then I am sure BB would relish showing them up for that too.”
Abu Hamza would come out to boos.
i dont not agree with him at all however! i went to a christian school where the majority had these views becasue of the way they had been brought up. i would of saved Winston only because he needed being brother more he needed an education to change his homophobic views shouting and screaming at him aint gonna change anything it may make him keep quiet but he will still have homophobic thoughts. We do the same with racism making people scared mute. I really feel for him because if we had the same childhood teaching as him we would most likely have the same thoughts
Originally Posted by annemarie1066:
“You do know God didn't write the bible don't you”
“You do know God didn't write the bible don't you”
I don't think anyone is insinuating that God wrote the bible himself, quill in hand.
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“It's bigotry pure and simple
Christians pick and choose which parts of the bible they follow.”
“It's bigotry pure and simple
Christians pick and choose which parts of the bible they follow.”
And Muslims don't
Ask your Muslim politicians if they follow Islam, if they do they believe homosexuals should die along with non believers, but they won't admit to it.
Originally Posted by Big_Sinky:
“you're all missing the point, if a religious muslim was in the house, would big brother use one of their debatable beliefs as part of a game?”
“you're all missing the point, if a religious muslim was in the house, would big brother use one of their debatable beliefs as part of a game?”
Of course not.
Originally Posted by Styker:
“The abrahamic faiths forbid the sexual act of homosexuality and no mater what politicians do re the law on gay marriage, no one apart from god can change the rules of religion.
Just because some people do not practice every part of their religion for whatever reason does not mean that homosexuality is allowed under religious rules, its not in the abrahamic faiths. That doesn't make people biggoted, they are following their genuine belief in their established religion, not making things up as they go along.”
“The abrahamic faiths forbid the sexual act of homosexuality and no mater what politicians do re the law on gay marriage, no one apart from god can change the rules of religion.
Just because some people do not practice every part of their religion for whatever reason does not mean that homosexuality is allowed under religious rules, its not in the abrahamic faiths. That doesn't make people biggoted, they are following their genuine belief in their established religion, not making things up as they go along.”
The majority of faiths also teach that sex before marriage or outside of marriage is wrong. Yet very few get upset about heterosexual couples sleeping together without a wedding ring. How come they don't condemn these people as un-Christian or un-Godly? Surely these people are unfit to be parents as well seeing as they don't follow the religious teachings? A lot of religious people do pick and choose what to get upset about and seem to be obsessed on the issue of homosexuality.
Originally Posted by bbnutnut:
“The majority of faiths also teach that sex before marriage or outside of marriage is wrong. Yet very few get upset about heterosexual couples sleeping together without a wedding ring. How come they don't condemn these people as un-Christian or un-Godly? Surely these people are unfit to be parents as well seeing as they don't follow the religious teachings? A lot of religious people do pick and choose what to get upset about and seem to be obsessed on the issue of homosexuality.”
“The majority of faiths also teach that sex before marriage or outside of marriage is wrong. Yet very few get upset about heterosexual couples sleeping together without a wedding ring. How come they don't condemn these people as un-Christian or un-Godly? Surely these people are unfit to be parents as well seeing as they don't follow the religious teachings? A lot of religious people do pick and choose what to get upset about and seem to be obsessed on the issue of homosexuality.”
In my denomination, Catholicism, it is very frowned upon.
Originally Posted by bbnutnut:
“The majority of faiths also teach that sex before marriage or outside of marriage is wrong. Yet very few get upset about heterosexual couples sleeping together without a wedding ring. How come they don't condemn these people as un-Christian or un-Godly? Surely these people are unfit to be parents as well seeing as they don't follow the religious teachings? A lot of religious people do pick and choose what to get upset about and seem to be obsessed on the issue of homosexuality.”
“The majority of faiths also teach that sex before marriage or outside of marriage is wrong. Yet very few get upset about heterosexual couples sleeping together without a wedding ring. How come they don't condemn these people as un-Christian or un-Godly? Surely these people are unfit to be parents as well seeing as they don't follow the religious teachings? A lot of religious people do pick and choose what to get upset about and seem to be obsessed on the issue of homosexuality.”
Islam would but in any case no one has tried to get religion to change their rules on sex before marriage but politicians and non religious people are as good as trying to outcast people for their religious beliefs these days which won't work as the fear of god/the afterlife (if its hell) worries religious people much more than society.
Originally Posted by Wainy84:
“Christians are not meant to have anything to do with politics either. So I've been told.”
“Christians are not meant to have anything to do with politics either. So I've been told.
”
Tell that to the americans..
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Hmm well the Bible is just people's interpretation of what God said so what is the difference between that and more modern interpretations of God now saying that Christianity allows Gay priests and Gay marriage.
When you read poster's response to that. I've already said that saying gay parents are akin to child abuse isn't Christian so yes if a Muslim HM was famous for shouting about their obnoxious slanted take on Islam then I am sure BB would relish showing them up for that too.”
“Hmm well the Bible is just people's interpretation of what God said so what is the difference between that and more modern interpretations of God now saying that Christianity allows Gay priests and Gay marriage.
When you read poster's response to that. I've already said that saying gay parents are akin to child abuse isn't Christian so yes if a Muslim HM was famous for shouting about their obnoxious slanted take on Islam then I am sure BB would relish showing them up for that too.”
Oh right, so 3 of the biggest faiths compromising the best part of 3 Billion people have got it wrong then and just a few who CHOOSE to "change" what their faiths are the ones who are right? Nah.
Sick of outright nastiness being justified by religion it's not an excuse! Says a lot more about the religion you follow and about your lack of character if you're so sheepish tbh...
Originally Posted by annemarie1066:
“You do know God didn't write the bible don't you”
“You do know God didn't write the bible don't you”
God didn't write the qur'an either, but it was his orders which were told to the Prophet Muhammad by the Angel Gabriel over 23 years or so. Muhammad couldn't write either so he had to get his friends to write down what he had been told/instructed.
Originally Posted by Sonicmfc:
“Sick of outright nastiness being justified by religion it's not an excuse! Says a lot more about the religion you follow and about your lack of character if you're so sheepish tbh...”
“Sick of outright nastiness being justified by religion it's not an excuse! Says a lot more about the religion you follow and about your lack of character if you're so sheepish tbh...”
Ah, the classic 'religious people don't think for themselves and are sheeple' line.
Originally Posted by Zadeth:
“Ah, the classic 'religious people don't think for themselves and are sheeple' line.”
“Ah, the classic 'religious people don't think for themselves and are sheeple' line.
”
Classic because it's true.
Originally Posted by Sonicmfc:
“Sick of outright nastiness being justified by religion it's not an excuse! Says a lot more about the religion you follow and about your lack of character if you're so sheepish tbh...”
“Sick of outright nastiness being justified by religion it's not an excuse! Says a lot more about the religion you follow and about your lack of character if you're so sheepish tbh...”
Just because religions do not allow something, does not mean its a hate thing! Lots of things are not allowed in religion such as sex before mariage too, what hate crime is that then?!
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Hmm well the Bible is just people's interpretation of what God said so what is the difference between that and more modern interpretations of God now saying that Christianity allows Gay priests and Gay marriage.
When you read poster's response to that. I've already said that saying gay parents are akin to child abuse isn't Christian so yes if a Muslim HM was famous for shouting about their obnoxious slanted take on Islam then I am sure BB would relish showing them up for that too.”
“Hmm well the Bible is just people's interpretation of what God said so what is the difference between that and more modern interpretations of God now saying that Christianity allows Gay priests and Gay marriage.
When you read poster's response to that. I've already said that saying gay parents are akin to child abuse isn't Christian so yes if a Muslim HM was famous for shouting about their obnoxious slanted take on Islam then I am sure BB would relish showing them up for that too.”
No one can seriously believe that....
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Oh right, so 3 of the biggest faiths compromising the best part of 3 Billion people have got it wrong then and just a few who CHOOSE to "change" what their faiths are the ones who are right? Nah.”
“Oh right, so 3 of the biggest faiths compromising the best part of 3 Billion people have got it wrong then and just a few who CHOOSE to "change" what their faiths are the ones who are right? Nah.”
Eh
3 billion people just follow whatever they're told.
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Eh 3 billion people just follow whatever they're told.”
“Eh
3 billion people just follow whatever they're told.”
You pretty much said they've got it wrong on their interpretation of the sexual act of homsexuality being forbidden and i'm saying no way would that amount of people all be wrong and over centuries too.
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