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I don't like the guy never have done & I am glad he has gone. The voting Public should decide who should leave the house & no one else.
But Emma is totally wrong, his comment about Gays adopting children had nothing to do with what happened in the house, this was said last year during the General Election. Big Brother set Winston up last night with that impromptu task. This is why BB only paid Winston 60K because they knew he wouldn't last & he was just a patsy for ratings and nothing more. |
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I don't personally condone his views but I believe living in a democracy allows people to have a right to freedom of speech. You may be right that he was put in the house in part because of his comment but I think the very public vilification of the man was unfair.
My opinion... However, people often say they have freedom of speech but forget two fundamentals: 1. Hate speech is not as legal as it once was due to the Equality Act |
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He also had the opportunity to listen to other views and take them on board. He refused and remains close-minded relying upon some trite Christianity response
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I don't personally condone his views but I believe living in a democracy allows people to have a right to freedom of speech. You may be right that he was put in the house in part because of his comment but I think the very public vilification of the man was unfair.
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She did a great job.
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Next week she'll be interviewing Anjum Choudary about his homophobic views...oh wait, that might not be as easy as the shooting fish in a barrel Winston 'interview.'
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In society you will have people with such views, a lot of them exist. This liberal attempt to almost cleanse them of thinking these things doesn't work.
Winston will have only reinforced his views to himself if anything. |
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I don't personally condone his views but I believe living in a democracy allows people to have a right to freedom of speech. You may be right that he was put in the house in part because of his comment but I think the very public vilification of the man was unfair.
My opinion... Free speech works both ways. It doesn't mean you get to express your opinion and that's that. If you have the right to that opinion, people have the right to challenge and attack you for said opinion. |
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I was not impressed by her at all.
One of her worst attempts at interviewing, and she has had her fair share of bad ones. It really is time for her to go. A really unpleasant programme. |
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Freedom of speech only refers to him not being prosecuted for his comments legally which he won't be. Freedom of speech also entails the right for people to vilify him.
Free speech works both ways. It doesn't mean you get to express your opinion and that's that. If you have the right to that opinion, people have the right to challenge and attack you for said opinion. |
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Freedom of speech only refers to him not being prosecuted for his comments legally which he won't be. Freedom of speech also entails the right for people to vilify him.
Free speech works both ways. It doesn't mean you get to express your opinion and that's that. If you have the right to that opinion, people have the right to challenge and attack you for said opinion. |
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Exactly it amazes me when people say they support freedom of sppech then say people can't challenge someone on their views.
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Fair point and I don't disagree.
However, people often say they have freedom of speech but forget two fundamentals: 1. Hate speech is not as legal as it once was due to the Equality Act Other people are completely at liberty (democracy - freedom of speech) to air their opinions which are different to those being stated. I just feel the whole thing was a complete set-up to vilify a man for making comments outside of the house. It doesn't sit well with me (even though he is a complete twonk as you rightly state!! ).
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I don't think anyone has said he shouldn't be challenged on his views. The major point, as far as I'm concerned anyway, is the oppressive baiting and intimidation of one man both inside and outside the house on TV - no one deserves that level of oppression for their un PC views.
Views like this will probably die off slowly to the current views on racism in the next decade or two. |
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She's a joke picks and chooses who to give a hard time to
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Emma got right on my nerves, she was like a stuck record. I thought she was meant to be neutral anyway.
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Loling at everyone screaming 'He can have OPINION" whilst berating anyone who has an opinion against him.
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Freedom of speech only refers to him not being prosecuted for his comments legally which he won't be. Freedom of speech also entails the right for people to vilify him.
Free speech works both ways. It doesn't mean you get to express your opinion and that's that. If you have the right to that opinion, people have the right to challenge and attack you for said opinion. It's gone far beyond 'challenging other people's opinions' to a moral crusade attempting to eradicate any opinion that doesn't follow the designated leftist narrative I'll bet the majority of that baying crowd outside the house tonight were young girls who spend most of their lives glued to social media. Useful idiots used to push and perpetuate the media's chosen social agenda |
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I thought Emma's interview with Winston was atrocious. She was at him the whole time, trying to score points and make him look foolish, not giving him time to formulate an answer before going at him again. Very poor interviewing skills. She's ok talking with HMs about fluff and rubbish, but she's no Michael Parkinson, is she!
Rylan's interviiew, I thought, was bloody brilliant. He was calm, he asked pertinent questions, he didn't berate Winston, and allowed him to give his answers. |
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You don't seem to be taking into account the current social media hivemind where large groups of leftists band together to censor any opinions that oppose theirs while being dutifully backed up by the mainstream media since it is easy to control people when they aren't allowed to think for themselves
It's gone far beyond 'challenging other people's opinions' to a moral crusade attempting to eradicate any opinion that doesn't follow the designated leftist narrative I'll bet the majority of that baying crowd outside the house tonight were young girls who spend most of their lives glued to social media. Useful idiots used to push and perpetuate the media's chosen social agenda Freedom of speech = protection from the government prosecuting you for your expressed views. That's it. No more, no less. His freedom of speech has never been violated. The UK doesn't have freedom of speech anyways and hasn't for a while (see: hate speech laws enacted in 1986), if ever, so it's a moot point. |
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I wish she would go and never return to my TV.
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I thought Emma's interview with Winston was atrocious. She was at him the whole time, trying to score points and make him look foolish, not giving him time to formulate an answer before going at him again. Very poor interviewing skills. She's ok talking with HMs about fluff and rubbish, but she's no Michael Parkinson, is she!
Rylan's interviiew, I thought, was bloody brilliant. He was calm, he asked pertinent questions, he didn't berate Winston, and allowed him to give his answers.
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Originally Posted by dtorre;81019821[B
]You don't seem to be taking into account the current social media hivemind where large groups of leftists band together to censor any opinions that oppose theirs while being dutifully backed up by the mainstream media since it is easy to control people when they aren't allowed to think for themselves[/b]
It's gone far beyond 'challenging other people's opinions' to a moral crusade attempting to eradicate any opinion that doesn't follow the designated leftist narrative I'll bet the majority of that baying crowd outside the house tonight were young girls who spend most of their lives glued to social media. Useful idiots used to push and perpetuate the media's chosen social agenda
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I don't think anyone has said he shouldn't be challenged on his views. The major point, as far as I'm concerned anyway, is the oppressive baiting and intimidation of one man both inside and outside the house on TV - no one deserves that level of oppression for their un PC views.
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People that age just have those views on gay people. Even my dad, it is daft and no matter how much you talk to them about it, they will not change. That is my experience.
Views like this will probably die off slowly to the current views on racism in the next decade or two. |
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